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Which is why I would think even if this law passes it will be tossed as it should. everynametaken Send a noteboard - 16/04/2011 11:44:50 PM
If each state passes such a law, would every candidate then be required to show verification of his nationality at the federal level and then drive around with his papers and let each individual state authenticate them as well? Seems pointlessly ridiculous.


States do not control eligibility for national elections. I thought it was the Federal Election Commission that viewed his Certificate of Live Birth but maybe it is Congress as you suggest. I can't remember for sure. But, point being that Federal law already mandates sufficient proof making Arizona's law irrelevant.
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WTF arizona? moondog - 15/04/2011 04:28:19 PM 2050 Views
I think it's more payback than anything else, what exactly are you objecting to anyway? Isaac - 15/04/2011 04:46:17 PM 967 Views
Yeah, I'm going "wait, they didn't have to do that yet?" here as well. Legolas - 15/04/2011 08:40:44 PM 872 Views
It is a bit of an oversight not to have that Isaac - 15/04/2011 09:41:40 PM 1064 Views
that's because they're morons. LadyLorraine - 16/04/2011 03:36:54 AM 982 Views
Re: that's because they're morons. Isaac - 16/04/2011 04:27:04 AM 845 Views
I wouldn't ACTUALLY hunt boars with a boar spear, but that's because I'm too little LadyLorraine - 16/04/2011 04:44:14 AM 1021 Views
I think everyone's too little Isaac - 16/04/2011 02:20:29 PM 1012 Views
it's the spirit, not the letter, of the law that i have a problem with moondog - 15/04/2011 10:19:27 PM 930 Views
Surprisingly, many politicians are mean-spirited Isaac - 16/04/2011 02:31:37 AM 924 Views
if any of those examples were legislated by a state house, you'd have a stronger argument.... moondog - 16/04/2011 07:23:49 AM 866 Views
I believe I gave you state examples already Isaac - 16/04/2011 01:55:37 PM 809 Views
it's moot at this point, but.... moondog - 19/04/2011 05:31:29 AM 883 Views
I can't believe this thread is still going... Isaac - 20/04/2011 12:58:52 AM 975 Views
I call shenanigans on Seel Stephen - 15/04/2011 04:48:48 PM 919 Views
really becasue Obama has already produced enough documents to clear this bar random thoughts - 17/04/2011 01:04:39 AM 910 Views
The article is wrong on one key point. Obama has not produced a birth certificate random thoughts - 15/04/2011 04:50:21 PM 1007 Views
Yes he has. Don't act like a fool. Tom - 15/04/2011 05:02:58 PM 1080 Views
sorry but it is not the same so don't act like a fool random thoughts - 15/04/2011 06:04:19 PM 1019 Views
It's clear that he was born in the US. Tom - 15/04/2011 06:54:28 PM 990 Views
Care to point out where you believe I was defending them? random thoughts - 15/04/2011 07:37:39 PM 942 Views
You say that Obama hasn't produced a birth certificate, when he has. Tom - 15/04/2011 07:47:54 PM 878 Views
Re: sorry but it is not the same so don't act like a fool Skeeve the Great - 15/04/2011 10:45:03 PM 841 Views
Why is it racist? random thoughts - 17/04/2011 12:49:02 AM 863 Views
What exactly is the difference between certificates? LadyLorraine - 16/04/2011 12:13:04 AM 952 Views
One is the origianl document and one is a certificate created when it is requested. random thoughts - 17/04/2011 12:44:27 AM 953 Views
Then you need be be more clear because that is not what you said. LadyLorraine - 17/04/2011 03:14:03 AM 954 Views
OK I will try to be clearer random thoughts - 18/04/2011 03:03:56 AM 893 Views
Why should he show it? everynametaken - 16/04/2011 11:38:53 PM 888 Views
I personally have no problem with him not showing it random thoughts - 17/04/2011 12:38:42 AM 1003 Views
Presumably you want his certificate of stillbirth as well? Tim - 16/04/2011 12:59:22 PM 906 Views
thanks for your contribution. They are all important no matter how small *NM* random thoughts - 17/04/2011 12:50:55 AM 486 Views
thanks for your contribution. They are all important no matter how small *NM* random thoughts - 17/04/2011 12:50:56 AM 439 Views
I wish the birthers would stop waste everyone's time and focus on actual policies of Obama's. Tom - 15/04/2011 04:59:01 PM 1024 Views
Actually nossy - 15/04/2011 06:12:41 PM 979 Views
This LadyLorraine - 15/04/2011 11:59:47 PM 835 Views
He already has Roland00 - 16/04/2011 07:41:43 AM 961 Views
I'm not referring to Obama. Just anyone who wants to be anyone in the future. *NM* nossy - 16/04/2011 02:01:25 PM 423 Views
Don't we already do this? The_Muted_Grimaud - 15/04/2011 06:24:29 PM 926 Views
actually there isn't random thoughts - 15/04/2011 07:43:47 PM 991 Views
He did produce his Certificate of Live Birth and was approved to run for President. Case closed. everynametaken - 16/04/2011 11:42:05 PM 957 Views
do you have link for that? *NM* random thoughts - 17/04/2011 01:17:51 AM 459 Views
In all fairness to the discussion I do not. everynametaken - 19/04/2011 04:24:30 AM 929 Views
It was a certificaTION of live birth and not a certificate MalkierKnight - 19/04/2011 03:51:29 PM 1121 Views
Which is a form of birth certificate Floffe - 20/04/2011 08:45:41 AM 995 Views
Meh, who cares? ßelals Girl - 15/04/2011 07:31:22 PM 972 Views
we're the 14 year old boy of the U.S. *NM* Jessie - 16/04/2011 03:37:51 AM 438 Views
Re: I actually find the whole thing hilarious, and I hope it continues. Gaps - 16/04/2011 01:33:34 AM 972 Views
What's the problem? Show your birth certficate, problem solved. *NM* trzaska2000 - 16/04/2011 03:32:37 AM 461 Views
problem was solved awhile ago when he produced his birth certificate. what are you holding onto? *NM* moondog - 16/04/2011 07:29:39 AM 469 Views
Perhaps he's responding to the actual post, and not talking about Obama this time? *NM* Tim - 16/04/2011 12:56:50 PM 436 Views
As per the Constitution, Congress already verifies eligibility. Of each President. TaskmasterJack - 16/04/2011 03:36:06 PM 910 Views
Did you mean to reply to me or to the main post? *NM* Tim - 16/04/2011 03:44:38 PM 450 Views
You. Well, the trzaska subthread in general. Although it applies to the overall topic equally. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 16/04/2011 03:53:38 PM 427 Views
Which is why I would think even if this law passes it will be tossed as it should. everynametaken - 16/04/2011 11:44:50 PM 901 Views
staes control who can be on their ballot *NM* random thoughts - 17/04/2011 01:18:24 AM 427 Views
staes control who can be on their ballot *NM* random thoughts - 17/04/2011 01:18:24 AM 469 Views
Supposedly the FEC only has jurisdiction over matters of campaign finance. *NM* TaskmasterJack - 17/04/2011 03:24:39 AM 523 Views
as per you pulled that out of your ass random thoughts - 17/04/2011 01:16:15 AM 891 Views
Actually it wasn't my ass, it was an anti-Obama political blogging site's ass. TaskmasterJack - 17/04/2011 03:56:35 AM 955 Views
not only is no one in charge of making sure the president meets all the qualifications random thoughts - 18/04/2011 02:51:16 AM 940 Views
To make things even more fun in this thread... Larry - 18/04/2011 03:50:43 AM 935 Views
Re: To make things even more fun in this thread... moondog - 19/04/2011 04:24:05 AM 843 Views
That wasn't the point Larry - 21/04/2011 05:48:04 AM 904 Views
I am not a birther, but WTF makes you a nutjob for this? MalkierKnight - 18/04/2011 08:40:15 AM 1159 Views
read above, he has. *NM* LadyLorraine - 18/04/2011 02:47:25 PM 443 Views
Provided a birth certificate? MalkierKnight - 18/04/2011 02:51:56 PM 1441 Views
Why is a Certification of Live Birth insufficient? Aeryn - 18/04/2011 08:43:34 PM 977 Views
because it's easier to push a non-issue than it is to work on something constructive i guess.... moondog - 19/04/2011 04:27:31 AM 855 Views
No, actually MalkierKnight - 19/04/2011 05:18:52 AM 1072 Views
Re: No, actually MalkierKnight - 19/04/2011 05:19:51 AM 1067 Views
Since when is religion hereditary? Aeryn - 19/04/2011 02:57:30 PM 1016 Views
Re: Since when is religion hereditary? MalkierKnight - 19/04/2011 03:10:27 PM 1019 Views
Re: Since when is religion hereditary? snoopcester - 19/04/2011 03:32:10 PM 1076 Views
I don't think it's as strong a claim as you make it out to be MalkierKnight - 19/04/2011 03:39:01 PM 1211 Views
I think it is for some people. snoopcester - 19/04/2011 03:55:45 PM 845 Views
how many previous presidents have had to prove their place of birth? moondog - 19/04/2011 04:34:42 PM 905 Views
with how many has it been in doubt? *NM* random thoughts - 19/04/2011 05:08:18 PM 471 Views
why doubt this one beyond all others? *NM* moondog - 19/04/2011 06:45:24 PM 418 Views
people always find some reason to doubt the legitimacy of a president they don't like random thoughts - 19/04/2011 09:01:33 PM 1051 Views
Brewer vetoes the bill! Skeeve the Great - 19/04/2011 02:31:50 AM 1112 Views
yay, she's not as much of a nutjob as i once thought she was! moondog - 19/04/2011 04:28:05 AM 996 Views
yes she is, don't let her fool you *NM* LadyLorraine - 19/04/2011 04:31:10 PM 391 Views
i didn't say she's not, just not as much as i thought before *NM* moondog - 19/04/2011 04:37:34 PM 426 Views
good. maybe they will move on to more important things *NM* random thoughts - 19/04/2011 02:41:34 PM 394 Views
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