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I don't think it is wrong to neuter a dog for behavior reasons random thoughts Send a noteboard - 28/03/2011 06:35:16 PM
When a female comes into heat and she is not confined she will find a fully male dog to mate with. If all of the fully male dogs are fertile and she is fertile the odds are she will become pregnant. If most male dogs get vasectomies instead of neutered then there is a good chance the male dogs she is mating with are going to infertile and she will not become pregnant. Neutring only takes the male out of the gene pool but males don't have babies so unless you get all of them the population is not affected. A few decades ago they released hundreds of millions of flies that had been chemically sterilized near San Antonio. Many of those flies bred with intact flies and two weeks later there were a lot less flies since every sterilized fly that mated with an intact effectively took that other fly out of the gene pool.


Most shelters require you to neuter a male dog or cat if you adopt one from there and the argument is that it is to control population. It seems pretty obvious that a better method is available if population control was the true goal. I object to them placing the moral weight of population control behind their insistence when it really has very little to do with population control. Why even insist on it to begin with if is only for behavior modification? If behavior is the goal why not require training? The cynical side of me suspects it is simply because it would offend the gender equality mindset that so many people hold. Now it has become a matter of faith and it doesn't matter if it actaully works.

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This Is Why I Like Dogs So Much More Than I Like People (Animal Rescue Workers: I LOVE You!) - 27/03/2011 03:20:40 PM 1751 Views
Louisiana has a bit more on its plate than adorable animals. - 27/03/2011 06:14:01 PM 1056 Views
No doubt, and I respect that; it's tightening the budget by killing animals that bothers me. - 27/03/2011 06:37:17 PM 1223 Views
Feral dogs are dangerous and destructive. It's not really an option. - 27/03/2011 06:48:06 PM 913 Views
I don't know that they are, at least, not any more so than feral cats or feral teens. - 28/03/2011 04:27:44 PM 864 Views
how many people are mauled by house cats? - 28/03/2011 04:57:32 PM 814 Views
Me, for one; I don't have complete stats on everyone though. - 28/03/2011 05:06:57 PM 964 Views
How many stiches did it take to fix it? - 28/03/2011 06:42:31 PM 958 Views
It is animal control not planned parenthood for dogs - 28/03/2011 03:13:02 AM 923 Views
Interesting how that comparison keeps being made.... - 28/03/2011 04:26:38 PM 931 Views
Yes, it is easier to kill animals than have them roaming the streets. - 28/03/2011 09:36:31 PM 1059 Views
I can at least respect the honesty of that. - 31/03/2011 11:43:02 PM 940 Views
I made myself a promise. - 27/03/2011 11:28:02 PM 823 Views
I'm fairly upfront about my opinion of the value of human life vs. animal life, yes. - 27/03/2011 11:51:07 PM 1014 Views
Well, we differ on this, certainly. - 28/03/2011 05:14:44 AM 1065 Views
how very 1960 of you - 28/03/2011 02:15:11 PM 863 Views
To answer... - 29/03/2011 04:09:33 AM 879 Views
This is an interesting subthread to observe.... - 28/03/2011 04:52:04 PM 932 Views
You succeeded. - 28/03/2011 08:44:30 PM 935 Views
Undoubtedly. - 29/03/2011 04:12:12 AM 880 Views
You also have to consider pack animal behaviour. - 27/03/2011 06:45:14 PM 1006 Views
It's ironic that I read this after I wrote that above. - 27/03/2011 11:30:06 PM 1058 Views
don't forget all the wildlife they kill *NM* - 28/03/2011 03:17:02 AM 449 Views
Wildlife kills a lot of wildlife; "it's the ciiiiircle of life". - 28/03/2011 04:59:27 PM 929 Views
and like a market economy that works great until you start subsidizing one side - 28/03/2011 05:15:32 PM 939 Views
A dog that can make a deer run will hunt it. - 31/03/2011 11:32:24 PM 1100 Views
I've lived in a lot of cities and around a lot of dogs but never seen a feral dog pack. - 28/03/2011 04:28:32 PM 1024 Views
Are you serious? - 28/03/2011 08:48:54 PM 792 Views
There are a few things wrong with that. - 31/03/2011 11:11:27 PM 852 Views
I'm planning on volunteering at a no-kill shelter in NJ when I go. - 27/03/2011 11:31:02 PM 918 Views
Sweet, and the prospect of volunteers at no kill shelters changes the economics greatly. *hugs* - 28/03/2011 04:26:29 PM 1003 Views
I'm trying to spend that time on "me" stuff. - 29/03/2011 04:13:54 AM 864 Views
Probably wise; good luck and God bless with that. - 01/04/2011 12:27:09 AM 1021 Views
It is sad but what can you do? - 28/03/2011 03:05:40 AM 944 Views
I'm not sure how this would be helpful? - 28/03/2011 06:04:26 PM 829 Views
I don't think it is wrong to neuter a dog for behavior reasons - 28/03/2011 06:35:16 PM 971 Views
I was with you until... - 28/03/2011 09:09:14 PM 833 Views
I said it was the cynical side of me not the rational side - 28/03/2011 09:31:22 PM 960 Views
Liberals are bigger fans of animal control than conservatives? - 28/03/2011 09:49:35 PM 776 Views
If you could only choose one, it would be better to choose the female. - 28/03/2011 10:03:44 PM 813 Views
WHY??? *NM* - 28/03/2011 10:08:30 PM 387 Views
Wait, no, you're right. - 28/03/2011 10:13:58 PM 858 Views
no no you were right - 29/03/2011 02:18:44 AM 847 Views
Ah, yeah. I was assuming 100% sterilization, which is unfeasible. Never mind. *NM* - 29/03/2011 03:16:22 AM 398 Views
Ghavrel, nooooooooo! Give reason and ethics a chance first! - 29/03/2011 03:27:29 AM 1062 Views
I already said it makes sense to do both. I definitely support neutering! - 29/03/2011 04:01:09 AM 1054 Views
Do you know what else is absurd? - 29/03/2011 04:09:37 AM 822 Views
A clown reading Camus? *NM* - 29/03/2011 05:31:21 AM 381 Views
that would be absurd, glad I never even suggested it *NM* - 29/03/2011 02:13:39 PM 409 Views
I think you just made my point - 29/03/2011 02:16:19 AM 915 Views
Eh forget it. Not worth my time. *NM* - 29/03/2011 03:10:03 AM 913 Views
proably true. I should know better than to fight faith with reason - 29/03/2011 03:15:49 AM 949 Views
I'm not here to debate doggie sex *NM* - 29/03/2011 03:15:56 AM 827 Views
that is good because from what I can tell the subject escapes you - 29/03/2011 02:34:37 PM 935 Views
Considering that it's much harder to fix females than males - 28/03/2011 10:07:47 PM 887 Views
how hard it is makes zero differience - 29/03/2011 02:25:17 AM 860 Views
I think that last bit was uncalled for. *NM* - 29/03/2011 04:15:44 AM 372 Views
not at all - 29/03/2011 01:23:03 PM 893 Views
For the uneducated of us (i.e. me) - 28/03/2011 09:40:07 PM 895 Views
Vasectomy: sterile but will still want to mate. Neutered: no mating behavior at all. *NM* - 28/03/2011 09:56:41 PM 412 Views
Someone needs to sit my dog down and explain this to him. - 28/03/2011 09:59:25 PM 807 Views
you probably had him cut to late - 29/03/2011 02:27:49 AM 877 Views

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