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Not really. It would have to be idiot proof. jh Send a noteboard - 09/05/2011 08:53:50 PM
A messageboard style that doesn't require the reader to click on every single response just to read them. Maybe a phpBB or vbulletin setup (phpBB is free!). That way each comment would be shown in full after the OP (dare I say like most "normal" messageboards or forums)... instead of the way comments are shown on our current tree-style boards, where you have to click on every single one of the damn comments to read it or else you can only see the title.

The debate was apparently old when I joined wotmania, and that was, like, seven years ago. An option seems the most fair and least intrusive solution, because that forces no one to view the board in a style they find inconveniently unwieldy. Perhaps more to the point, a nesting/pages OPTION is the probably the only way you and I will ever see the latter on RAFO, because nesting always has and probably always will be overwhelmingly preferred (by "overwhelmingly" I mean only 2% of responders wanted paged threads when I brought it up at wotmania). I'm used to the current style and don't begrudge it to those who find its idiosyncracies charming and familiar (and useful for subthreads/jacks), but worry it deters new members. Unless all the oldbies plan to stay around forever that's not a recipe for sustainability.

One that I can actually support. I by no means want to give up this style but if there can be an option that allows you to choose the "traditional" forum layout, than that would be stellar.


Replies in 'traditional' forum layouts tend to be replies to the entire thread due to the average users' inability to click the right 'reply to post' option; thereby essentially wrecking the whole subthread system, and in general making posts unreadable for people who do not use the flawed one-page system. I cannot think of a way to make it idiot proof, and given the nature of the internet, it has to be done before implementation, or it won't happen.
"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realize how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world" - Calvin.
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Wishlist - 09/05/2011 08:26:23 AM 5769 Views
Chat. - 09/05/2011 08:41:32 AM 1606 Views
seconded (the message content) *NM* - 09/05/2011 08:57:31 AM 804 Views
Hmm. - 09/05/2011 10:22:27 AM 1674 Views
I wondered if you remembered that. - 10/05/2011 12:04:31 AM 5218 Views
I thought we already had one - 09/05/2011 11:45:34 AM 1474 Views
That is essentially Goodreads. *NM* - 09/05/2011 02:42:06 PM 768 Views
Organisation - 09/05/2011 12:52:25 PM 1394 Views
Sort of. - 09/05/2011 01:09:12 PM 1177 Views
Excellent - 09/05/2011 02:57:35 PM 1279 Views
Also - 09/05/2011 01:59:35 PM 1366 Views
Re: Also - 09/05/2011 04:29:33 PM 1413 Views
Wotmania content (FAQ, Theory post, personality test, etc.) and Chat *NM* - 09/05/2011 02:53:08 PM 846 Views
Also agree here, at least where intellectual property isn't an issue. - 09/05/2011 06:41:27 PM 1401 Views
Nobody votes in those polls anyway. *NM* - 09/05/2011 07:09:23 PM 735 Views
149 people would disagree with you. - 09/05/2011 08:10:24 PM 1536 Views
Re: Wotmania content (FAQ, Theory post, personality test, etc.) and Chat - 22/07/2011 05:35:32 AM 1306 Views
Rules, Help, and Statistics? *NM* - 09/05/2011 05:50:25 PM 800 Views
+∞ - 09/05/2011 06:14:23 PM 1404 Views
Indeed. *NM* - 09/05/2011 08:00:06 PM 691 Views
+1 to statistics. I miss those, oddly enough. - 10/05/2011 05:14:26 PM 1387 Views
writer's board!!! pleeeese *NM* - 09/05/2011 06:26:28 PM 775 Views
A new messageboard style - 09/05/2011 06:49:10 PM 1658 Views
I hate other bulletin board styles. Hate. - 09/05/2011 06:55:31 PM 1563 Views
- 09/05/2011 07:14:56 PM 1450 Views
Well. I half agree with that. - 09/05/2011 08:35:41 PM 1487 Views
Help thing? - 09/05/2011 09:55:18 PM 1416 Views
Yes. The Help link on every page which currently goes nowhere. *NM* - 09/05/2011 10:21:09 PM 822 Views
Agreed. So very, very agreed. *NM* - 09/05/2011 07:59:18 PM 757 Views
phpBB has an "ignore" option - 09/05/2011 10:50:39 PM 2518 Views
The thing is its the fun awesome people who do the tangents - 09/05/2011 10:58:42 PM 1452 Views
1996 is over - 09/05/2011 11:52:48 PM 1320 Views
THe option to show posts with newest replies first allows for that - 09/05/2011 11:57:57 PM 1339 Views
a few things - 10/05/2011 12:05:50 AM 1298 Views
I'm surprised to have gotten this strong of a reaction - 10/05/2011 12:30:21 AM 1332 Views
For what it's worth - 10/05/2011 12:45:45 AM 1541 Views
Re: For what it's worth - 10/05/2011 08:29:08 AM 1364 Views
It's possible - 10/05/2011 11:45:26 AM 1447 Views
Re: It's possible - 10/05/2011 12:02:51 PM 1380 Views
No, I got it - 10/05/2011 01:03:59 PM 1337 Views
Re: No, I got it - 10/05/2011 01:14:01 PM 1462 Views
Re: No, I got it - 10/05/2011 04:42:57 PM 1343 Views
Re: No, I got it - 10/05/2011 04:52:06 PM 1340 Views
Yes - 10/05/2011 05:10:07 PM 1376 Views
This site has what, 10% or so percent of wotmania's activity in its heyday? - 10/05/2011 10:45:51 PM 1540 Views
Tell me, why are you still here? - 10/05/2011 10:48:44 PM 1327 Views
I don't know, sometimes - 10/05/2011 11:19:14 PM 1246 Views
I used to spend quite a lot of time on other sites. - 10/05/2011 12:14:09 PM 1374 Views
Which type of sites? - 10/05/2011 01:06:32 PM 1223 Views
Re: Which type of sites? - 12/05/2011 06:22:32 AM 1364 Views
My experience has been different - 12/05/2011 09:28:28 PM 1348 Views
The style is why this place is like it is - 10/05/2011 08:27:46 AM 1348 Views
Re: 1996 is over - 12/05/2011 06:15:57 AM 1352 Views
*NM* - 11/05/2011 06:36:55 AM 721 Views
I actually had no idea to whom this response was directed. - 11/05/2011 07:10:32 PM 1286 Views
A trick - 11/05/2011 08:20:31 PM 1437 Views
That does work, yeah; just forgot about it. *NM* - 11/05/2011 08:54:32 PM 708 Views
I very much agree. *NM* - 13/05/2011 10:33:28 PM 732 Views
I disagree here - 09/05/2011 06:58:40 PM 1310 Views
No. Just no. *NM* - 09/05/2011 08:02:16 PM 906 Views
I think forcing either style on anyone tends to discourage membership from those who want the other. - 09/05/2011 08:23:13 PM 1460 Views
This is a good alternative, - 09/05/2011 08:39:07 PM 1454 Views
Not really. It would have to be idiot proof. - 09/05/2011 08:53:50 PM 1243 Views
Thanks; you can't please everyone, but this seems like the closest we'll get. - 09/05/2011 10:25:00 PM 1722 Views
Nice assumption - 09/05/2011 10:32:35 PM 1328 Views
If it became a habit it would be annoying, yeah, but is there reason to think it would? - 10/05/2011 01:33:50 AM 1392 Views
Human nature - 10/05/2011 11:21:05 AM 1436 Views
If RAFO wants to attract new members.... - 09/05/2011 10:55:36 PM 1439 Views
You can guarantee a large amount of people will leave if that vile phpBB type board is introduced - 09/05/2011 11:01:43 PM 1445 Views
Yes - 09/05/2011 11:08:42 PM 1350 Views
I see it the opposite way - 10/05/2011 12:04:42 AM 1488 Views
Re: I see it the opposite way - 10/05/2011 12:31:19 AM 1262 Views
Valid points. - 10/05/2011 03:10:45 AM 1259 Views
I agree. - 27/05/2011 01:37:50 PM 1333 Views
While I agree with everyone who hates BB boards... - 16/05/2011 06:26:04 AM 1499 Views
I like the slider from nested to pages, yeah, thanks. - 16/05/2011 06:54:02 AM 1435 Views
Oh, my - 16/05/2011 07:10:17 AM 1519 Views
They're dumping the blue jerseys for home games. - 16/05/2011 07:49:04 AM 1416 Views
Re: They're dumping the blue jerseys for home games. - 16/05/2011 07:58:55 AM 1346 Views
Re: They're dumping the blue jerseys for home games. - 16/05/2011 09:22:44 PM 1474 Views
Re: They're dumping the blue jerseys for home games. - 18/05/2011 09:21:13 AM 1346 Views
I'd probably like it better if I weren't such an awful hitter. - 18/05/2011 11:20:06 PM 1390 Views
I can't throw, hit, or run - 21/05/2011 07:03:53 PM 1470 Views
I was sure I'd responded to this; sorry for the delay. - 22/07/2011 04:14:11 PM 1369 Views
I adore our set up. - 09/05/2011 11:05:34 PM 1405 Views
I feel a little less adoration =P - 10/05/2011 12:11:37 AM 1535 Views
see, and I think it enhances my appreciation of the posts. - 10/05/2011 12:15:21 AM 1285 Views
Explanation, please. - 10/05/2011 05:50:20 PM 1421 Views
This is my experience as well. *NM* - 10/05/2011 10:31:49 PM 621 Views
I love that there are many examples of why this board style is a good thing in this thread. - 10/05/2011 10:59:03 PM 1365 Views
it's a bug, not a feature - 11/05/2011 06:45:29 PM 1399 Views
More than 3 reasons. - 12/05/2011 06:37:59 AM 1332 Views
I hate weighing in on these arguments. But fine. - 12/05/2011 07:08:46 AM 1468 Views
Well put - 12/05/2011 08:20:18 AM 1492 Views
My filter is broken then. - 11/05/2011 09:02:07 AM 1314 Views
One comment that hasn't been raised yet. - 11/05/2011 10:41:25 PM 1392 Views
I agree, I hate this old MBstyle. Its time to leave the dark ages. *NM* - 13/05/2011 03:01:50 PM 751 Views
Your brain is just addled by hormones. - 13/05/2011 03:14:27 PM 1340 Views
Hva addled hjernen min? - 13/05/2011 04:36:14 PM 1349 Views
Re: Hva addled hjernen min? - 13/05/2011 05:03:19 PM 1359 Views
Jeg tenkte så. - 13/05/2011 05:55:08 PM 1435 Views
Du er amerikaner - 13/05/2011 06:21:39 PM 1345 Views
Du er slem. - 13/05/2011 08:50:37 PM 1459 Views
You must be new here. - 29/05/2011 06:57:19 AM 1412 Views
Acknowledgement of me as your ruler *NM* - 09/05/2011 07:12:31 PM 716 Views
I'd be happy to carve equally spaced lines into you. - 09/05/2011 07:16:37 PM 1364 Views
I actually did laugh out loud at that one - 10/05/2011 04:00:24 PM 1456 Views
"JESUS is our only ruler!" - 10/05/2011 03:00:01 AM 1181 Views
Are you suggesting Ben is the second coming? *NM* - 10/05/2011 01:16:17 PM 770 Views
He's the harbinger. - 11/05/2011 05:32:19 PM 1366 Views
IRV is terrible, and is the worst option other than FPTP - 10/05/2011 06:07:27 PM 1289 Views
But Borda isn't Condorcet complete either. - 11/05/2011 08:45:05 AM 1419 Views
Hm. Coulda sworn it was. My mistake. - 11/05/2011 11:43:43 PM 1369 Views
NP, happens. - 12/05/2011 01:09:18 AM 1350 Views
Smiley Reduction/Alteration? - 09/05/2011 07:30:25 PM 1138 Views
Also with quotes and close brackets. <---- This is WEIRD. - 09/05/2011 07:34:13 PM 1300 Views
That is quite possibly my biggest annoyance with the whole site. - 09/05/2011 07:40:48 PM 1253 Views
complete agreement - 09/05/2011 10:58:32 PM 1191 Views
Re: Also with quotes and close brackets. <---- This is WEIRD. - 10/05/2011 02:53:50 AM 1345 Views
My name is Tom and I approve these suggestions. - 10/05/2011 02:14:33 PM 1337 Views
How about a music MB? - 09/05/2011 08:00:33 PM 1388 Views
I think it wouldn't be used much. - 09/05/2011 08:08:52 PM 1335 Views
Yeah a post on the Com MB every other week works just fine. *NM* - 09/05/2011 08:16:49 PM 756 Views
Or turn the TV & Movie board into a pop culture board we'd just need to get rid of the rubbish admin - 09/05/2011 09:13:41 PM 1448 Views
Stop being a brat! - 09/05/2011 09:57:35 PM 1454 Views
But it is Jens! - 09/05/2011 10:16:23 PM 1393 Views
aka Best admin ever. - 09/05/2011 10:28:40 PM 1304 Views
aka Best admin ever. - 09/05/2011 10:28:40 PM 1267 Views
No, just the most double posting one - 09/05/2011 10:29:54 PM 1429 Views
Yup, sorry other admins. - 10/05/2011 01:42:45 AM 1435 Views
"Oh. my. fucking. god." - 09/05/2011 10:29:17 PM 1443 Views
Re: I think it wouldn't be used much. - 09/05/2011 08:36:05 PM 1358 Views
i agree - 10/05/2011 02:58:52 PM 1295 Views
Re: i agree - 10/05/2011 03:56:36 PM 1091 Views
Also - 10/05/2011 03:58:56 PM 1367 Views
collapsing of extended thread nests - 09/05/2011 11:09:23 PM 1322 Views
^This. *NM* - 12/05/2011 07:45:46 PM 756 Views
Thirded *NM* - 27/05/2011 01:39:44 PM 704 Views
Quick question, how many users are registered here? *NM* - 10/05/2011 01:38:37 AM 1559 Views
I think the search page User List gives a good estimate (~725 total, counts/MB inside). - 10/05/2011 02:44:50 AM 1436 Views
It doesn't - 13/05/2011 10:29:32 AM 1440 Views
PINK!! - 10/05/2011 03:27:35 AM 1357 Views
Anyone else notice that everyone replying participates on the book, tv + movies and comm boards - 10/05/2011 02:18:08 PM 1380 Views
Indeed. *NM* - 10/05/2011 03:53:23 PM 683 Views
It doesn't help that we make them feel like a blemish on the RAFO scene. - 10/05/2011 04:45:33 PM 1354 Views
But they are - 10/05/2011 04:53:26 PM 1310 Views
I agree. - 10/05/2011 11:10:03 PM 1443 Views
I've seen most people who've replied post on the WoTMB at least occasionally. - 11/05/2011 11:26:44 PM 1376 Views
You are clearly wrong. - 12/05/2011 04:58:34 PM 1148 Views
Its prime ended before the split? Bah, you old geezers always hassle us kids for livin' our life! - 12/05/2011 07:32:02 PM 1358 Views
Nah. - 16/05/2011 08:32:39 PM 1333 Views
Hard to imagine what that must've been like. - 18/05/2011 11:04:57 PM 1392 Views
Report post, moderation powers to all boards, spoiler tags, NM bug, bug submitter's name displayed. - 10/05/2011 05:59:58 PM 1171 Views
I disagree - 10/05/2011 10:34:54 PM 1397 Views
Re: your suggestions - 10/05/2011 11:03:00 PM 1217 Views
Re: your suggestions - 11/05/2011 01:37:34 AM 1395 Views
Re: your suggestions - 11/05/2011 08:24:38 AM 1183 Views
It's just that... - 11/05/2011 06:04:46 PM 1306 Views
Agreed on all points *NM* - 11/05/2011 05:54:52 PM 721 Views
Whoa. You can change quote styles? News to me. *NM* - 11/05/2011 10:02:10 PM 704 Views
It's all there, in the help section at the top of the board. - 12/05/2011 04:50:44 PM 1256 Views
Shush, you. *NM* - 13/05/2011 08:56:05 AM 723 Views
The next time we meet up - 13/05/2011 09:19:01 AM 1307 Views
Anything would be better than nothing. - 13/05/2011 05:48:03 PM 1343 Views
Regarding the forum style - 10/05/2011 11:17:50 PM 1678 Views
+3 *NM* - 10/05/2011 11:35:10 PM 736 Views
Look here! - 11/05/2011 01:25:25 AM 1284 Views
+100 *NM* - 11/05/2011 01:59:30 AM 639 Views
I think that sounds like an excellent middle ground! *NM* - 11/05/2011 04:22:12 AM 719 Views
I agree with the agreement. - 11/05/2011 05:02:44 AM 4383 Views
That sounds an acceptable compromise to me - 11/05/2011 05:32:43 PM 1252 Views
Just an observation/question about post-clicking - 11/05/2011 05:42:30 PM 1364 Views
Re: Just an observation/question about post-clicking - 11/05/2011 06:06:24 PM 1410 Views
Yes. Though it's not just laziness. - 11/05/2011 06:20:50 PM 1209 Views
It's more than laziness, yes. - 11/05/2011 07:53:52 PM 1335 Views
Try laying off the refresh button if you can help it. *NM* - 11/05/2011 08:52:56 PM 759 Views
It's a high - 11/05/2011 10:28:02 PM 1141 Views
Sorry, internet keeps disconnecting when I hit "submit". - 11/05/2011 11:31:52 PM 1384 Views
I was mostly being a smart-ass about the laziness thing. - 12/05/2011 05:16:40 PM 1290 Views
Cool. - 12/05/2011 07:20:49 PM 1312 Views
I used to have to do that - 16/05/2011 08:26:47 AM 1953 Views
Yeah, that sounds familiar. - 16/05/2011 09:15:56 PM 1377 Views
Active Users: 51 - 11/05/2011 01:19:25 AM 1355 Views
Also - 11/05/2011 04:36:17 AM 1396 Views
OoOoo... I like this. *NM* - 11/05/2011 06:25:20 AM 732 Views
Re: Active Users: 51 - 14/06/2011 12:11:43 AM 1261 Views
I wonder if there is a way to make the Search function work... - 11/05/2011 09:56:54 AM 1258 Views
There is an easy fix for that. - 11/05/2011 06:09:10 PM 1354 Views
It's less about mistakes... - 12/05/2011 08:31:59 AM 1302 Views
- 12/05/2011 10:27:57 AM 1330 Views
Yusssss!!1! *NM* - 12/05/2011 09:58:53 PM 697 Views
An option to not have to see those damn smileys - 11/05/2011 02:24:47 PM 1404 Views
Another thing! - 11/05/2011 05:35:10 PM 1327 Views
For the Quickpolls - 11/05/2011 10:22:23 PM 1320 Views
Good idea. - 11/05/2011 11:30:41 PM 1362 Views
Writing page Writing page WRITING PAGE! *NM* - 12/05/2011 01:15:32 AM 776 Views
Links in posts - can they not take us to a new page but to a new tab/window, please? - 12/05/2011 05:49:23 PM 1372 Views
Happens in Chrome and Firefox, too. *NM* - 12/05/2011 06:13:20 PM 724 Views
It's not, but a simple right-click and select "Open in new tab" does the job in FF, at least. - 12/05/2011 10:40:27 PM 1375 Views
Clicking links with your scroll wheel opens them in a new tab. *NM* - 12/05/2011 11:32:29 PM 750 Views
As does CTRL-click. *NM* - 13/05/2011 07:14:56 AM 972 Views
I'd like to know when the last post in a thread was. - 13/05/2011 01:14:02 AM 1359 Views
Like back on wotmania? - 13/05/2011 09:02:33 AM 1304 Views
More references of MGB being the badass he is. *NM* - 13/05/2011 04:57:59 AM 770 Views
some kind of "reply all" feature? - 13/05/2011 06:35:15 AM 1356 Views
Two things: facebook and searching within a post - 13/05/2011 03:07:37 PM 1362 Views
I agree. Not the facebook nonsense, but... - 13/05/2011 03:15:24 PM 1376 Views
+1, especially the FB part. - 13/05/2011 04:46:05 PM 1207 Views
I can add a comment for Facebook liking. - 13/05/2011 06:48:16 PM 1585 Views
Maybe it's another IE vs. Firefox thing. - 13/05/2011 08:52:53 PM 1444 Views
I use chrome - 13/05/2011 09:47:06 PM 1270 Views
Also, re: quickpoll - 15/05/2011 04:18:04 PM 1297 Views
and I'd love to be able to "like" it to facebook *NM* - 15/05/2011 04:55:46 PM 685 Views
Ick... you said the f-word. *NM* - 15/05/2011 08:23:16 PM 714 Views
We have to. - 15/05/2011 08:37:01 PM 1343 Views
Make me an Admin! - 13/05/2011 04:17:59 PM 1380 Views
Of what, exactly? You have no discernible skills beside account corruption. *NM* - 13/05/2011 06:27:51 PM 792 Views
I demand silence from the peanut gallery! *NM* - 15/05/2011 02:25:52 AM 698 Views
~silence granted, throws peanuts~ *NM* - 15/05/2011 07:39:50 PM 661 Views
OFF with your HEAD! *NM* - 16/05/2011 08:06:27 PM 659 Views
Since I don't think anyone else has mentioned it here - HTML - 15/05/2011 09:00:39 PM 1469 Views
Mapthis made something like this. - 15/05/2011 09:25:59 PM 1230 Views
He did. I'd forgotten that - 15/05/2011 09:27:39 PM 1331 Views
WYSIWYG! *NM* - 27/05/2011 02:25:49 PM 736 Views
is inherently evil. *NM* - 27/05/2011 02:40:51 PM 647 Views
...and yet inherently accessible to the non-geek masses - 30/05/2011 02:34:58 AM 1312 Views
As I said... - 30/05/2011 08:55:32 AM 1333 Views
A redesigned home page! - 22/05/2011 04:26:27 AM 1345 Views
This isn't particularly helpful. - 30/05/2011 11:28:46 PM 1408 Views
I'm helpful - 04/07/2011 12:40:08 PM 1413 Views
Mobile version *NM* - 02/06/2011 12:42:25 AM 759 Views
Make quote options more prominent - 13/06/2011 02:21:36 PM 1245 Views
The ability to block someone on a certain board? - 17/06/2011 06:48:41 PM 1323 Views
I would like notification when a premium account downgrades - 18/06/2011 10:42:56 AM 1406 Views
We've already got the Facebook "Like" button, however - 26/06/2011 12:06:51 AM 1343 Views
Unhh... Privacy statement? - 19/07/2011 06:14:49 PM 1237 Views
"Rules" would be a better place, IMHO; we're told at least one of those links should soon work. - 22/07/2011 04:08:54 PM 1264 Views
Thanks for the response / comment, Josh - 23/07/2011 08:59:02 AM 1195 Views
I assume it just means people are too busy working on the site to answer immediately. - 23/07/2011 02:06:48 PM 1237 Views
or at all? - 02/08/2011 12:44:15 PM 1337 Views
Hey, you're preaching to the choir on that one. - 02/08/2011 01:40:43 PM 1455 Views
Admins should be able to move Posts into an already existing thread - 20/07/2011 02:52:05 PM 1277 Views
+1. *NM* - 20/07/2011 03:29:57 PM 659 Views
the ability to empty your outbox - 30/07/2011 04:19:17 PM 1334 Views

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