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I don't think the people in Libya give at rat's ass about what the king of Qatar wants random thoughts Send a noteboard - 21/03/2011 05:12:26 AM
People are dying so I think when you talk delay just for window dressing I have to roll my eyes. If it is worth doing then it is worth do immediately. Having Qatar make a show of being part of this is not to impress people of the Arab world it is for the West. How many people in the Muslim world are going to have their opinion changed because some hereditary dictator with a lot of US military in his country played along? I think it will makes as much difference as the illusion that the US is only playing a supporting role simply because our Commander In Chief is out glad handing in South America. It might look good for CNN but it ignores the fact that we shot over a 100 missiles into Libya. I haven't had a chance to see what the break up was but my impression is that it was mostly tomahawks missiles we were shooting, that is a lot firepower and a lot of money.

If it could have been a large coalition of Muslims states then it might make sense but with most of them are under threat of similar uprising so that isn't likely. To be honest though I assume no matter how it ends it will become another reason for people to hate America. I think history shows that expecting gratitude is naive. Look at how much gratitude we get from Europe for stopping the USSR from overrunning them and helping build back their nations after the last time they blew up the world. The deck of public opinion has been stacked for some time now so the only sane course is to say screw public opinion and just do what needs to be done.
This message last edited by random thoughts on 21/03/2011 at 05:13:11 AM
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So within 24 hours of the 1st UN mandated action in Libya... - 20/03/2011 04:38:25 PM 1736 Views
Quite. - 20/03/2011 04:41:39 PM 913 Views
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... completely surprising absolutely no one. *NM* - 20/03/2011 05:28:20 PM 412 Views
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Re: I think we should just ignore anything Russia and China says about human rights.. - 20/03/2011 11:12:11 PM 998 Views
exactly - 21/03/2011 12:13:28 AM 893 Views
Re: So within 24 hours of the 1st UN mandated action in Libya... - 20/03/2011 05:31:48 PM 1076 Views
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And - 20/03/2011 05:52:59 PM 939 Views
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The impression I got - 21/03/2011 04:14:57 PM 1122 Views
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I have to ask: - 21/03/2011 03:13:31 AM 1113 Views
I don't think the people in Libya give at rat's ass about what the king of Qatar wants - 21/03/2011 05:12:26 AM 1072 Views
Imo, it's not about "gratitude." - 21/03/2011 04:05:41 PM 974 Views
I actaully like NPR and listen to them on a regular basis - 21/03/2011 04:44:42 PM 1015 Views
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There's been plenty on Twitter. - 22/03/2011 08:29:48 AM 1118 Views
So let me get this straight: - 22/03/2011 06:48:53 PM 1044 Views
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Yeah, that's what I meant. - 21/03/2011 12:48:57 AM 927 Views
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Fuck that - 21/03/2011 12:47:54 AM 1012 Views
you are always have been a fence sitter - 21/03/2011 01:09:59 AM 925 Views
Fuck Gadhafi. - 21/03/2011 05:21:29 AM 854 Views
how full of yourself are you? - 21/03/2011 12:37:47 PM 1046 Views
They're not my people. - 21/03/2011 02:22:46 PM 983 Views
Wha? - 21/03/2011 03:55:51 PM 1027 Views
Nope. - 21/03/2011 04:21:21 PM 1022 Views
Ok. - 21/03/2011 04:30:44 PM 975 Views
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I completely agree. *NM* - 21/03/2011 11:04:34 PM 309 Views
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Don't me!! - 21/03/2011 11:50:07 PM 917 Views

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