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a large percentage of poor are children random thoughts Send a noteboard - 28/03/2011 03:14:16 PM
Some of the poor are poor because of bad life choices it is true but being born poor dramatically increases the odds that you will make poor life choices. I was born poor but was lucky enough to have a parent who pulled herself out of poverty. I was the second person on my mother’s side of the family to even graduate from high school and it is a big family. We were very poor when I was young but things got a lot better for us in the early 70’s. I have seen what poverty does and how hard it is to overcome poverty. In most cases it takes generations. In my mother’s generation almost no one was educated. In mine just a few of us managed to finish high school and no one completed a full bachelors’ degree. In my kids generation all of my mother’s grandchildren have finished high school and most of them have gone on to get some college with the oldest graduating this May with BA. Of course not all branches of the family have been so successful and my mother’s siblings who remained poor have grand children and great grandchildren being raised in poverty.

It is hard to understand how deep the affects of poverty go without first hand experience. Poverty isn’t just about being poor it affects the way you see the world and not normally in a positive way. Yes hard work can get sometimes get you of poverty but I have known too many hard working poor people to believe that is all it takes. Poverty can be overcome but it is very hard and I don’t think it is fair to act like it is a simple choice or a result of laziness. Most poor people were born that way. When most of the poor are children I think it is really hard to call it the results of their actions.
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This Is Why I Like Dogs So Much More Than I Like People (Animal Rescue Workers: I LOVE You!) - 27/03/2011 03:20:40 PM 1656 Views
Louisiana has a bit more on its plate than adorable animals. - 27/03/2011 06:14:01 PM 964 Views
No doubt, and I respect that; it's tightening the budget by killing animals that bothers me. - 27/03/2011 06:37:17 PM 1133 Views
Feral dogs are dangerous and destructive. It's not really an option. - 27/03/2011 06:48:06 PM 792 Views
I don't know that they are, at least, not any more so than feral cats or feral teens. - 28/03/2011 04:27:44 PM 748 Views
how many people are mauled by house cats? - 28/03/2011 04:57:32 PM 699 Views
Me, for one; I don't have complete stats on everyone though. - 28/03/2011 05:06:57 PM 871 Views
How many stiches did it take to fix it? - 28/03/2011 06:42:31 PM 870 Views
It is animal control not planned parenthood for dogs - 28/03/2011 03:13:02 AM 835 Views
Interesting how that comparison keeps being made.... - 28/03/2011 04:26:38 PM 843 Views
Yes, it is easier to kill animals than have them roaming the streets. - 28/03/2011 09:36:31 PM 945 Views
I can at least respect the honesty of that. - 31/03/2011 11:43:02 PM 845 Views
I made myself a promise. - 27/03/2011 11:28:02 PM 734 Views
I'm fairly upfront about my opinion of the value of human life vs. animal life, yes. - 27/03/2011 11:51:07 PM 904 Views
Well, we differ on this, certainly. - 28/03/2011 05:14:44 AM 945 Views
how very 1960 of you - 28/03/2011 02:15:11 PM 783 Views
Ok... trying to do something about no longer being poor is a choice, though. - 28/03/2011 02:37:15 PM 769 Views
a large percentage of poor are children - 28/03/2011 03:14:16 PM 817 Views
To answer... - 29/03/2011 04:09:33 AM 785 Views
This is an interesting subthread to observe.... - 28/03/2011 04:52:04 PM 832 Views
You succeeded. - 28/03/2011 08:44:30 PM 836 Views
Undoubtedly. - 29/03/2011 04:12:12 AM 762 Views
You also have to consider pack animal behaviour. - 27/03/2011 06:45:14 PM 915 Views
It's ironic that I read this after I wrote that above. - 27/03/2011 11:30:06 PM 976 Views
don't forget all the wildlife they kill *NM* - 28/03/2011 03:17:02 AM 407 Views
Wildlife kills a lot of wildlife; "it's the ciiiiircle of life". - 28/03/2011 04:59:27 PM 844 Views
and like a market economy that works great until you start subsidizing one side - 28/03/2011 05:15:32 PM 851 Views
A dog that can make a deer run will hunt it. - 31/03/2011 11:32:24 PM 1020 Views
I've lived in a lot of cities and around a lot of dogs but never seen a feral dog pack. - 28/03/2011 04:28:32 PM 872 Views
Are you serious? - 28/03/2011 08:48:54 PM 702 Views
There are a few things wrong with that. - 31/03/2011 11:11:27 PM 754 Views
I'm planning on volunteering at a no-kill shelter in NJ when I go. - 27/03/2011 11:31:02 PM 841 Views
Sweet, and the prospect of volunteers at no kill shelters changes the economics greatly. *hugs* - 28/03/2011 04:26:29 PM 924 Views
I'm trying to spend that time on "me" stuff. - 29/03/2011 04:13:54 AM 765 Views
Probably wise; good luck and God bless with that. - 01/04/2011 12:27:09 AM 933 Views
It is sad but what can you do? - 28/03/2011 03:05:40 AM 860 Views
I'm not sure how this would be helpful? - 28/03/2011 06:04:26 PM 752 Views
I don't think it is wrong to neuter a dog for behavior reasons - 28/03/2011 06:35:16 PM 831 Views
I was with you until... - 28/03/2011 09:09:14 PM 745 Views
I said it was the cynical side of me not the rational side - 28/03/2011 09:31:22 PM 870 Views
Liberals are bigger fans of animal control than conservatives? - 28/03/2011 09:49:35 PM 681 Views
If you could only choose one, it would be better to choose the female. - 28/03/2011 10:03:44 PM 725 Views
WHY??? *NM* - 28/03/2011 10:08:30 PM 349 Views
Wait, no, you're right. - 28/03/2011 10:13:58 PM 760 Views
no no you were right - 29/03/2011 02:18:44 AM 755 Views
Ah, yeah. I was assuming 100% sterilization, which is unfeasible. Never mind. *NM* - 29/03/2011 03:16:22 AM 355 Views
Ghavrel, nooooooooo! Give reason and ethics a chance first! - 29/03/2011 03:27:29 AM 959 Views
I already said it makes sense to do both. I definitely support neutering! - 29/03/2011 04:01:09 AM 961 Views
Do you know what else is absurd? - 29/03/2011 04:09:37 AM 725 Views
A clown reading Camus? *NM* - 29/03/2011 05:31:21 AM 332 Views
that would be absurd, glad I never even suggested it *NM* - 29/03/2011 02:13:39 PM 355 Views
I think you just made my point - 29/03/2011 02:16:19 AM 796 Views
Eh forget it. Not worth my time. *NM* - 29/03/2011 03:10:03 AM 827 Views
proably true. I should know better than to fight faith with reason - 29/03/2011 03:15:49 AM 860 Views
I'm not here to debate doggie sex *NM* - 29/03/2011 03:15:56 AM 714 Views
that is good because from what I can tell the subject escapes you - 29/03/2011 02:34:37 PM 788 Views
Considering that it's much harder to fix females than males - 28/03/2011 10:07:47 PM 795 Views
how hard it is makes zero differience - 29/03/2011 02:25:17 AM 781 Views
I think that last bit was uncalled for. *NM* - 29/03/2011 04:15:44 AM 322 Views
not at all - 29/03/2011 01:23:03 PM 786 Views
For the uneducated of us (i.e. me) - 28/03/2011 09:40:07 PM 808 Views
Vasectomy: sterile but will still want to mate. Neutered: no mating behavior at all. *NM* - 28/03/2011 09:56:41 PM 373 Views
Someone needs to sit my dog down and explain this to him. - 28/03/2011 09:59:25 PM 731 Views
you probably had him cut to late - 29/03/2011 02:27:49 AM 779 Views

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