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It's the same standard, whatever you choose to believe. Joel Send a noteboard - 16/03/2011 09:08:01 PM
We have more context for the global warming guy than Rush. Now to be fair Rush is very likely putting the very worst spin he can come up with on this guys words. You two are kind of reverse polarity Twinkies in that regard. But I would like to know what "signs" the guy is talking about and the way he worded it does seem to imply that Mother Nature (notice the caps) was somehow involved.

He stated the signs he was talking about so you don't have to guess. Maybe I'm being too verbose and hard to follow again; snoop makes exactly the same point in response to Isaac, but as usual does it far more concisely. The other PARAGRAPHS in the mans statement clarify the single SENTENCE that would otherwise be so ambiguous as to be meaningless. Limbaughs comments are unambiguous; do you have or just really want to believe in a statement by him that changes that? Note that I'm not begging the question, because I'm referring to something we all know he said clearly.
Of course we could have just waited to have this whole discussion until someone blamed gays. I am really shocked that it hasn't happened yet.

Give Pat Robertson time. ;) Just don't complain around the Tea Party if he blames gays, or you might be shocked to learn you're a Muslim/terrorist. :rolleyes:
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So, how many drugs is Rush Limbaugh actually on? Camilla - 16/03/2011 08:30:25 AM 960 Views
Possibly different ones then the EESC president Isaac - 16/03/2011 03:58:41 PM 901 Views
No one's blaming the earthquake or tsunami on global warming. Joel - 16/03/2011 04:22:52 PM 669 Views
Actually people have Isaac - 16/03/2011 04:31:37 PM 822 Views
Which people? Where? Example? Joel - 16/03/2011 06:48:10 PM 849 Views
Tsunami and climate change Knightscape - 17/03/2011 11:59:36 PM 899 Views
"Speakers were careful to point out that many findings still amounted only to hypotheses" Joel - 18/03/2011 01:31:44 PM 814 Views
Re: No one's blaming the earthquake or tsunami on global warming. dart_board - 18/03/2011 12:25:01 PM 843 Views
Republican spin doctor Frank Luntz popularized "climate change" to make global warming appealing. Joel - 18/03/2011 01:56:01 PM 747 Views
A slightly misleading post snoopcester - 16/03/2011 07:41:46 PM 766 Views
Surprised? *NM* Camilla - 16/03/2011 08:59:35 PM 326 Views
Not completely. *NM* snoopcester - 16/03/2011 09:13:48 PM 308 Views
Kind of missed the point there Isaac - 16/03/2011 09:54:35 PM 773 Views
If you link the transcript I'll look at it. Joel - 16/03/2011 10:16:21 PM 640 Views
Re: If you link the transcript I'll look at it. Isaac - 16/03/2011 10:44:56 PM 775 Views
" I can't help attaching, you know, political reaction to this". Yeah, we noticed.... Joel - 16/03/2011 11:10:11 PM 787 Views
Re: " I can't help attaching, you know, political reaction to this". Yeah, we noticed.... Isaac - 16/03/2011 11:42:29 PM 612 Views
Fair enough. Joel - 17/03/2011 12:08:13 AM 716 Views
Re: Fair enough. Isaac - 17/03/2011 12:37:12 AM 695 Views
No worries. Joel - 17/03/2011 12:48:44 AM 954 Views
I've read the transcript snoopcester - 16/03/2011 10:34:41 PM 789 Views
Re: I've read the transcript Isaac - 16/03/2011 10:46:42 PM 690 Views
You need to reread what I said snoopcester - 16/03/2011 10:49:45 PM 658 Views
No, I think you're still missing my point Isaac - 16/03/2011 11:09:04 PM 736 Views
Perhaps snoopcester - 16/03/2011 11:26:37 PM 800 Views
Okay, I'm done Isaac - 16/03/2011 11:37:58 PM 686 Views
Seriously, you need to pick a better example to make your point Helene - 18/03/2011 05:00:10 PM 663 Views
No. You don't get to say, "what he said doesn't matter because of how we learned of it". Joel - 16/03/2011 11:54:46 PM 718 Views
I told you, I'm done in this thread Isaac - 16/03/2011 11:59:08 PM 651 Views
Acknowledged (though I'd not seen that response yet, sorry). Joel - 17/03/2011 12:11:58 AM 708 Views
I think Republicans should stop using "legitimate". I do not think it means what they think it means Joel - 16/03/2011 04:11:14 PM 812 Views
there are enough carzies on the left to make things like this easy for Rush random thoughts - 16/03/2011 04:20:47 PM 733 Views
So it doesn't matter that no one said it as long as he can plausibly claim they did. Joel - 16/03/2011 06:58:17 PM 656 Views
well since it is taken out of context it is hard to say where Rush was going with it random thoughts - 16/03/2011 07:19:46 PM 753 Views
Um... he stated where he was going with it. Joel - 16/03/2011 07:30:02 PM 720 Views
At least you are not ashamed to use a double standard random thoughts - 16/03/2011 08:17:39 PM 666 Views
It's the same standard, whatever you choose to believe. Joel - 16/03/2011 09:08:01 PM 786 Views
I don't thinkit is as clear as you make it out to be random thoughts - 16/03/2011 09:31:53 PM 682 Views
It is not just "possible" he's talking about islands affected by global warming; he says it outright Joel - 16/03/2011 10:09:16 PM 856 Views
Sorry but I still fail to see how the islands he mention are a sign of what needs to be done random thoughts - 16/03/2011 10:27:20 PM 721 Views
Hey, guys! Isaac - 16/03/2011 10:55:07 PM 614 Views
and how its that different than what I said? *NM* random thoughts - 16/03/2011 11:14:46 PM 279 Views
Then you don't understand context and this whole discussion is pointless. Joel - 16/03/2011 11:28:47 PM 796 Views
lets throw a little context at asnd see if it matters random thoughts - 17/03/2011 12:12:03 AM 682 Views
Yes: It makes it worse. Joel - 17/03/2011 12:45:12 AM 685 Views
no it shows that the one statements was not meant to be taken literally random thoughts - 17/03/2011 02:47:55 AM 712 Views
At best, it shows he was joking about something he believes to be fact despite lacking evidence. Joel - 18/03/2011 02:24:45 PM 790 Views
so you finally agre that the context changes the meaning, took you long enough random thoughts - 18/03/2011 02:33:41 PM 663 Views
Re: At least you are not ashamed to use a double standard Camilla - 16/03/2011 09:22:37 PM 802 Views
maybe he heard that they were blaming it on Pearl Harbor *NM* random thoughts - 16/03/2011 10:14:59 PM 284 Views
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