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oh and here is the film making them victims being celibrated by Variety random thoughts Send a noteboard - 14/03/2011 11:10:00 PM
Oh and they spew rhetoric like it is going out style stomp their feet and cry when the other side uses it. The left needs to stop bitching about rhetoric or stop using it all the time. Do have any evidence that the congressman knew or supported what happened after he left or is it just slander?

Do you think he ha the right condemn events that feature open supporter of terrorism because you can put on stupid glasses and claim this woman was inciting murder but when hold up checks made put to Hamas and call suicide bomber martyrs it really isn’t that ambiguous what you mean. All the moderate Muslims we keep hearing about should be more offended by the speaker than the protesters because it is the actions of their fellow Muslims that are causing them the problems not the over reaction of a few protesters who hurled nothing but words, which is much better than how we would be treated in most Muslim countries

If you can re-word the first sentence of that second paragraph so it's comprehensible I'll try to respond to it. I have evidence that the Congressman accused the attendees of the fundraiser, as a group, of "destroying America". The evidence is tape of him saying they're destroying America, and that's evidence he supported the later verbal assaults on those he'd already accused of destroying America; if you can't follow that complex logical chain I'm not sure what more there is to say. If you STILL seek to justify violent inflammatory rhetoric, even from elected public servants and against their constituents, on your unsubstantiated belief that "well, our enemies are worse than us so it's OK" there's DEFINITELY no more to say.
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ignorance and hate in orange county, california moondog - 13/03/2011 07:05:33 AM 1614 Views
actually it wasnt at an Islamic Center, It was a city center rented out by muslims for the night Aisha - 13/03/2011 08:29:10 AM 1221 Views
since you are OK with judging all Tea Part memebers by the actions of a few random thoughts - 13/03/2011 01:03:42 PM 1076 Views
The problem with that is that Muslims aren't electing terrorists to city councils or Congress. Joel - 13/03/2011 08:13:38 PM 1022 Views
and you believe the Tea Party is electing terrorist to office? random thoughts - 14/03/2011 03:17:49 PM 1023 Views
"I know quite a few Marines who will be very happy to help these terrorists to paradise". Joel - 14/03/2011 07:17:02 PM 1064 Views
which terrorist was she talking about? You don't even have context just a propaganda video random thoughts - 14/03/2011 09:13:22 PM 1134 Views
That she directed it toward the whole event rather than specific people is the whole problem. Joel - 14/03/2011 09:53:29 PM 981 Views
really? you have unedited video of her doing that? random thoughts - 14/03/2011 11:01:57 PM 1104 Views
She said, "what's going on over there is PURE UNADULTERATED evil". Joel - 15/03/2011 12:21:16 AM 1069 Views
you sure seem to know alot about what she meant from just hearing two clips out of context random thoughts - 15/03/2011 02:47:44 PM 1020 Views
No, I'm just not being obtuse about her clear meaning because she's on "my side". Joel - 15/03/2011 08:39:21 PM 1063 Views
You could see where she was pointing? All I saw were flags random thoughts - 15/03/2011 08:45:02 PM 1056 Views
Ooooh, she was pointing out her fellow flag waving REPUBLICANS are terrorists. Joel - 15/03/2011 09:01:13 PM 1110 Views
and you know her well enough to know what she is saying random thoughts - 15/03/2011 09:37:16 PM 1269 Views
I know ENGLISH well enough to know what she's saying; you're the only who thinks WHO said it matters Joel - 15/03/2011 10:54:04 PM 1259 Views
I couldn't even finish watching that *NM* excalibur - 13/03/2011 11:29:34 AM 686 Views
Re: ignorance and hate in orange county, california dart_board - 13/03/2011 11:54:37 AM 1101 Views
I have to ask. Is this actually real? *NM* Dan - 13/03/2011 12:36:50 PM 514 Views
Somewhat Isaac - 13/03/2011 04:05:14 PM 1183 Views
While I can accept peoples' problems with the speakers... Tom - 13/03/2011 05:19:50 PM 1123 Views
Oh, agreed Isaac - 13/03/2011 06:37:43 PM 1109 Views
and then there are the biased idiots who only need a video of few people chanting random thoughts - 13/03/2011 01:02:07 PM 1232 Views
A very small number of people who happen to include elected leaders. Joel - 13/03/2011 08:42:37 PM 1148 Views
How many elected officals were there shouting at people as they entered the event? random thoughts - 14/03/2011 04:22:34 PM 1073 Views
Three, by my count. Joel - 14/03/2011 06:02:06 PM 1081 Views
yes but since you are just making it that doesn't really count random thoughts - 14/03/2011 06:30:24 PM 1098 Views
Folks on "my side" don't suggest US Marines murder people on yours; why does who tallies matter? Joel - 14/03/2011 07:25:12 PM 1081 Views
no folk on your side try to firebomb political conventions and then claim they are vicitims random thoughts - 14/03/2011 09:02:27 PM 945 Views
I'm aware of no such case, let alone people being elected to Congress for doing it. Joel - 14/03/2011 10:19:53 PM 1188 Views
if you have evidience he supported verbal assults you should post it random thoughts - 14/03/2011 11:03:19 PM 1051 Views
He MADE verbal assaults, and video of it was posted at the start of the thread. Joel - 15/03/2011 12:23:12 AM 1014 Views
why is it hard to grasp the "destrtoying America" is a common phrase used by boht sides random thoughts - 15/03/2011 02:53:29 PM 1148 Views
Yeah, but people shouldn't be paying their elected officials to (literally) subject them to it. Joel - 15/03/2011 08:39:05 PM 1089 Views
oh and here is the film making them victims being celibrated by Variety random thoughts - 14/03/2011 11:10:00 PM 1185 Views
Funny how they got ARRESTED instead of elected to public office. Joel - 15/03/2011 12:25:17 AM 1069 Views
and now the left is trying to tuen them into martyrs, which was my point. What was yours? random thoughts - 15/03/2011 02:57:04 PM 1069 Views
Doesn't seem like "the left" is trying to turn them into martyrs, let alone electing them to office. Joel - 15/03/2011 08:39:12 PM 1355 Views
the little piece of propeganda is likely to win SXSW film festival random thoughts - 15/03/2011 09:31:22 PM 1027 Views
Which proves many people find sensationalized violence entertaining, and that Austinites are idiots. Joel - 15/03/2011 10:52:19 PM 1170 Views
More than anything it seems like America is importing the "no good guys here" phenomenon. Joel - 13/03/2011 08:41:07 PM 1063 Views
Re: ignorance and hate in orange county, california alliandrina - 13/03/2011 10:05:40 PM 1037 Views
The Tea Party sponsored the event where people they elected said that stuff. Joel - 14/03/2011 07:42:29 PM 1239 Views
do you believe there is single group the Tea Party? random thoughts - 14/03/2011 09:03:10 PM 1059 Views
I believe a majority elected public officials encouraging violence against their own constituents. Joel - 14/03/2011 10:12:59 PM 1143 Views
I thought you needed proof before accussing someone of a crime random thoughts - 14/03/2011 11:04:05 PM 1120 Views
Whether or not this reaches the level of criminality is a good question. Joel - 15/03/2011 12:36:40 AM 1296 Views
yes but first you will have to prove she in inciting violience random thoughts - 15/03/2011 07:55:47 PM 1086 Views
She wants the Marines to assist US citizens to paradise; I think it's proven. Joel - 15/03/2011 08:39:29 PM 1015 Views
no Joel isn't proven and if you think it is you need to look up what the proof means random thoughts - 15/03/2011 09:36:32 PM 1026 Views
"Those terrorists" was a blanket statement directed at the people attending the fundraiser. Joel - 15/03/2011 10:52:51 PM 1208 Views
prove it random thoughts - 16/03/2011 01:12:55 AM 1187 Views
So we're back to "prove what you've already proven multiple times" again; fine, I'm done then. Joel - 16/03/2011 02:16:35 AM 1091 Views
Is it acceptable.... Jeordam - 14/03/2011 03:52:14 PM 1039 Views
Elected officials shouldn't suggest the US Marines murder US citizens. Joel - 14/03/2011 07:39:42 PM 1089 Views
I agree but do have an example of that happening or are you just twisiting what was said there? random thoughts - 14/03/2011 09:12:10 PM 1077 Views
Dude, I QUOTED an example in my above response to you. Joel - 14/03/2011 10:11:02 PM 1051 Views
You have one line tyaken out of context and even then you are spinning it random thoughts - 14/03/2011 11:04:38 PM 920 Views
No, just quoting it. Joel - 15/03/2011 12:42:31 AM 1026 Views
so you are just going to ignore the edit and belive what you want to believe random thoughts - 15/03/2011 02:58:36 PM 1062 Views
I believe what I saw and heard; why can't you? Joel - 15/03/2011 08:55:45 PM 1115 Views
you saw and herd a few sentences taken out of context random thoughts - 15/03/2011 09:29:55 PM 950 Views
You think that speech gets better if we listen to all of it? Joel - 15/03/2011 10:53:55 PM 1186 Views
no Joel you don't know Jack shit about what she said random thoughts - 16/03/2011 01:21:47 AM 1278 Views
She said what she said, whether or not you want to believe your eyes and ears. Joel - 16/03/2011 02:16:59 AM 968 Views
Simmer down Jeordam - 14/03/2011 09:50:05 PM 1096 Views
Well, if you aren't trying to equate them even the dubious "two wrongs make a right" defense fails. Joel - 14/03/2011 10:01:57 PM 1091 Views
Don't be foolish... Jeordam - 14/03/2011 10:13:44 PM 1014 Views
Re: Don't be foolish... Joel - 14/03/2011 10:38:18 PM 1008 Views
no different than using a quote out of context moondog - 14/03/2011 08:25:22 PM 1106 Views
Too clarify... Isaac - 14/03/2011 08:40:19 PM 1047 Views
Re: Too clarify... moondog - 15/03/2011 01:07:05 AM 1064 Views
Re: Too clarify... Isaac - 15/03/2011 02:31:06 AM 1061 Views
Notice..... Jeordam - 14/03/2011 09:55:00 PM 1011 Views
Re: Notice..... moondog - 15/03/2011 01:15:19 AM 1104 Views
Totally getting déjà vu of déjà vu from the thread here. *NM* Stephen - 14/03/2011 09:44:11 PM 478 Views
No kidding; at least no one got shot this time. Joel - 14/03/2011 10:44:07 PM 990 Views
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