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I call shenanigans on Seel Stephen Send a noteboard - 15/04/2011 04:48:48 PM
Of course the bloody bill is about Obama. I doubt he's completely independently developed a searing passion to confirm the birth status of every presidental candidate at a time when people are questioning Obama's eligibilty.

That's not to say I don't have a problem with the bill as a general idea. It's the kind of minor formality than in many ways one would think it would already be in place. It's just questioning the motivations of introducing the bill at this time, that make me think there's some dishonesty going on.
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WTF arizona? moondog - 15/04/2011 04:28:19 PM 2278 Views
I think it's more payback than anything else, what exactly are you objecting to anyway? Isaac - 15/04/2011 04:46:17 PM 1172 Views
Yeah, I'm going "wait, they didn't have to do that yet?" here as well. Legolas - 15/04/2011 08:40:44 PM 1076 Views
It is a bit of an oversight not to have that Isaac - 15/04/2011 09:41:40 PM 1259 Views
that's because they're morons. LadyLorraine - 16/04/2011 03:36:54 AM 1203 Views
Re: that's because they're morons. Isaac - 16/04/2011 04:27:04 AM 1036 Views
I wouldn't ACTUALLY hunt boars with a boar spear, but that's because I'm too little LadyLorraine - 16/04/2011 04:44:14 AM 1267 Views
I think everyone's too little Isaac - 16/04/2011 02:20:29 PM 1248 Views
it's the spirit, not the letter, of the law that i have a problem with moondog - 15/04/2011 10:19:27 PM 1130 Views
Surprisingly, many politicians are mean-spirited Isaac - 16/04/2011 02:31:37 AM 1141 Views
if any of those examples were legislated by a state house, you'd have a stronger argument.... moondog - 16/04/2011 07:23:49 AM 1060 Views
I believe I gave you state examples already Isaac - 16/04/2011 01:55:37 PM 1014 Views
it's moot at this point, but.... moondog - 19/04/2011 05:31:29 AM 1118 Views
I can't believe this thread is still going... Isaac - 20/04/2011 12:58:52 AM 1193 Views
I call shenanigans on Seel Stephen - 15/04/2011 04:48:48 PM 1150 Views
really becasue Obama has already produced enough documents to clear this bar random thoughts - 17/04/2011 01:04:39 AM 1143 Views
The article is wrong on one key point. Obama has not produced a birth certificate random thoughts - 15/04/2011 04:50:21 PM 1245 Views
Yes he has. Don't act like a fool. Tom - 15/04/2011 05:02:58 PM 1291 Views
sorry but it is not the same so don't act like a fool random thoughts - 15/04/2011 06:04:19 PM 1230 Views
It's clear that he was born in the US. Tom - 15/04/2011 06:54:28 PM 1207 Views
Care to point out where you believe I was defending them? random thoughts - 15/04/2011 07:37:39 PM 1155 Views
You say that Obama hasn't produced a birth certificate, when he has. Tom - 15/04/2011 07:47:54 PM 1135 Views
Re: sorry but it is not the same so don't act like a fool Skeeve the Great - 15/04/2011 10:45:03 PM 1041 Views
Why is it racist? random thoughts - 17/04/2011 12:49:02 AM 1047 Views
What exactly is the difference between certificates? LadyLorraine - 16/04/2011 12:13:04 AM 1150 Views
One is the origianl document and one is a certificate created when it is requested. random thoughts - 17/04/2011 12:44:27 AM 1170 Views
Then you need be be more clear because that is not what you said. LadyLorraine - 17/04/2011 03:14:03 AM 1145 Views
OK I will try to be clearer random thoughts - 18/04/2011 03:03:56 AM 1068 Views
Why should he show it? everynametaken - 16/04/2011 11:38:53 PM 1122 Views
I personally have no problem with him not showing it random thoughts - 17/04/2011 12:38:42 AM 1270 Views
Presumably you want his certificate of stillbirth as well? Tim - 16/04/2011 12:59:22 PM 1122 Views
thanks for your contribution. They are all important no matter how small *NM* random thoughts - 17/04/2011 12:50:55 AM 607 Views
thanks for your contribution. They are all important no matter how small *NM* random thoughts - 17/04/2011 12:50:56 AM 549 Views
I wish the birthers would stop waste everyone's time and focus on actual policies of Obama's. Tom - 15/04/2011 04:59:01 PM 1229 Views
Actually nossy - 15/04/2011 06:12:41 PM 1197 Views
This LadyLorraine - 15/04/2011 11:59:47 PM 1055 Views
He already has Roland00 - 16/04/2011 07:41:43 AM 1166 Views
I'm not referring to Obama. Just anyone who wants to be anyone in the future. *NM* nossy - 16/04/2011 02:01:25 PM 539 Views
Don't we already do this? The_Muted_Grimaud - 15/04/2011 06:24:29 PM 1124 Views
actually there isn't random thoughts - 15/04/2011 07:43:47 PM 1201 Views
He did produce his Certificate of Live Birth and was approved to run for President. Case closed. everynametaken - 16/04/2011 11:42:05 PM 1158 Views
do you have link for that? *NM* random thoughts - 17/04/2011 01:17:51 AM 561 Views
In all fairness to the discussion I do not. everynametaken - 19/04/2011 04:24:30 AM 1140 Views
It was a certificaTION of live birth and not a certificate MalkierKnight - 19/04/2011 03:51:29 PM 1320 Views
Which is a form of birth certificate Floffe - 20/04/2011 08:45:41 AM 1214 Views
Meh, who cares? ßelals Girl - 15/04/2011 07:31:22 PM 1170 Views
we're the 14 year old boy of the U.S. *NM* Jessie - 16/04/2011 03:37:51 AM 554 Views
Re: I actually find the whole thing hilarious, and I hope it continues. Gaps - 16/04/2011 01:33:34 AM 1170 Views
What's the problem? Show your birth certficate, problem solved. *NM* trzaska2000 - 16/04/2011 03:32:37 AM 560 Views
problem was solved awhile ago when he produced his birth certificate. what are you holding onto? *NM* moondog - 16/04/2011 07:29:39 AM 567 Views
Perhaps he's responding to the actual post, and not talking about Obama this time? *NM* Tim - 16/04/2011 12:56:50 PM 538 Views
As per the Constitution, Congress already verifies eligibility. Of each President. TaskmasterJack - 16/04/2011 03:36:06 PM 1132 Views
Did you mean to reply to me or to the main post? *NM* Tim - 16/04/2011 03:44:38 PM 546 Views
You. Well, the trzaska subthread in general. Although it applies to the overall topic equally. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 16/04/2011 03:53:38 PM 530 Views
Which is why I would think even if this law passes it will be tossed as it should. everynametaken - 16/04/2011 11:44:50 PM 1117 Views
staes control who can be on their ballot *NM* random thoughts - 17/04/2011 01:18:24 AM 554 Views
staes control who can be on their ballot *NM* random thoughts - 17/04/2011 01:18:24 AM 605 Views
Supposedly the FEC only has jurisdiction over matters of campaign finance. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 17/04/2011 03:24:39 AM 606 Views
as per you pulled that out of your ass random thoughts - 17/04/2011 01:16:15 AM 1108 Views
Actually it wasn't my ass, it was an anti-Obama political blogging site's ass. TaskmasterJack - 17/04/2011 03:56:35 AM 1169 Views
not only is no one in charge of making sure the president meets all the qualifications random thoughts - 18/04/2011 02:51:16 AM 1142 Views
To make things even more fun in this thread... Larry - 18/04/2011 03:50:43 AM 1166 Views
Re: To make things even more fun in this thread... moondog - 19/04/2011 04:24:05 AM 1042 Views
That wasn't the point Larry - 21/04/2011 05:48:04 AM 1112 Views
I am not a birther, but WTF makes you a nutjob for this? MalkierKnight - 18/04/2011 08:40:15 AM 1354 Views
read above, he has. *NM* LadyLorraine - 18/04/2011 02:47:25 PM 524 Views
Provided a birth certificate? MalkierKnight - 18/04/2011 02:51:56 PM 1821 Views
Why is a Certification of Live Birth insufficient? Aeryn - 18/04/2011 08:43:34 PM 1196 Views
because it's easier to push a non-issue than it is to work on something constructive i guess.... moondog - 19/04/2011 04:27:31 AM 1082 Views
No, actually MalkierKnight - 19/04/2011 05:18:52 AM 1279 Views
Re: No, actually MalkierKnight - 19/04/2011 05:19:51 AM 1263 Views
Since when is religion hereditary? Aeryn - 19/04/2011 02:57:30 PM 1215 Views
Re: Since when is religion hereditary? MalkierKnight - 19/04/2011 03:10:27 PM 1294 Views
Re: Since when is religion hereditary? snoopcester - 19/04/2011 03:32:10 PM 1298 Views
I don't think it's as strong a claim as you make it out to be MalkierKnight - 19/04/2011 03:39:01 PM 1443 Views
I think it is for some people. snoopcester - 19/04/2011 03:55:45 PM 1058 Views
how many previous presidents have had to prove their place of birth? moondog - 19/04/2011 04:34:42 PM 1114 Views
with how many has it been in doubt? *NM* random thoughts - 19/04/2011 05:08:18 PM 582 Views
why doubt this one beyond all others? *NM* moondog - 19/04/2011 06:45:24 PM 527 Views
people always find some reason to doubt the legitimacy of a president they don't like random thoughts - 19/04/2011 09:01:33 PM 1255 Views
Brewer vetoes the bill! Skeeve the Great - 19/04/2011 02:31:50 AM 1322 Views
yay, she's not as much of a nutjob as i once thought she was! moondog - 19/04/2011 04:28:05 AM 1212 Views
yes she is, don't let her fool you *NM* LadyLorraine - 19/04/2011 04:31:10 PM 506 Views
i didn't say she's not, just not as much as i thought before *NM* moondog - 19/04/2011 04:37:34 PM 529 Views
good. maybe they will move on to more important things *NM* random thoughts - 19/04/2011 02:41:34 PM 509 Views
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