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Hey, guys! Isaac Send a noteboard - 16/03/2011 10:55:07 PM
Since I see my name's in just about all your posts back and forth, let me clarify, the EESC's comments and Rush's are totally unrelated, IIRC the EESC thing took place well after. I presented the EESC statement because it stuck in my head as a recent and partially related example of how context is a big factor and that that that particularly statement - which I still think was pretty inappropriate - reads a good deal different - IMO - in its entirety then in the way it is going around, but when it is shown in its entirety to people who have already got the soundbite stuck in their heads, their opinions don't noticeably change. Rush is not talking about the EESC guy.

I am, and was, strictly trying to make a point about taking things out of context and also reminding people that neither side's pundits usually have to look far to find crazies who can then be pointed to, with varying degrees of accuracy, as somehow spokesman for the whole group.
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So, how many drugs is Rush Limbaugh actually on? - 16/03/2011 08:30:25 AM 960 Views
Possibly different ones then the EESC president - 16/03/2011 03:58:41 PM 901 Views
No one's blaming the earthquake or tsunami on global warming. - 16/03/2011 04:22:52 PM 669 Views
Actually people have - 16/03/2011 04:31:37 PM 824 Views
Which people? Where? Example? - 16/03/2011 06:48:10 PM 849 Views
Tsunami and climate change - 17/03/2011 11:59:36 PM 901 Views
A slightly misleading post - 16/03/2011 07:41:46 PM 766 Views
Surprised? *NM* - 16/03/2011 08:59:35 PM 326 Views
Not completely. *NM* - 16/03/2011 09:13:48 PM 308 Views
Kind of missed the point there - 16/03/2011 09:54:35 PM 774 Views
If you link the transcript I'll look at it. - 16/03/2011 10:16:21 PM 642 Views
Re: If you link the transcript I'll look at it. - 16/03/2011 10:44:56 PM 775 Views
" I can't help attaching, you know, political reaction to this". Yeah, we noticed.... - 16/03/2011 11:10:11 PM 787 Views
Re: " I can't help attaching, you know, political reaction to this". Yeah, we noticed.... - 16/03/2011 11:42:29 PM 614 Views
Fair enough. - 17/03/2011 12:08:13 AM 716 Views
Re: Fair enough. - 17/03/2011 12:37:12 AM 697 Views
No worries. - 17/03/2011 12:48:44 AM 954 Views
I've read the transcript - 16/03/2011 10:34:41 PM 791 Views
Re: I've read the transcript - 16/03/2011 10:46:42 PM 690 Views
You need to reread what I said - 16/03/2011 10:49:45 PM 658 Views
No, I think you're still missing my point - 16/03/2011 11:09:04 PM 738 Views
Perhaps - 16/03/2011 11:26:37 PM 800 Views
Okay, I'm done - 16/03/2011 11:37:58 PM 686 Views
Seriously, you need to pick a better example to make your point - 18/03/2011 05:00:10 PM 663 Views
No. You don't get to say, "what he said doesn't matter because of how we learned of it". - 16/03/2011 11:54:46 PM 718 Views
I told you, I'm done in this thread - 16/03/2011 11:59:08 PM 651 Views
Acknowledged (though I'd not seen that response yet, sorry). - 17/03/2011 12:11:58 AM 708 Views
I think Republicans should stop using "legitimate". I do not think it means what they think it means - 16/03/2011 04:11:14 PM 814 Views
there are enough carzies on the left to make things like this easy for Rush - 16/03/2011 04:20:47 PM 735 Views
So it doesn't matter that no one said it as long as he can plausibly claim they did. - 16/03/2011 06:58:17 PM 656 Views
well since it is taken out of context it is hard to say where Rush was going with it - 16/03/2011 07:19:46 PM 753 Views
Um... he stated where he was going with it. - 16/03/2011 07:30:02 PM 722 Views
At least you are not ashamed to use a double standard - 16/03/2011 08:17:39 PM 666 Views
It's the same standard, whatever you choose to believe. - 16/03/2011 09:08:01 PM 787 Views
I don't thinkit is as clear as you make it out to be - 16/03/2011 09:31:53 PM 684 Views
It is not just "possible" he's talking about islands affected by global warming; he says it outright - 16/03/2011 10:09:16 PM 856 Views
Sorry but I still fail to see how the islands he mention are a sign of what needs to be done - 16/03/2011 10:27:20 PM 723 Views
Hey, guys! - 16/03/2011 10:55:07 PM 615 Views
and how its that different than what I said? *NM* - 16/03/2011 11:14:46 PM 279 Views
Then you don't understand context and this whole discussion is pointless. - 16/03/2011 11:28:47 PM 796 Views
lets throw a little context at asnd see if it matters - 17/03/2011 12:12:03 AM 684 Views
Yes: It makes it worse. - 17/03/2011 12:45:12 AM 685 Views
Re: At least you are not ashamed to use a double standard - 16/03/2011 09:22:37 PM 802 Views
maybe he heard that they were blaming it on Pearl Harbor *NM* - 16/03/2011 10:14:59 PM 284 Views

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