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Which proves many people find sensationalized violence entertaining, and that Austinites are idiots. Joel Send a noteboard - 15/03/2011 10:52:19 PM
Neither of which is exactly breaking news. It doesn't prove "the left" is portraying these guys as martyrs by any stretch (isn't that evil lib Obama President of the country that arrested them)? Yeah, supporting political violence gets you arrested if you're a liberal and gets you elected if you're a conservative; it's EXACTLY the same. :rolleyes:
I guess you can claim that is liberal if it makes you fell better.

Why would it? I'm not the one who apparently feels obliged to defend even the most hateful violent rhetoric if it comes from a political ally. Calling SXSW liberal doesn't make it so, and even if it did, that too many people find violence morbidly entertaining wouldn't be an attempt to make anyone a martyr.
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ignorance and hate in orange county, california moondog - 13/03/2011 07:05:33 AM 1573 Views
actually it wasnt at an Islamic Center, It was a city center rented out by muslims for the night Aisha - 13/03/2011 08:29:10 AM 1166 Views
since you are OK with judging all Tea Part memebers by the actions of a few random thoughts - 13/03/2011 01:03:42 PM 1039 Views
The problem with that is that Muslims aren't electing terrorists to city councils or Congress. Joel - 13/03/2011 08:13:38 PM 973 Views
and you believe the Tea Party is electing terrorist to office? random thoughts - 14/03/2011 03:17:49 PM 977 Views
"I know quite a few Marines who will be very happy to help these terrorists to paradise". Joel - 14/03/2011 07:17:02 PM 1016 Views
which terrorist was she talking about? You don't even have context just a propaganda video random thoughts - 14/03/2011 09:13:22 PM 1095 Views
That she directed it toward the whole event rather than specific people is the whole problem. Joel - 14/03/2011 09:53:29 PM 928 Views
really? you have unedited video of her doing that? random thoughts - 14/03/2011 11:01:57 PM 1075 Views
She said, "what's going on over there is PURE UNADULTERATED evil". Joel - 15/03/2011 12:21:16 AM 1032 Views
you sure seem to know alot about what she meant from just hearing two clips out of context random thoughts - 15/03/2011 02:47:44 PM 984 Views
No, I'm just not being obtuse about her clear meaning because she's on "my side". Joel - 15/03/2011 08:39:21 PM 1018 Views
You could see where she was pointing? All I saw were flags random thoughts - 15/03/2011 08:45:02 PM 1008 Views
Ooooh, she was pointing out her fellow flag waving REPUBLICANS are terrorists. Joel - 15/03/2011 09:01:13 PM 1070 Views
and you know her well enough to know what she is saying random thoughts - 15/03/2011 09:37:16 PM 1227 Views
I know ENGLISH well enough to know what she's saying; you're the only who thinks WHO said it matters Joel - 15/03/2011 10:54:04 PM 1222 Views
I couldn't even finish watching that *NM* excalibur - 13/03/2011 11:29:34 AM 667 Views
Re: ignorance and hate in orange county, california dart_board - 13/03/2011 11:54:37 AM 1051 Views
I have to ask. Is this actually real? *NM* Dan - 13/03/2011 12:36:50 PM 498 Views
Somewhat Isaac - 13/03/2011 04:05:14 PM 1124 Views
While I can accept peoples' problems with the speakers... Tom - 13/03/2011 05:19:50 PM 1081 Views
Oh, agreed Isaac - 13/03/2011 06:37:43 PM 1073 Views
and then there are the biased idiots who only need a video of few people chanting random thoughts - 13/03/2011 01:02:07 PM 1197 Views
A very small number of people who happen to include elected leaders. Joel - 13/03/2011 08:42:37 PM 1098 Views
How many elected officals were there shouting at people as they entered the event? random thoughts - 14/03/2011 04:22:34 PM 1037 Views
Three, by my count. Joel - 14/03/2011 06:02:06 PM 1038 Views
yes but since you are just making it that doesn't really count random thoughts - 14/03/2011 06:30:24 PM 1055 Views
Folks on "my side" don't suggest US Marines murder people on yours; why does who tallies matter? Joel - 14/03/2011 07:25:12 PM 1044 Views
no folk on your side try to firebomb political conventions and then claim they are vicitims random thoughts - 14/03/2011 09:02:27 PM 895 Views
I'm aware of no such case, let alone people being elected to Congress for doing it. Joel - 14/03/2011 10:19:53 PM 1141 Views
if you have evidience he supported verbal assults you should post it random thoughts - 14/03/2011 11:03:19 PM 1015 Views
He MADE verbal assaults, and video of it was posted at the start of the thread. Joel - 15/03/2011 12:23:12 AM 972 Views
why is it hard to grasp the "destrtoying America" is a common phrase used by boht sides random thoughts - 15/03/2011 02:53:29 PM 1118 Views
Yeah, but people shouldn't be paying their elected officials to (literally) subject them to it. Joel - 15/03/2011 08:39:05 PM 1050 Views
oh and here is the film making them victims being celibrated by Variety random thoughts - 14/03/2011 11:10:00 PM 1139 Views
Funny how they got ARRESTED instead of elected to public office. Joel - 15/03/2011 12:25:17 AM 1036 Views
and now the left is trying to tuen them into martyrs, which was my point. What was yours? random thoughts - 15/03/2011 02:57:04 PM 1038 Views
Doesn't seem like "the left" is trying to turn them into martyrs, let alone electing them to office. Joel - 15/03/2011 08:39:12 PM 1315 Views
the little piece of propeganda is likely to win SXSW film festival random thoughts - 15/03/2011 09:31:22 PM 984 Views
Which proves many people find sensationalized violence entertaining, and that Austinites are idiots. Joel - 15/03/2011 10:52:19 PM 1129 Views
More than anything it seems like America is importing the "no good guys here" phenomenon. Joel - 13/03/2011 08:41:07 PM 1012 Views
Re: ignorance and hate in orange county, california alliandrina - 13/03/2011 10:05:40 PM 998 Views
The Tea Party sponsored the event where people they elected said that stuff. Joel - 14/03/2011 07:42:29 PM 1194 Views
do you believe there is single group the Tea Party? random thoughts - 14/03/2011 09:03:10 PM 1024 Views
I believe a majority elected public officials encouraging violence against their own constituents. Joel - 14/03/2011 10:12:59 PM 1108 Views
I thought you needed proof before accussing someone of a crime random thoughts - 14/03/2011 11:04:05 PM 1092 Views
Whether or not this reaches the level of criminality is a good question. Joel - 15/03/2011 12:36:40 AM 1261 Views
yes but first you will have to prove she in inciting violience random thoughts - 15/03/2011 07:55:47 PM 1036 Views
She wants the Marines to assist US citizens to paradise; I think it's proven. Joel - 15/03/2011 08:39:29 PM 966 Views
no Joel isn't proven and if you think it is you need to look up what the proof means random thoughts - 15/03/2011 09:36:32 PM 980 Views
"Those terrorists" was a blanket statement directed at the people attending the fundraiser. Joel - 15/03/2011 10:52:51 PM 1170 Views
prove it random thoughts - 16/03/2011 01:12:55 AM 1139 Views
So we're back to "prove what you've already proven multiple times" again; fine, I'm done then. Joel - 16/03/2011 02:16:35 AM 1052 Views
Is it acceptable.... Jeordam - 14/03/2011 03:52:14 PM 983 Views
Elected officials shouldn't suggest the US Marines murder US citizens. Joel - 14/03/2011 07:39:42 PM 1054 Views
I agree but do have an example of that happening or are you just twisiting what was said there? random thoughts - 14/03/2011 09:12:10 PM 1033 Views
Dude, I QUOTED an example in my above response to you. Joel - 14/03/2011 10:11:02 PM 1010 Views
You have one line tyaken out of context and even then you are spinning it random thoughts - 14/03/2011 11:04:38 PM 888 Views
No, just quoting it. Joel - 15/03/2011 12:42:31 AM 986 Views
so you are just going to ignore the edit and belive what you want to believe random thoughts - 15/03/2011 02:58:36 PM 1017 Views
I believe what I saw and heard; why can't you? Joel - 15/03/2011 08:55:45 PM 1066 Views
you saw and herd a few sentences taken out of context random thoughts - 15/03/2011 09:29:55 PM 907 Views
You think that speech gets better if we listen to all of it? Joel - 15/03/2011 10:53:55 PM 1145 Views
no Joel you don't know Jack shit about what she said random thoughts - 16/03/2011 01:21:47 AM 1232 Views
She said what she said, whether or not you want to believe your eyes and ears. Joel - 16/03/2011 02:16:59 AM 929 Views
Simmer down Jeordam - 14/03/2011 09:50:05 PM 1049 Views
Well, if you aren't trying to equate them even the dubious "two wrongs make a right" defense fails. Joel - 14/03/2011 10:01:57 PM 1048 Views
Don't be foolish... Jeordam - 14/03/2011 10:13:44 PM 975 Views
Re: Don't be foolish... Joel - 14/03/2011 10:38:18 PM 963 Views
no different than using a quote out of context moondog - 14/03/2011 08:25:22 PM 1066 Views
Too clarify... Isaac - 14/03/2011 08:40:19 PM 1010 Views
Re: Too clarify... moondog - 15/03/2011 01:07:05 AM 1023 Views
Re: Too clarify... Isaac - 15/03/2011 02:31:06 AM 1027 Views
Notice..... Jeordam - 14/03/2011 09:55:00 PM 979 Views
Re: Notice..... moondog - 15/03/2011 01:15:19 AM 1062 Views
Totally getting déjà vu of déjà vu from the thread here. *NM* Stephen - 14/03/2011 09:44:11 PM 461 Views
No kidding; at least no one got shot this time. Joel - 14/03/2011 10:44:07 PM 951 Views
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