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I call shenanigans on Seel Stephen Send a noteboard - 15/04/2011 04:48:48 PM
Of course the bloody bill is about Obama. I doubt he's completely independently developed a searing passion to confirm the birth status of every presidental candidate at a time when people are questioning Obama's eligibilty.

That's not to say I don't have a problem with the bill as a general idea. It's the kind of minor formality than in many ways one would think it would already be in place. It's just questioning the motivations of introducing the bill at this time, that make me think there's some dishonesty going on.
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WTF arizona? moondog - 15/04/2011 04:28:19 PM 1885 Views
I think it's more payback than anything else, what exactly are you objecting to anyway? Isaac - 15/04/2011 04:46:17 PM 816 Views
Yeah, I'm going "wait, they didn't have to do that yet?" here as well. Legolas - 15/04/2011 08:40:44 PM 718 Views
It is a bit of an oversight not to have that Isaac - 15/04/2011 09:41:40 PM 895 Views
that's because they're morons. LadyLorraine - 16/04/2011 03:36:54 AM 830 Views
Re: that's because they're morons. Isaac - 16/04/2011 04:27:04 AM 686 Views
I wouldn't ACTUALLY hunt boars with a boar spear, but that's because I'm too little LadyLorraine - 16/04/2011 04:44:14 AM 855 Views
I think everyone's too little Isaac - 16/04/2011 02:20:29 PM 850 Views
it's the spirit, not the letter, of the law that i have a problem with moondog - 15/04/2011 10:19:27 PM 773 Views
Surprisingly, many politicians are mean-spirited Isaac - 16/04/2011 02:31:37 AM 764 Views
if any of those examples were legislated by a state house, you'd have a stronger argument.... moondog - 16/04/2011 07:23:49 AM 708 Views
I believe I gave you state examples already Isaac - 16/04/2011 01:55:37 PM 654 Views
it's moot at this point, but.... moondog - 19/04/2011 05:31:29 AM 733 Views
I can't believe this thread is still going... Isaac - 20/04/2011 12:58:52 AM 817 Views
I call shenanigans on Seel Stephen - 15/04/2011 04:48:48 PM 763 Views
really becasue Obama has already produced enough documents to clear this bar random thoughts - 17/04/2011 01:04:39 AM 735 Views
The article is wrong on one key point. Obama has not produced a birth certificate random thoughts - 15/04/2011 04:50:21 PM 849 Views
Yes he has. Don't act like a fool. Tom - 15/04/2011 05:02:58 PM 915 Views
sorry but it is not the same so don't act like a fool random thoughts - 15/04/2011 06:04:19 PM 847 Views
It's clear that he was born in the US. Tom - 15/04/2011 06:54:28 PM 821 Views
Care to point out where you believe I was defending them? random thoughts - 15/04/2011 07:37:39 PM 783 Views
You say that Obama hasn't produced a birth certificate, when he has. Tom - 15/04/2011 07:47:54 PM 724 Views
Re: sorry but it is not the same so don't act like a fool Skeeve the Great - 15/04/2011 10:45:03 PM 688 Views
Why is it racist? random thoughts - 17/04/2011 12:49:02 AM 712 Views
What exactly is the difference between certificates? LadyLorraine - 16/04/2011 12:13:04 AM 807 Views
One is the origianl document and one is a certificate created when it is requested. random thoughts - 17/04/2011 12:44:27 AM 799 Views
Then you need be be more clear because that is not what you said. LadyLorraine - 17/04/2011 03:14:03 AM 775 Views
OK I will try to be clearer random thoughts - 18/04/2011 03:03:56 AM 763 Views
Why should he show it? everynametaken - 16/04/2011 11:38:53 PM 714 Views
I personally have no problem with him not showing it random thoughts - 17/04/2011 12:38:42 AM 834 Views
Presumably you want his certificate of stillbirth as well? Tim - 16/04/2011 12:59:22 PM 754 Views
thanks for your contribution. They are all important no matter how small *NM* random thoughts - 17/04/2011 12:50:55 AM 408 Views
thanks for your contribution. They are all important no matter how small *NM* random thoughts - 17/04/2011 12:50:56 AM 378 Views
I wish the birthers would stop waste everyone's time and focus on actual policies of Obama's. Tom - 15/04/2011 04:59:01 PM 864 Views
Actually nossy - 15/04/2011 06:12:41 PM 823 Views
This LadyLorraine - 15/04/2011 11:59:47 PM 676 Views
He already has Roland00 - 16/04/2011 07:41:43 AM 796 Views
I'm not referring to Obama. Just anyone who wants to be anyone in the future. *NM* nossy - 16/04/2011 02:01:25 PM 357 Views
Don't we already do this? The_Muted_Grimaud - 15/04/2011 06:24:29 PM 759 Views
actually there isn't random thoughts - 15/04/2011 07:43:47 PM 829 Views
He did produce his Certificate of Live Birth and was approved to run for President. Case closed. everynametaken - 16/04/2011 11:42:05 PM 812 Views
do you have link for that? *NM* random thoughts - 17/04/2011 01:17:51 AM 392 Views
In all fairness to the discussion I do not. everynametaken - 19/04/2011 04:24:30 AM 768 Views
It was a certificaTION of live birth and not a certificate MalkierKnight - 19/04/2011 03:51:29 PM 902 Views
Which is a form of birth certificate Floffe - 20/04/2011 08:45:41 AM 851 Views
Meh, who cares? ßelals Girl - 15/04/2011 07:31:22 PM 800 Views
we're the 14 year old boy of the U.S. *NM* Jessie - 16/04/2011 03:37:51 AM 362 Views
Re: I actually find the whole thing hilarious, and I hope it continues. Gaps - 16/04/2011 01:33:34 AM 827 Views
What's the problem? Show your birth certficate, problem solved. *NM* trzaska2000 - 16/04/2011 03:32:37 AM 397 Views
problem was solved awhile ago when he produced his birth certificate. what are you holding onto? *NM* moondog - 16/04/2011 07:29:39 AM 400 Views
Perhaps he's responding to the actual post, and not talking about Obama this time? *NM* Tim - 16/04/2011 12:56:50 PM 365 Views
As per the Constitution, Congress already verifies eligibility. Of each President. TaskmasterJack - 16/04/2011 03:36:06 PM 758 Views
Did you mean to reply to me or to the main post? *NM* Tim - 16/04/2011 03:44:38 PM 364 Views
You. Well, the trzaska subthread in general. Although it applies to the overall topic equally. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 16/04/2011 03:53:38 PM 361 Views
Which is why I would think even if this law passes it will be tossed as it should. everynametaken - 16/04/2011 11:44:50 PM 734 Views
staes control who can be on their ballot *NM* random thoughts - 17/04/2011 01:18:24 AM 369 Views
staes control who can be on their ballot *NM* random thoughts - 17/04/2011 01:18:24 AM 392 Views
Supposedly the FEC only has jurisdiction over matters of campaign finance. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 17/04/2011 03:24:39 AM 459 Views
as per you pulled that out of your ass random thoughts - 17/04/2011 01:16:15 AM 724 Views
Actually it wasn't my ass, it was an anti-Obama political blogging site's ass. TaskmasterJack - 17/04/2011 03:56:35 AM 797 Views
not only is no one in charge of making sure the president meets all the qualifications random thoughts - 18/04/2011 02:51:16 AM 778 Views
To make things even more fun in this thread... Larry - 18/04/2011 03:50:43 AM 811 Views
Re: To make things even more fun in this thread... moondog - 19/04/2011 04:24:05 AM 696 Views
That wasn't the point Larry - 21/04/2011 05:48:04 AM 739 Views
I am not a birther, but WTF makes you a nutjob for this? MalkierKnight - 18/04/2011 08:40:15 AM 934 Views
read above, he has. *NM* LadyLorraine - 18/04/2011 02:47:25 PM 373 Views
Provided a birth certificate? MalkierKnight - 18/04/2011 02:51:56 PM 1036 Views
Why is a Certification of Live Birth insufficient? Aeryn - 18/04/2011 08:43:34 PM 826 Views
because it's easier to push a non-issue than it is to work on something constructive i guess.... moondog - 19/04/2011 04:27:31 AM 664 Views
No, actually MalkierKnight - 19/04/2011 05:18:52 AM 864 Views
Re: No, actually MalkierKnight - 19/04/2011 05:19:51 AM 844 Views
Since when is religion hereditary? Aeryn - 19/04/2011 02:57:30 PM 873 Views
Re: Since when is religion hereditary? MalkierKnight - 19/04/2011 03:10:27 PM 802 Views
Re: Since when is religion hereditary? snoopcester - 19/04/2011 03:32:10 PM 909 Views
I don't think it's as strong a claim as you make it out to be MalkierKnight - 19/04/2011 03:39:01 PM 1006 Views
I think it is for some people. snoopcester - 19/04/2011 03:55:45 PM 701 Views
how many previous presidents have had to prove their place of birth? moondog - 19/04/2011 04:34:42 PM 743 Views
with how many has it been in doubt? *NM* random thoughts - 19/04/2011 05:08:18 PM 403 Views
why doubt this one beyond all others? *NM* moondog - 19/04/2011 06:45:24 PM 354 Views
people always find some reason to doubt the legitimacy of a president they don't like random thoughts - 19/04/2011 09:01:33 PM 903 Views
Brewer vetoes the bill! Skeeve the Great - 19/04/2011 02:31:50 AM 934 Views
yay, she's not as much of a nutjob as i once thought she was! moondog - 19/04/2011 04:28:05 AM 830 Views
yes she is, don't let her fool you *NM* LadyLorraine - 19/04/2011 04:31:10 PM 312 Views
i didn't say she's not, just not as much as i thought before *NM* moondog - 19/04/2011 04:37:34 PM 358 Views
good. maybe they will move on to more important things *NM* random thoughts - 19/04/2011 02:41:34 PM 329 Views
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