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That's more or less true of virtually everything, not a great example Isaac Send a noteboard - 26/06/2011 07:09:03 AM
Most people will realize it doesn't impact them negatively. They'll just get used to it.


I'd be very surprised if twenty or even ten years from now it wasn't legal in most places in the West and regarded by most with moderate indifference, but that could be said of a lot of things, good and bad and sometimes really bad, that have happened in the past too, and it's nothing to do with democracy, which is all about what the majority thinks is right right now. As I said, what NY did is totally legit to me, but I think on fairly simple issues like this, where there is no pressing urgency nor wads of connected bits of issue and precedence to sort through, a straight up or down vote by the electorate is the most legitimate and moral route to pursue, there's enough resentment toward the government these days without adding on anything else that can be seen as them dictating morality to the people, who don't not generally regard them as poster-children for that trait in the first place, people feel better about the outcome, win or lose, when they had a direct say. We skip that, by and large, either when their is urgency, a clear and obvious majority, or an issue/law sufficiently detailed, complex, and/or otherwise minor as to make a mass informed vote impractical.
The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift.
- Albert Einstein

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New York Senate approves same-sex marriage - 25/06/2011 03:47:43 AM 1316 Views
Good. *NM* - 25/06/2011 07:40:52 AM 428 Views
Re: Federalism is so fucking slow. *NM* - 25/06/2011 02:47:11 PM 262 Views
I'm actually not opposed to this. - 25/06/2011 03:48:32 PM 633 Views
Makes sense to me. - 25/06/2011 04:00:07 PM 854 Views
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There are two reasons, depending on ones position on the issue. - 25/06/2011 06:04:27 PM 680 Views
Meh, you never know. - 26/06/2011 12:58:37 AM 769 Views
so in your only Catholics are really married? - 26/06/2011 12:04:07 AM 634 Views
Church Doctrine. - 26/06/2011 12:57:39 AM 761 Views
That is simply not true - 26/06/2011 08:20:59 AM 699 Views
Yes it is. - 26/06/2011 05:14:29 PM 706 Views
That's patently wrong in that Orthodox weddings are explicitly recognized by the Church. - 26/06/2011 02:42:00 PM 650 Views
Yeah okay... - 26/06/2011 05:16:05 PM 690 Views
Are you sure about this? - 30/06/2011 04:47:57 PM 554 Views
Dragonsoul is wrong - 01/07/2011 09:21:43 AM 704 Views
Glad to hear it. *NM* - 25/06/2011 04:05:15 PM 248 Views
Seems fine to me - 25/06/2011 05:44:30 PM 626 Views
Voting on civil rights constitutes tyranny of the majority, not legitimate democracy. - 25/06/2011 09:37:28 PM 759 Views
Direct democracy is the only true democracy. *NM* - 26/06/2011 01:01:26 AM 267 Views
Sometimes it is grand not being a True Scottsman *NM* - 26/06/2011 08:21:49 AM 258 Views
Re: Voting on civil rights constitutes tyranny of the majority, not legitimate democracy. - 26/06/2011 03:11:06 AM 702 Views
Good luck telling that to the deeply religious right. - 26/06/2011 03:20:04 AM 622 Views
I am a deeply religious member of the right, and I tell them that all the time *NM* - 26/06/2011 03:30:14 AM 269 Views
Then you're a rare person. *NM* - 26/06/2011 03:36:11 AM 268 Views
After a number of years of gay marriage - 26/06/2011 06:57:07 AM 596 Views
That's more or less true of virtually everything, not a great example - 26/06/2011 07:09:03 AM 624 Views
People shouldn't turn their own religion and/or opinion into law - 28/06/2011 07:33:48 PM 618 Views
I don't recall mentioning religion beyond confirming that I was religious - 28/06/2011 08:22:51 PM 667 Views
I admit I wasn't replying to you directly - 29/06/2011 07:20:10 AM 623 Views
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I'll address the bulk of this later - 29/06/2011 07:58:48 PM 548 Views
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Re: I require the same standard of evidence to be confident in anything. - 30/06/2011 08:59:00 PM 809 Views
Re: I require the same standard of evidence to be confident in anything. - 30/06/2011 09:47:30 PM 1075 Views
We're gonna have to pick this up another time - 01/07/2011 04:37:25 AM 640 Views
No, I used the word irrational to mean that it's not rational. - 30/06/2011 09:12:19 PM 657 Views
Fair Enough - 01/07/2011 04:32:44 AM 695 Views
Btw, in case you were wondering, I do like you - 01/07/2011 02:17:42 PM 701 Views
Empire State Building was lit up in rainbow colors, looked cool *NM* - 25/06/2011 08:21:03 PM 281 Views
Good. *NM* - 25/06/2011 11:41:30 PM 252 Views
So, fifth time is a charm? - 26/06/2011 06:38:26 AM 742 Views

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