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Which is why I would think even if this law passes it will be tossed as it should. everynametaken Send a noteboard - 16/04/2011 11:44:50 PM
If each state passes such a law, would every candidate then be required to show verification of his nationality at the federal level and then drive around with his papers and let each individual state authenticate them as well? Seems pointlessly ridiculous.


States do not control eligibility for national elections. I thought it was the Federal Election Commission that viewed his Certificate of Live Birth but maybe it is Congress as you suggest. I can't remember for sure. But, point being that Federal law already mandates sufficient proof making Arizona's law irrelevant.
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WTF arizona? moondog - 15/04/2011 04:28:19 PM 1879 Views
I think it's more payback than anything else, what exactly are you objecting to anyway? Isaac - 15/04/2011 04:46:17 PM 810 Views
Yeah, I'm going "wait, they didn't have to do that yet?" here as well. Legolas - 15/04/2011 08:40:44 PM 713 Views
It is a bit of an oversight not to have that Isaac - 15/04/2011 09:41:40 PM 890 Views
that's because they're morons. LadyLorraine - 16/04/2011 03:36:54 AM 826 Views
Re: that's because they're morons. Isaac - 16/04/2011 04:27:04 AM 683 Views
I wouldn't ACTUALLY hunt boars with a boar spear, but that's because I'm too little LadyLorraine - 16/04/2011 04:44:14 AM 849 Views
I think everyone's too little Isaac - 16/04/2011 02:20:29 PM 846 Views
it's the spirit, not the letter, of the law that i have a problem with moondog - 15/04/2011 10:19:27 PM 768 Views
Surprisingly, many politicians are mean-spirited Isaac - 16/04/2011 02:31:37 AM 760 Views
if any of those examples were legislated by a state house, you'd have a stronger argument.... moondog - 16/04/2011 07:23:49 AM 700 Views
I believe I gave you state examples already Isaac - 16/04/2011 01:55:37 PM 649 Views
it's moot at this point, but.... moondog - 19/04/2011 05:31:29 AM 728 Views
I can't believe this thread is still going... Isaac - 20/04/2011 12:58:52 AM 812 Views
I call shenanigans on Seel Stephen - 15/04/2011 04:48:48 PM 758 Views
really becasue Obama has already produced enough documents to clear this bar random thoughts - 17/04/2011 01:04:39 AM 732 Views
The article is wrong on one key point. Obama has not produced a birth certificate random thoughts - 15/04/2011 04:50:21 PM 846 Views
Yes he has. Don't act like a fool. Tom - 15/04/2011 05:02:58 PM 910 Views
sorry but it is not the same so don't act like a fool random thoughts - 15/04/2011 06:04:19 PM 844 Views
It's clear that he was born in the US. Tom - 15/04/2011 06:54:28 PM 814 Views
Care to point out where you believe I was defending them? random thoughts - 15/04/2011 07:37:39 PM 778 Views
You say that Obama hasn't produced a birth certificate, when he has. Tom - 15/04/2011 07:47:54 PM 720 Views
Re: sorry but it is not the same so don't act like a fool Skeeve the Great - 15/04/2011 10:45:03 PM 684 Views
Why is it racist? random thoughts - 17/04/2011 12:49:02 AM 707 Views
What exactly is the difference between certificates? LadyLorraine - 16/04/2011 12:13:04 AM 802 Views
One is the origianl document and one is a certificate created when it is requested. random thoughts - 17/04/2011 12:44:27 AM 795 Views
Then you need be be more clear because that is not what you said. LadyLorraine - 17/04/2011 03:14:03 AM 771 Views
OK I will try to be clearer random thoughts - 18/04/2011 03:03:56 AM 760 Views
Why should he show it? everynametaken - 16/04/2011 11:38:53 PM 709 Views
I personally have no problem with him not showing it random thoughts - 17/04/2011 12:38:42 AM 828 Views
Presumably you want his certificate of stillbirth as well? Tim - 16/04/2011 12:59:22 PM 749 Views
thanks for your contribution. They are all important no matter how small *NM* random thoughts - 17/04/2011 12:50:55 AM 403 Views
thanks for your contribution. They are all important no matter how small *NM* random thoughts - 17/04/2011 12:50:56 AM 377 Views
I wish the birthers would stop waste everyone's time and focus on actual policies of Obama's. Tom - 15/04/2011 04:59:01 PM 858 Views
Actually nossy - 15/04/2011 06:12:41 PM 818 Views
This LadyLorraine - 15/04/2011 11:59:47 PM 672 Views
He already has Roland00 - 16/04/2011 07:41:43 AM 790 Views
I'm not referring to Obama. Just anyone who wants to be anyone in the future. *NM* nossy - 16/04/2011 02:01:25 PM 355 Views
Don't we already do this? The_Muted_Grimaud - 15/04/2011 06:24:29 PM 754 Views
actually there isn't random thoughts - 15/04/2011 07:43:47 PM 826 Views
He did produce his Certificate of Live Birth and was approved to run for President. Case closed. everynametaken - 16/04/2011 11:42:05 PM 805 Views
do you have link for that? *NM* random thoughts - 17/04/2011 01:17:51 AM 391 Views
In all fairness to the discussion I do not. everynametaken - 19/04/2011 04:24:30 AM 763 Views
It was a certificaTION of live birth and not a certificate MalkierKnight - 19/04/2011 03:51:29 PM 899 Views
Which is a form of birth certificate Floffe - 20/04/2011 08:45:41 AM 845 Views
Meh, who cares? ßelals Girl - 15/04/2011 07:31:22 PM 794 Views
we're the 14 year old boy of the U.S. *NM* Jessie - 16/04/2011 03:37:51 AM 361 Views
Re: I actually find the whole thing hilarious, and I hope it continues. Gaps - 16/04/2011 01:33:34 AM 820 Views
What's the problem? Show your birth certficate, problem solved. *NM* trzaska2000 - 16/04/2011 03:32:37 AM 394 Views
problem was solved awhile ago when he produced his birth certificate. what are you holding onto? *NM* moondog - 16/04/2011 07:29:39 AM 398 Views
Perhaps he's responding to the actual post, and not talking about Obama this time? *NM* Tim - 16/04/2011 12:56:50 PM 364 Views
As per the Constitution, Congress already verifies eligibility. Of each President. TaskmasterJack - 16/04/2011 03:36:06 PM 755 Views
Did you mean to reply to me or to the main post? *NM* Tim - 16/04/2011 03:44:38 PM 362 Views
You. Well, the trzaska subthread in general. Although it applies to the overall topic equally. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 16/04/2011 03:53:38 PM 359 Views
Which is why I would think even if this law passes it will be tossed as it should. everynametaken - 16/04/2011 11:44:50 PM 731 Views
staes control who can be on their ballot *NM* random thoughts - 17/04/2011 01:18:24 AM 368 Views
staes control who can be on their ballot *NM* random thoughts - 17/04/2011 01:18:24 AM 391 Views
Supposedly the FEC only has jurisdiction over matters of campaign finance. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 17/04/2011 03:24:39 AM 457 Views
as per you pulled that out of your ass random thoughts - 17/04/2011 01:16:15 AM 719 Views
Actually it wasn't my ass, it was an anti-Obama political blogging site's ass. TaskmasterJack - 17/04/2011 03:56:35 AM 793 Views
not only is no one in charge of making sure the president meets all the qualifications random thoughts - 18/04/2011 02:51:16 AM 772 Views
To make things even more fun in this thread... Larry - 18/04/2011 03:50:43 AM 807 Views
Re: To make things even more fun in this thread... moondog - 19/04/2011 04:24:05 AM 689 Views
That wasn't the point Larry - 21/04/2011 05:48:04 AM 733 Views
I am not a birther, but WTF makes you a nutjob for this? MalkierKnight - 18/04/2011 08:40:15 AM 928 Views
read above, he has. *NM* LadyLorraine - 18/04/2011 02:47:25 PM 370 Views
Provided a birth certificate? MalkierKnight - 18/04/2011 02:51:56 PM 1030 Views
Why is a Certification of Live Birth insufficient? Aeryn - 18/04/2011 08:43:34 PM 821 Views
because it's easier to push a non-issue than it is to work on something constructive i guess.... moondog - 19/04/2011 04:27:31 AM 659 Views
No, actually MalkierKnight - 19/04/2011 05:18:52 AM 859 Views
Re: No, actually MalkierKnight - 19/04/2011 05:19:51 AM 837 Views
Since when is religion hereditary? Aeryn - 19/04/2011 02:57:30 PM 869 Views
Re: Since when is religion hereditary? MalkierKnight - 19/04/2011 03:10:27 PM 797 Views
Re: Since when is religion hereditary? snoopcester - 19/04/2011 03:32:10 PM 904 Views
I don't think it's as strong a claim as you make it out to be MalkierKnight - 19/04/2011 03:39:01 PM 1001 Views
I think it is for some people. snoopcester - 19/04/2011 03:55:45 PM 696 Views
how many previous presidents have had to prove their place of birth? moondog - 19/04/2011 04:34:42 PM 737 Views
with how many has it been in doubt? *NM* random thoughts - 19/04/2011 05:08:18 PM 401 Views
why doubt this one beyond all others? *NM* moondog - 19/04/2011 06:45:24 PM 352 Views
people always find some reason to doubt the legitimacy of a president they don't like random thoughts - 19/04/2011 09:01:33 PM 898 Views
Brewer vetoes the bill! Skeeve the Great - 19/04/2011 02:31:50 AM 931 Views
yay, she's not as much of a nutjob as i once thought she was! moondog - 19/04/2011 04:28:05 AM 824 Views
yes she is, don't let her fool you *NM* LadyLorraine - 19/04/2011 04:31:10 PM 310 Views
i didn't say she's not, just not as much as i thought before *NM* moondog - 19/04/2011 04:37:34 PM 356 Views
good. maybe they will move on to more important things *NM* random thoughts - 19/04/2011 02:41:34 PM 328 Views
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