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Thanks; you can't please everyone, but this seems like the closest we'll get. Joel Send a noteboard - 09/05/2011 10:25:00 PM
A messageboard style that doesn't require the reader to click on every single response just to read them. Maybe a phpBB or vbulletin setup (phpBB is free!). That way each comment would be shown in full after the OP (dare I say like most "normal" messageboards or forums)... instead of the way comments are shown on our current tree-style boards, where you have to click on every single one of the damn comments to read it or else you can only see the title.

The debate was apparently old when I joined wotmania, and that was, like, seven years ago. An option seems the most fair and least intrusive solution, because that forces no one to view the board in a style they find inconveniently unwieldy. Perhaps more to the point, a nesting/pages OPTION is the probably the only way you and I will ever see the latter on RAFO, because nesting always has and probably always will be overwhelmingly preferred (by "overwhelmingly" I mean only 2% of responders wanted paged threads when I brought it up at wotmania). I'm used to the current style and don't begrudge it to those who find its idiosyncracies charming and familiar (and useful for subthreads/jacks), but worry it deters new members. Unless all the oldbies plan to stay around forever that's not a recipe for sustainability.

One that I can actually support. I by no means want to give up this style but if there can be an option that allows you to choose the "traditional" forum layout, than that would be stellar.

Though I prefer pages, I'd never want the vast majority of long time members to lose a highly valued distinctive feature.

Responding to the concerns raised: Idiot proofing anything is impossible, because the cutting edge of idiocy is perversely always ahead of intelligence. That said, people ALREADY manage to reply in the wrong spot, yet we and our discussions endure. It's not that hard to figure out what happened and adjust (which is fortunate since, once again, we have to do it periodically anyway). The main difference is that it would be far easier to respond to multiple replies within a single post (dramatically reducing my post quantity if not its bandwidth :P) and there'd be a lot less threads with a dozen virtually identical replies because people don't click all 50 posts before responding to the main thread.
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Wishlist - 09/05/2011 08:26:23 AM 5703 Views
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seconded (the message content) *NM* - 09/05/2011 08:57:31 AM 769 Views
Hmm. - 09/05/2011 10:22:27 AM 1614 Views
I wondered if you remembered that. - 10/05/2011 12:04:31 AM 5150 Views
I thought we already had one - 09/05/2011 11:45:34 AM 1413 Views
That is essentially Goodreads. *NM* - 09/05/2011 02:42:06 PM 726 Views
Organisation - 09/05/2011 12:52:25 PM 1330 Views
Sort of. - 09/05/2011 01:09:12 PM 1113 Views
Excellent - 09/05/2011 02:57:35 PM 1221 Views
Also - 09/05/2011 01:59:35 PM 1304 Views
Re: Also - 09/05/2011 04:29:33 PM 1349 Views
Wotmania content (FAQ, Theory post, personality test, etc.) and Chat *NM* - 09/05/2011 02:53:08 PM 814 Views
Also agree here, at least where intellectual property isn't an issue. - 09/05/2011 06:41:27 PM 1330 Views
Nobody votes in those polls anyway. *NM* - 09/05/2011 07:09:23 PM 705 Views
149 people would disagree with you. - 09/05/2011 08:10:24 PM 1478 Views
Re: Wotmania content (FAQ, Theory post, personality test, etc.) and Chat - 22/07/2011 05:35:32 AM 1244 Views
Rules, Help, and Statistics? *NM* - 09/05/2011 05:50:25 PM 765 Views
+∞ - 09/05/2011 06:14:23 PM 1347 Views
Indeed. *NM* - 09/05/2011 08:00:06 PM 654 Views
+1 to statistics. I miss those, oddly enough. - 10/05/2011 05:14:26 PM 1328 Views
writer's board!!! pleeeese *NM* - 09/05/2011 06:26:28 PM 743 Views
A new messageboard style - 09/05/2011 06:49:10 PM 1589 Views
I hate other bulletin board styles. Hate. - 09/05/2011 06:55:31 PM 1496 Views
- 09/05/2011 07:14:56 PM 1393 Views
Well. I half agree with that. - 09/05/2011 08:35:41 PM 1420 Views
Help thing? - 09/05/2011 09:55:18 PM 1349 Views
Yes. The Help link on every page which currently goes nowhere. *NM* - 09/05/2011 10:21:09 PM 787 Views
Agreed. So very, very agreed. *NM* - 09/05/2011 07:59:18 PM 726 Views
phpBB has an "ignore" option - 09/05/2011 10:50:39 PM 2458 Views
The thing is its the fun awesome people who do the tangents - 09/05/2011 10:58:42 PM 1391 Views
1996 is over - 09/05/2011 11:52:48 PM 1256 Views
THe option to show posts with newest replies first allows for that - 09/05/2011 11:57:57 PM 1274 Views
a few things - 10/05/2011 12:05:50 AM 1236 Views
I'm surprised to have gotten this strong of a reaction - 10/05/2011 12:30:21 AM 1269 Views
For what it's worth - 10/05/2011 12:45:45 AM 1476 Views
Re: For what it's worth - 10/05/2011 08:29:08 AM 1306 Views
It's possible - 10/05/2011 11:45:26 AM 1381 Views
Re: It's possible - 10/05/2011 12:02:51 PM 1316 Views
No, I got it - 10/05/2011 01:03:59 PM 1279 Views
Re: No, I got it - 10/05/2011 01:14:01 PM 1393 Views
Re: No, I got it - 10/05/2011 04:42:57 PM 1281 Views
Re: No, I got it - 10/05/2011 04:52:06 PM 1273 Views
Yes - 10/05/2011 05:10:07 PM 1316 Views
This site has what, 10% or so percent of wotmania's activity in its heyday? - 10/05/2011 10:45:51 PM 1479 Views
Tell me, why are you still here? - 10/05/2011 10:48:44 PM 1267 Views
I don't know, sometimes - 10/05/2011 11:19:14 PM 1187 Views
I used to spend quite a lot of time on other sites. - 10/05/2011 12:14:09 PM 1319 Views
Which type of sites? - 10/05/2011 01:06:32 PM 1167 Views
Re: Which type of sites? - 12/05/2011 06:22:32 AM 1301 Views
My experience has been different - 12/05/2011 09:28:28 PM 1297 Views
The style is why this place is like it is - 10/05/2011 08:27:46 AM 1282 Views
Re: 1996 is over - 12/05/2011 06:15:57 AM 1295 Views
*NM* - 11/05/2011 06:36:55 AM 688 Views
I actually had no idea to whom this response was directed. - 11/05/2011 07:10:32 PM 1226 Views
A trick - 11/05/2011 08:20:31 PM 1377 Views
That does work, yeah; just forgot about it. *NM* - 11/05/2011 08:54:32 PM 678 Views
I very much agree. *NM* - 13/05/2011 10:33:28 PM 705 Views
I disagree here - 09/05/2011 06:58:40 PM 1256 Views
No. Just no. *NM* - 09/05/2011 08:02:16 PM 881 Views
I think forcing either style on anyone tends to discourage membership from those who want the other. - 09/05/2011 08:23:13 PM 1377 Views
This is a good alternative, - 09/05/2011 08:39:07 PM 1392 Views
Not really. It would have to be idiot proof. - 09/05/2011 08:53:50 PM 1177 Views
Thanks; you can't please everyone, but this seems like the closest we'll get. - 09/05/2011 10:25:00 PM 1660 Views
Nice assumption - 09/05/2011 10:32:35 PM 1262 Views
If it became a habit it would be annoying, yeah, but is there reason to think it would? - 10/05/2011 01:33:50 AM 1319 Views
Human nature - 10/05/2011 11:21:05 AM 1370 Views
If RAFO wants to attract new members.... - 09/05/2011 10:55:36 PM 1367 Views
You can guarantee a large amount of people will leave if that vile phpBB type board is introduced - 09/05/2011 11:01:43 PM 1384 Views
Yes - 09/05/2011 11:08:42 PM 1289 Views
I see it the opposite way - 10/05/2011 12:04:42 AM 1422 Views
Re: I see it the opposite way - 10/05/2011 12:31:19 AM 1206 Views
Valid points. - 10/05/2011 03:10:45 AM 1208 Views
I agree. - 27/05/2011 01:37:50 PM 1277 Views
While I agree with everyone who hates BB boards... - 16/05/2011 06:26:04 AM 1427 Views
I like the slider from nested to pages, yeah, thanks. - 16/05/2011 06:54:02 AM 1382 Views
Oh, my - 16/05/2011 07:10:17 AM 1456 Views
They're dumping the blue jerseys for home games. - 16/05/2011 07:49:04 AM 1360 Views
Re: They're dumping the blue jerseys for home games. - 16/05/2011 07:58:55 AM 1290 Views
Re: They're dumping the blue jerseys for home games. - 16/05/2011 09:22:44 PM 1414 Views
Re: They're dumping the blue jerseys for home games. - 18/05/2011 09:21:13 AM 1285 Views
I'd probably like it better if I weren't such an awful hitter. - 18/05/2011 11:20:06 PM 1322 Views
I can't throw, hit, or run - 21/05/2011 07:03:53 PM 1410 Views
I was sure I'd responded to this; sorry for the delay. - 22/07/2011 04:14:11 PM 1313 Views
I adore our set up. - 09/05/2011 11:05:34 PM 1338 Views
I feel a little less adoration =P - 10/05/2011 12:11:37 AM 1464 Views
see, and I think it enhances my appreciation of the posts. - 10/05/2011 12:15:21 AM 1230 Views
Explanation, please. - 10/05/2011 05:50:20 PM 1367 Views
This is my experience as well. *NM* - 10/05/2011 10:31:49 PM 596 Views
I love that there are many examples of why this board style is a good thing in this thread. - 10/05/2011 10:59:03 PM 1306 Views
it's a bug, not a feature - 11/05/2011 06:45:29 PM 1335 Views
More than 3 reasons. - 12/05/2011 06:37:59 AM 1276 Views
I hate weighing in on these arguments. But fine. - 12/05/2011 07:08:46 AM 1406 Views
Well put - 12/05/2011 08:20:18 AM 1413 Views
My filter is broken then. - 11/05/2011 09:02:07 AM 1259 Views
One comment that hasn't been raised yet. - 11/05/2011 10:41:25 PM 1333 Views
I agree, I hate this old MBstyle. Its time to leave the dark ages. *NM* - 13/05/2011 03:01:50 PM 721 Views
Your brain is just addled by hormones. - 13/05/2011 03:14:27 PM 1282 Views
Hva addled hjernen min? - 13/05/2011 04:36:14 PM 1292 Views
Re: Hva addled hjernen min? - 13/05/2011 05:03:19 PM 1303 Views
Jeg tenkte så. - 13/05/2011 05:55:08 PM 1377 Views
Du er amerikaner - 13/05/2011 06:21:39 PM 1284 Views
Du er slem. - 13/05/2011 08:50:37 PM 1393 Views
You must be new here. - 29/05/2011 06:57:19 AM 1345 Views
Acknowledgement of me as your ruler *NM* - 09/05/2011 07:12:31 PM 689 Views
I'd be happy to carve equally spaced lines into you. - 09/05/2011 07:16:37 PM 1307 Views
I actually did laugh out loud at that one - 10/05/2011 04:00:24 PM 1395 Views
"JESUS is our only ruler!" - 10/05/2011 03:00:01 AM 1122 Views
Are you suggesting Ben is the second coming? *NM* - 10/05/2011 01:16:17 PM 741 Views
He's the harbinger. - 11/05/2011 05:32:19 PM 1306 Views
IRV is terrible, and is the worst option other than FPTP - 10/05/2011 06:07:27 PM 1232 Views
But Borda isn't Condorcet complete either. - 11/05/2011 08:45:05 AM 1343 Views
Hm. Coulda sworn it was. My mistake. - 11/05/2011 11:43:43 PM 1295 Views
NP, happens. - 12/05/2011 01:09:18 AM 1290 Views
Smiley Reduction/Alteration? - 09/05/2011 07:30:25 PM 1082 Views
Also with quotes and close brackets. <---- This is WEIRD. - 09/05/2011 07:34:13 PM 1246 Views
That is quite possibly my biggest annoyance with the whole site. - 09/05/2011 07:40:48 PM 1188 Views
complete agreement - 09/05/2011 10:58:32 PM 1125 Views
Re: Also with quotes and close brackets. <---- This is WEIRD. - 10/05/2011 02:53:50 AM 1296 Views
My name is Tom and I approve these suggestions. - 10/05/2011 02:14:33 PM 1281 Views
How about a music MB? - 09/05/2011 08:00:33 PM 1341 Views
I think it wouldn't be used much. - 09/05/2011 08:08:52 PM 1280 Views
Yeah a post on the Com MB every other week works just fine. *NM* - 09/05/2011 08:16:49 PM 724 Views
Or turn the TV & Movie board into a pop culture board we'd just need to get rid of the rubbish admin - 09/05/2011 09:13:41 PM 1391 Views
Stop being a brat! - 09/05/2011 09:57:35 PM 1392 Views
But it is Jens! - 09/05/2011 10:16:23 PM 1335 Views
aka Best admin ever. - 09/05/2011 10:28:40 PM 1246 Views
aka Best admin ever. - 09/05/2011 10:28:40 PM 1200 Views
No, just the most double posting one - 09/05/2011 10:29:54 PM 1372 Views
Yup, sorry other admins. - 10/05/2011 01:42:45 AM 1377 Views
"Oh. my. fucking. god." - 09/05/2011 10:29:17 PM 1386 Views
Re: I think it wouldn't be used much. - 09/05/2011 08:36:05 PM 1296 Views
i agree - 10/05/2011 02:58:52 PM 1221 Views
Re: i agree - 10/05/2011 03:56:36 PM 1036 Views
Also - 10/05/2011 03:58:56 PM 1302 Views
collapsing of extended thread nests - 09/05/2011 11:09:23 PM 1267 Views
^This. *NM* - 12/05/2011 07:45:46 PM 723 Views
Thirded *NM* - 27/05/2011 01:39:44 PM 672 Views
Quick question, how many users are registered here? *NM* - 10/05/2011 01:38:37 AM 1532 Views
I think the search page User List gives a good estimate (~725 total, counts/MB inside). - 10/05/2011 02:44:50 AM 1383 Views
It doesn't - 13/05/2011 10:29:32 AM 1387 Views
PINK!! - 10/05/2011 03:27:35 AM 1297 Views
Anyone else notice that everyone replying participates on the book, tv + movies and comm boards - 10/05/2011 02:18:08 PM 1328 Views
Indeed. *NM* - 10/05/2011 03:53:23 PM 655 Views
It doesn't help that we make them feel like a blemish on the RAFO scene. - 10/05/2011 04:45:33 PM 1286 Views
But they are - 10/05/2011 04:53:26 PM 1256 Views
I agree. - 10/05/2011 11:10:03 PM 1384 Views
I've seen most people who've replied post on the WoTMB at least occasionally. - 11/05/2011 11:26:44 PM 1320 Views
You are clearly wrong. - 12/05/2011 04:58:34 PM 1089 Views
Its prime ended before the split? Bah, you old geezers always hassle us kids for livin' our life! - 12/05/2011 07:32:02 PM 1300 Views
Nah. - 16/05/2011 08:32:39 PM 1275 Views
Hard to imagine what that must've been like. - 18/05/2011 11:04:57 PM 1328 Views
Report post, moderation powers to all boards, spoiler tags, NM bug, bug submitter's name displayed. - 10/05/2011 05:59:58 PM 1114 Views
I disagree - 10/05/2011 10:34:54 PM 1340 Views
Re: your suggestions - 10/05/2011 11:03:00 PM 1162 Views
Re: your suggestions - 11/05/2011 01:37:34 AM 1328 Views
Re: your suggestions - 11/05/2011 08:24:38 AM 1113 Views
It's just that... - 11/05/2011 06:04:46 PM 1238 Views
Agreed on all points *NM* - 11/05/2011 05:54:52 PM 689 Views
Whoa. You can change quote styles? News to me. *NM* - 11/05/2011 10:02:10 PM 675 Views
It's all there, in the help section at the top of the board. - 12/05/2011 04:50:44 PM 1197 Views
Shush, you. *NM* - 13/05/2011 08:56:05 AM 693 Views
The next time we meet up - 13/05/2011 09:19:01 AM 1242 Views
Anything would be better than nothing. - 13/05/2011 05:48:03 PM 1274 Views
Regarding the forum style - 10/05/2011 11:17:50 PM 1629 Views
+3 *NM* - 10/05/2011 11:35:10 PM 706 Views
Look here! - 11/05/2011 01:25:25 AM 1219 Views
+100 *NM* - 11/05/2011 01:59:30 AM 611 Views
I think that sounds like an excellent middle ground! *NM* - 11/05/2011 04:22:12 AM 692 Views
I agree with the agreement. - 11/05/2011 05:02:44 AM 4280 Views
That sounds an acceptable compromise to me - 11/05/2011 05:32:43 PM 1186 Views
Just an observation/question about post-clicking - 11/05/2011 05:42:30 PM 1290 Views
Re: Just an observation/question about post-clicking - 11/05/2011 06:06:24 PM 1349 Views
Yes. Though it's not just laziness. - 11/05/2011 06:20:50 PM 1154 Views
It's more than laziness, yes. - 11/05/2011 07:53:52 PM 1273 Views
Try laying off the refresh button if you can help it. *NM* - 11/05/2011 08:52:56 PM 729 Views
It's a high - 11/05/2011 10:28:02 PM 1081 Views
Sorry, internet keeps disconnecting when I hit "submit". - 11/05/2011 11:31:52 PM 1324 Views
I was mostly being a smart-ass about the laziness thing. - 12/05/2011 05:16:40 PM 1226 Views
Cool. - 12/05/2011 07:20:49 PM 1255 Views
I used to have to do that - 16/05/2011 08:26:47 AM 1889 Views
Yeah, that sounds familiar. - 16/05/2011 09:15:56 PM 1306 Views
Active Users: 51 - 11/05/2011 01:19:25 AM 1283 Views
Also - 11/05/2011 04:36:17 AM 1332 Views
OoOoo... I like this. *NM* - 11/05/2011 06:25:20 AM 701 Views
Re: Active Users: 51 - 14/06/2011 12:11:43 AM 1194 Views
I wonder if there is a way to make the Search function work... - 11/05/2011 09:56:54 AM 1199 Views
There is an easy fix for that. - 11/05/2011 06:09:10 PM 1297 Views
It's less about mistakes... - 12/05/2011 08:31:59 AM 1248 Views
- 12/05/2011 10:27:57 AM 1271 Views
Yusssss!!1! *NM* - 12/05/2011 09:58:53 PM 674 Views
An option to not have to see those damn smileys - 11/05/2011 02:24:47 PM 1348 Views
Another thing! - 11/05/2011 05:35:10 PM 1264 Views
For the Quickpolls - 11/05/2011 10:22:23 PM 1250 Views
Good idea. - 11/05/2011 11:30:41 PM 1307 Views
Writing page Writing page WRITING PAGE! *NM* - 12/05/2011 01:15:32 AM 744 Views
Links in posts - can they not take us to a new page but to a new tab/window, please? - 12/05/2011 05:49:23 PM 1300 Views
Happens in Chrome and Firefox, too. *NM* - 12/05/2011 06:13:20 PM 694 Views
It's not, but a simple right-click and select "Open in new tab" does the job in FF, at least. - 12/05/2011 10:40:27 PM 1310 Views
Clicking links with your scroll wheel opens them in a new tab. *NM* - 12/05/2011 11:32:29 PM 709 Views
As does CTRL-click. *NM* - 13/05/2011 07:14:56 AM 942 Views
I'd like to know when the last post in a thread was. - 13/05/2011 01:14:02 AM 1297 Views
Like back on wotmania? - 13/05/2011 09:02:33 AM 1236 Views
More references of MGB being the badass he is. *NM* - 13/05/2011 04:57:59 AM 731 Views
some kind of "reply all" feature? - 13/05/2011 06:35:15 AM 1296 Views
Two things: facebook and searching within a post - 13/05/2011 03:07:37 PM 1300 Views
I agree. Not the facebook nonsense, but... - 13/05/2011 03:15:24 PM 1312 Views
+1, especially the FB part. - 13/05/2011 04:46:05 PM 1143 Views
I can add a comment for Facebook liking. - 13/05/2011 06:48:16 PM 1518 Views
Maybe it's another IE vs. Firefox thing. - 13/05/2011 08:52:53 PM 1364 Views
I use chrome - 13/05/2011 09:47:06 PM 1210 Views
Also, re: quickpoll - 15/05/2011 04:18:04 PM 1232 Views
and I'd love to be able to "like" it to facebook *NM* - 15/05/2011 04:55:46 PM 658 Views
Ick... you said the f-word. *NM* - 15/05/2011 08:23:16 PM 690 Views
We have to. - 15/05/2011 08:37:01 PM 1278 Views
Make me an Admin! - 13/05/2011 04:17:59 PM 1319 Views
Of what, exactly? You have no discernible skills beside account corruption. *NM* - 13/05/2011 06:27:51 PM 761 Views
I demand silence from the peanut gallery! *NM* - 15/05/2011 02:25:52 AM 669 Views
~silence granted, throws peanuts~ *NM* - 15/05/2011 07:39:50 PM 633 Views
OFF with your HEAD! *NM* - 16/05/2011 08:06:27 PM 635 Views
Since I don't think anyone else has mentioned it here - HTML - 15/05/2011 09:00:39 PM 1407 Views
Mapthis made something like this. - 15/05/2011 09:25:59 PM 1166 Views
He did. I'd forgotten that - 15/05/2011 09:27:39 PM 1259 Views
WYSIWYG! *NM* - 27/05/2011 02:25:49 PM 707 Views
is inherently evil. *NM* - 27/05/2011 02:40:51 PM 614 Views
...and yet inherently accessible to the non-geek masses - 30/05/2011 02:34:58 AM 1258 Views
As I said... - 30/05/2011 08:55:32 AM 1273 Views
A redesigned home page! - 22/05/2011 04:26:27 AM 1287 Views
This isn't particularly helpful. - 30/05/2011 11:28:46 PM 1345 Views
I'm helpful - 04/07/2011 12:40:08 PM 1341 Views
Mobile version *NM* - 02/06/2011 12:42:25 AM 728 Views
Make quote options more prominent - 13/06/2011 02:21:36 PM 1181 Views
The ability to block someone on a certain board? - 17/06/2011 06:48:41 PM 1257 Views
I would like notification when a premium account downgrades - 18/06/2011 10:42:56 AM 1349 Views
We've already got the Facebook "Like" button, however - 26/06/2011 12:06:51 AM 1283 Views
Unhh... Privacy statement? - 19/07/2011 06:14:49 PM 1182 Views
"Rules" would be a better place, IMHO; we're told at least one of those links should soon work. - 22/07/2011 04:08:54 PM 1208 Views
Thanks for the response / comment, Josh - 23/07/2011 08:59:02 AM 1132 Views
I assume it just means people are too busy working on the site to answer immediately. - 23/07/2011 02:06:48 PM 1178 Views
or at all? - 02/08/2011 12:44:15 PM 1274 Views
Hey, you're preaching to the choir on that one. - 02/08/2011 01:40:43 PM 1395 Views
Admins should be able to move Posts into an already existing thread - 20/07/2011 02:52:05 PM 1215 Views
+1. *NM* - 20/07/2011 03:29:57 PM 629 Views
the ability to empty your outbox - 30/07/2011 04:19:17 PM 1267 Views

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