because it's easier to push a non-issue than it is to work on something constructive i guess....
moondog Send a noteboard - 19/04/2011 04:27:31 AM
Or someone has admitted it's a valid concern?
If you're referring to the former then you're wrong. Obama has only ever produced a certification of live birth, which is not a birth certificate and significantly easier to obtain. In the state of hawaii these count for the same thing. however they are, strictly speaking, not the same. And this is so for a reason, I presume.
Again, not questioning it, I just think it's stupid not to put a rumor which is so easily quieted to rest.
If you're referring to the former then you're wrong. Obama has only ever produced a certification of live birth, which is not a birth certificate and significantly easier to obtain. In the state of hawaii these count for the same thing. however they are, strictly speaking, not the same. And this is so for a reason, I presume.
Again, not questioning it, I just think it's stupid not to put a rumor which is so easily quieted to rest.
Thanks for the link, but it didn't really help me understand why people consider a Certification of Live Birth insufficient proof. The link repeats many time that it is in fact a valid birth certificate.
i mean, if the supreme court, the federal election commission, most of both houses of congress, the US state department, and a host of other governmental agencies say he's a natural born citizen with a valid birth certificate, obviously that means we just haven't tried hard enough to disprove what thousands upon thousands of people have already verified...
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WTF arizona?
- 15/04/2011 04:28:19 PM
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I think it's more payback than anything else, what exactly are you objecting to anyway?
- 15/04/2011 04:46:17 PM
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Yeah, I'm going "wait, they didn't have to do that yet?" here as well.
- 15/04/2011 08:40:44 PM
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It is a bit of an oversight not to have that
- 15/04/2011 09:41:40 PM
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that's because they're morons.
- 16/04/2011 03:36:54 AM
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Re: that's because they're morons.
- 16/04/2011 04:27:04 AM
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I wouldn't ACTUALLY hunt boars with a boar spear, but that's because I'm too little
- 16/04/2011 04:44:14 AM
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it's the spirit, not the letter, of the law that i have a problem with
- 15/04/2011 10:19:27 PM
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Surprisingly, many politicians are mean-spirited
- 16/04/2011 02:31:37 AM
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if any of those examples were legislated by a state house, you'd have a stronger argument....
- 16/04/2011 07:23:49 AM
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I believe I gave you state examples already
- 16/04/2011 01:55:37 PM
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I call shenanigans on Seel
- 15/04/2011 04:48:48 PM
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really becasue Obama has already produced enough documents to clear this bar
- 17/04/2011 01:04:39 AM
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The article is wrong on one key point. Obama has not produced a birth certificate
- 15/04/2011 04:50:21 PM
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Yes he has. Don't act like a fool.
- 15/04/2011 05:02:58 PM
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sorry but it is not the same so don't act like a fool
- 15/04/2011 06:04:19 PM
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It's clear that he was born in the US.
- 15/04/2011 06:54:28 PM
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Care to point out where you believe I was defending them?
- 15/04/2011 07:37:39 PM
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You say that Obama hasn't produced a birth certificate, when he has.
- 15/04/2011 07:47:54 PM
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What exactly is the difference between certificates?
- 16/04/2011 12:13:04 AM
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One is the origianl document and one is a certificate created when it is requested.
- 17/04/2011 12:44:27 AM
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Then you need be be more clear because that is not what you said.
- 17/04/2011 03:14:03 AM
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Presumably you want his certificate of stillbirth as well?
- 16/04/2011 12:59:22 PM
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thanks for your contribution. They are all important no matter how small *NM*
- 17/04/2011 12:50:55 AM
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thanks for your contribution. They are all important no matter how small *NM*
- 17/04/2011 12:50:56 AM
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I wish the birthers would stop waste everyone's time and focus on actual policies of Obama's.
- 15/04/2011 04:59:01 PM
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Actually
- 15/04/2011 06:12:41 PM
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He already has
- 16/04/2011 07:41:43 AM
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I'm not referring to Obama. Just anyone who wants to be anyone in the future. *NM*
- 16/04/2011 02:01:25 PM
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Don't we already do this?
- 15/04/2011 06:24:29 PM
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He did produce his Certificate of Live Birth and was approved to run for President. Case closed.
- 16/04/2011 11:42:05 PM
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Re: I actually find the whole thing hilarious, and I hope it continues.
- 16/04/2011 01:33:34 AM
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What's the problem? Show your birth certficate, problem solved. *NM*
- 16/04/2011 03:32:37 AM
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problem was solved awhile ago when he produced his birth certificate. what are you holding onto? *NM*
- 16/04/2011 07:29:39 AM
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Perhaps he's responding to the actual post, and not talking about Obama this time? *NM*
- 16/04/2011 12:56:50 PM
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As per the Constitution, Congress already verifies eligibility. Of each President.
- 16/04/2011 03:36:06 PM
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Did you mean to reply to me or to the main post? *NM*
- 16/04/2011 03:44:38 PM
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You. Well, the trzaska subthread in general. Although it applies to the overall topic equally. *NM*
- 16/04/2011 03:53:38 PM
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Which is why I would think even if this law passes it will be tossed as it should.
- 16/04/2011 11:44:50 PM
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Supposedly the FEC only has jurisdiction over matters of campaign finance. *NM*
- 17/04/2011 03:24:39 AM
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as per you pulled that out of your ass
- 17/04/2011 01:16:15 AM
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Actually it wasn't my ass, it was an anti-Obama political blogging site's ass.
- 17/04/2011 03:56:35 AM
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not only is no one in charge of making sure the president meets all the qualifications
- 18/04/2011 02:51:16 AM
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To make things even more fun in this thread...
- 18/04/2011 03:50:43 AM
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I am not a birther, but WTF makes you a nutjob for this?
- 18/04/2011 08:40:15 AM
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read above, he has. *NM*
- 18/04/2011 02:47:25 PM
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Provided a birth certificate?
- 18/04/2011 02:51:56 PM
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Why is a Certification of Live Birth insufficient?
- 18/04/2011 08:43:34 PM
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because it's easier to push a non-issue than it is to work on something constructive i guess....
- 19/04/2011 04:27:31 AM
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No, actually
- 19/04/2011 05:18:52 AM
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Since when is religion hereditary?
- 19/04/2011 02:57:30 PM
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Re: Since when is religion hereditary?
- 19/04/2011 03:10:27 PM
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Re: Since when is religion hereditary?
- 19/04/2011 03:32:10 PM
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I don't think it's as strong a claim as you make it out to be
- 19/04/2011 03:39:01 PM
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how many previous presidents have had to prove their place of birth?
- 19/04/2011 04:34:42 PM
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with how many has it been in doubt? *NM*
- 19/04/2011 05:08:18 PM
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why doubt this one beyond all others? *NM*
- 19/04/2011 06:45:24 PM
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people always find some reason to doubt the legitimacy of a president they don't like
- 19/04/2011 09:01:33 PM
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Brewer vetoes the bill!
- 19/04/2011 02:31:50 AM
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yay, she's not as much of a nutjob as i once thought she was!
- 19/04/2011 04:28:05 AM
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yes she is, don't let her fool you 
*NM*
- 19/04/2011 04:31:10 PM
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*NM*
- 19/04/2011 04:31:10 PM
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i didn't say she's not, just not as much as i thought before 
*NM*
- 19/04/2011 04:37:34 PM
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*NM*
- 19/04/2011 04:37:34 PM
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