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Re: Oh, I agree. Terrible idea. nossy Send a noteboard - 11/04/2011 03:18:47 AM
all the issues with them being "employees" vs students. I'm not saying it's a bad idea or it couldn't be done, but it'd require a huge and complicated overhaul.

I think it's a terrible idea.

nossy was saying that she wants players to have all these things, PLUS a scholarship. I was saying that if you're determined to make them employees, might as well stop muddying the waters and just do it.

I wasn't saying they should be employees, but I realize it is my fault for not being clear. I was using "employment" as a term to describe the level of expectation some college athletes exist under. They already have their school paid for, but those expectations make it very unlikely that they would be able to hold down any kind of job during the school year. As such, I think they should have their needs met. If the school wasn't making so much money off of them, I would feel differently. As I said, it should be fair to both, and I think those who watch college sports religiously are being unrealistic/hypocritical if they are bothered by the fact that athletes make money (it just shouldn't be ridiculously excessive, imo).
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Hey college sports guys.. @my - 06/04/2011 06:17:34 PM 1171 Views
speaking as a former student athlete... LadyLorraine - 06/04/2011 06:43:13 PM 753 Views
I agree with this. *NM* Darth_Katie - 06/04/2011 09:16:43 PM 277 Views
Not a college sports guy, but I agree with LadyLorraine. Joel - 06/04/2011 07:17:07 PM 730 Views
I don't think that exact scenario would come up... LadyLorraine - 06/04/2011 07:33:03 PM 697 Views
Generally, I don't think they should get paid. Fox and Ravens - 06/04/2011 07:29:29 PM 657 Views
If they're in college, fuck no. But should they be in college in the first place? Legolas - 06/04/2011 07:57:03 PM 834 Views
I believe it's because sports like basketball and football want to see your college career LadyLorraine - 06/04/2011 08:47:24 PM 823 Views
Why not have young players prove themselves in the pro leagues immediately? *NM* Legolas - 06/04/2011 09:40:24 PM 259 Views
*shrug* ask them. less risk this way? *NM* LadyLorraine - 06/04/2011 10:09:39 PM 295 Views
Football players don't mature until their early 20s at the earliest Larry - 06/04/2011 10:52:50 PM 798 Views
I assume you mean why don't the NFL and NBA teams develop their own young players? snoopcester - 07/04/2011 11:32:49 AM 684 Views
I say keep the sports and get wrid of all the worthless arts and lit programs random thoughts - 07/04/2011 02:07:36 PM 716 Views
Except that "football" is not a major. LadyLorraine - 07/04/2011 07:35:37 PM 781 Views
I do believe they recieve college credit for playing random thoughts - 08/04/2011 02:14:31 PM 648 Views
Yah, in the same manner I got PE credit for doing Marching Band... LadyLorraine - 08/04/2011 09:05:55 PM 588 Views
RIt would be no harder to make football a degree program random thoughts - 09/04/2011 05:11:13 PM 639 Views
2/10; would not recommend this trolling. Ghavrel - 09/04/2011 09:35:28 PM 643 Views
pointing out the unpopular is not trolling *NM* random thoughts - 10/04/2011 03:38:35 AM 258 Views
Posting purposefully incorrect statements to get a rise out of people is. *NM* Ghavrel - 10/04/2011 08:48:02 AM 327 Views
what was the incorrect statement? *NM* random thoughts - 11/04/2011 07:18:52 PM 270 Views
Playing ignorant doesn't really suit you. Ghavrel - 11/04/2011 11:48:15 PM 658 Views
that may be, but the fact of the matter is that it isn't. *NM* LadyLorraine - 10/04/2011 12:19:14 AM 300 Views
Do you speak from experience or is it simply a matter of faith? *NM* random thoughts - 10/04/2011 03:37:31 AM 286 Views
so you do know of a school with a football major? LadyLorraine - 10/04/2011 04:50:17 PM 658 Views
Havn't we been playing them under the table all this time? *NM* grogg0316 - 06/04/2011 08:52:09 PM 406 Views
I'm already pissed they get scholarships for being able to play football. They can join the NFL beetnemesis - 07/04/2011 12:50:15 AM 758 Views
Sports bring in such a huge amount of money to schools though. Darth_Katie - 07/04/2011 04:32:37 AM 654 Views
It does help schools raise money, AND it does help the players LadyLorraine - 07/04/2011 07:38:31 PM 681 Views
That's why there are need and merit-based scholarships beetnemesis - 09/04/2011 03:22:09 PM 666 Views
I get the rationale, it just annoys me. *NM* beetnemesis - 09/04/2011 03:20:05 PM 274 Views
No. Sports brings in huge amounts of money to popular schools. *NM* Ghavrel - 09/04/2011 03:27:33 PM 261 Views
So no one should profit if everyone can't? Darth_Katie - 10/04/2011 06:25:44 PM 639 Views
Uh, no they can't just join the NFL. They have to have 2.5 years out of high school. *NM* everynametaken - 07/04/2011 04:49:07 AM 309 Views
Really? random thoughts - 07/04/2011 02:03:32 PM 688 Views
well...if anything that just means there should be MORE emphasis on academics... LadyLorraine - 07/04/2011 07:26:49 PM 787 Views
That is a personal decsion they made random thoughts - 08/04/2011 02:16:17 PM 668 Views
I'm...not really sure what that means. LadyLorraine - 08/04/2011 09:10:17 PM 611 Views
The graduation rate for athletes overall is higher than the general undergrad student body, it seems Larry - 09/04/2011 02:57:43 PM 767 Views
How is that statistic presented? LadyLorraine - 09/04/2011 03:13:54 PM 599 Views
schools are full of fluff classes and it isn't just because of sports random thoughts - 09/04/2011 05:21:57 PM 577 Views
I did not say it was. LadyLorraine - 10/04/2011 12:20:54 AM 666 Views
so we should just rely on your unbiased judgment and ignore facts? *NM* random thoughts - 10/04/2011 03:39:40 AM 282 Views
Yes that is precisely what I am asking. YOU CAUGHT ME *NM* LadyLorraine - 10/04/2011 05:25:52 PM 293 Views
well since you seem unable to support your arguments that must be the case *NM* random thoughts - 11/04/2011 07:22:33 PM 266 Views
If that is what helps you sleep at night *NM* LadyLorraine - 11/04/2011 07:51:50 PM 253 Views
You seem to be the one who needs to think football are less intelligent *NM* random thoughts - 13/04/2011 12:06:29 AM 251 Views
I said nothing about intelligence at any point LadyLorraine - 13/04/2011 03:58:18 AM 632 Views
That's because you risk your tenure if you fail the sports darlings. Ghavrel - 09/04/2011 03:24:19 PM 605 Views
your facts counter your argument not support it random thoughts - 09/04/2011 05:18:02 PM 746 Views
I'm repeating what professors have told me firsthand. Ghavrel - 09/04/2011 09:33:10 PM 939 Views
Most profeesors are weak kneed liberals who are still mad that they were shoved in lockers random thoughts - 10/04/2011 03:45:36 AM 834 Views
I laughed out loud. That was grand. Ghavrel - 10/04/2011 08:46:29 AM 592 Views
Sorry dude but "somone told me" really isn't a fact random thoughts - 11/04/2011 07:21:48 PM 625 Views
All right, man. Whatever makes you happy. *NM* Ghavrel - 11/04/2011 11:49:12 PM 248 Views
That funny coming from you *NM* random thoughts - 13/04/2011 12:05:30 AM 241 Views
Err... I don't care? My point was that colleges shouldn't give a damn about athletics beetnemesis - 09/04/2011 03:25:24 PM 730 Views
Because college is only about what YOU think it should be about? random thoughts - 09/04/2011 04:14:03 PM 631 Views
And yet we seem to agree that college is about education beetnemesis - 09/04/2011 07:29:31 PM 740 Views
you said you are pissed that they recieve scholarships random thoughts - 09/04/2011 07:45:02 PM 659 Views
Or girls? nossy - 08/04/2011 03:03:55 PM 608 Views
I can agree with this LadyLorraine - 08/04/2011 09:12:54 PM 636 Views
How about yes salary, no scholarship? They're getting paid with a full college scholarship. beetnemesis - 09/04/2011 03:30:06 PM 717 Views
you would have the issues brought up by the article LadyLorraine - 10/04/2011 05:15:12 PM 547 Views
Oh, I agree. Terrible idea. beetnemesis - 11/04/2011 02:57:37 AM 607 Views
Re: Oh, I agree. Terrible idea. nossy - 11/04/2011 03:18:47 AM 590 Views
if you have a full-ride... LadyLorraine - 11/04/2011 03:29:42 AM 716 Views
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