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People shouldn't turn their own religion and/or opinion into law Helene Send a noteboard - 28/06/2011 07:33:48 PM
I will never understand why people think it's a good idea to turn their opinions into laws. People who believe that it's wrong for same sex couples to marry, will not get married to someone of the same sex.
So it's not an issue.

And why would people who do not believe this and do not share this opinion and/or faith, be limited by other people's ideas or religions? There's just no valid reason.
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New York Senate approves same-sex marriage Dominic - 25/06/2011 03:47:43 AM 1352 Views
Good. *NM* Camilla - 25/06/2011 07:40:52 AM 446 Views
Re: Federalism is so fucking slow. *NM* Gaps - 25/06/2011 02:47:11 PM 275 Views
I'm actually not opposed to this. Dragonsoul - 25/06/2011 03:48:32 PM 655 Views
Makes sense to me. Joel - 25/06/2011 04:00:07 PM 883 Views
I'm not sure why there was even any need for such explicit protection. Legolas - 25/06/2011 04:04:47 PM 645 Views
There are two reasons, depending on ones position on the issue. Joel - 25/06/2011 06:04:27 PM 705 Views
Meh, you never know. Dragonsoul - 26/06/2011 12:58:37 AM 792 Views
so in your only Catholics are really married? random thoughts - 26/06/2011 12:04:07 AM 658 Views
Church Doctrine. Dragonsoul - 26/06/2011 12:57:39 AM 780 Views
That is simply not true Roland00 - 26/06/2011 08:20:59 AM 725 Views
Yes it is. Dragonsoul - 26/06/2011 05:14:29 PM 728 Views
That's patently wrong in that Orthodox weddings are explicitly recognized by the Church. Tom - 26/06/2011 02:42:00 PM 675 Views
Yeah okay... Dragonsoul - 26/06/2011 05:16:05 PM 715 Views
They are outside of the authority of Rome, and have, on occasion, excommunicated Popes. Dannymac - 27/06/2011 05:03:31 PM 687 Views
Are you sure about this? Camilla - 30/06/2011 04:47:57 PM 578 Views
Dragonsoul is wrong Roland00 - 01/07/2011 09:21:43 AM 725 Views
Glad to hear it. *NM* Legolas - 25/06/2011 04:05:15 PM 259 Views
Seems fine to me Isaac - 25/06/2011 05:44:30 PM 651 Views
Voting on civil rights constitutes tyranny of the majority, not legitimate democracy. Dreaded Anomaly - 25/06/2011 09:37:28 PM 781 Views
Direct democracy is the only true democracy. *NM* Dragonsoul - 26/06/2011 01:01:26 AM 279 Views
Sometimes it is grand not being a True Scottsman *NM* Roland00 - 26/06/2011 08:21:49 AM 269 Views
Re: Voting on civil rights constitutes tyranny of the majority, not legitimate democracy. Isaac - 26/06/2011 03:11:06 AM 726 Views
Good luck telling that to the deeply religious right. Great Lord of Chaos - 26/06/2011 03:20:04 AM 645 Views
I am a deeply religious member of the right, and I tell them that all the time *NM* Isaac - 26/06/2011 03:30:14 AM 281 Views
Then you're a rare person. *NM* Great Lord of Chaos - 26/06/2011 03:36:11 AM 281 Views
After a number of years of gay marriage Helene - 26/06/2011 06:57:07 AM 619 Views
That's more or less true of virtually everything, not a great example Isaac - 26/06/2011 07:09:03 AM 648 Views
People shouldn't turn their own religion and/or opinion into law Helene - 28/06/2011 07:33:48 PM 641 Views
I don't recall mentioning religion beyond confirming that I was religious Isaac - 28/06/2011 08:22:51 PM 692 Views
I admit I wasn't replying to you directly Helene - 29/06/2011 07:20:10 AM 647 Views
I think you should give this subject a bit more thought Isaac - 29/06/2011 02:16:04 PM 691 Views
I'll address the bulk of this later Helene - 29/06/2011 07:58:48 PM 571 Views
Believing things without strong supporting evidence is not rational. Dreaded Anomaly - 30/06/2011 12:11:33 AM 754 Views
Requiring different degrees of proof for things isn't particularly rational Isaac - 30/06/2011 01:14:44 PM 840 Views
I require the same standard of evidence to be confident in anything. Dreaded Anomaly - 30/06/2011 07:43:51 PM 1232 Views
Re: I require the same standard of evidence to be confident in anything. Isaac - 30/06/2011 08:59:00 PM 839 Views
Re: I require the same standard of evidence to be confident in anything. Dreaded Anomaly - 30/06/2011 09:47:30 PM 1098 Views
We're gonna have to pick this up another time Isaac - 01/07/2011 04:37:25 AM 661 Views
No, I used the word irrational to mean that it's not rational. Helene - 30/06/2011 09:12:19 PM 681 Views
Fair Enough Isaac - 01/07/2011 04:32:44 AM 718 Views
Btw, in case you were wondering, I do like you Helene - 01/07/2011 02:17:42 PM 726 Views
Re: Voting on civil rights constitutes tyranny of the majority, not legitimate democracy. Dreaded Anomaly - 26/06/2011 10:38:56 PM 829 Views
I think you should give your fellow citizens a bit more trust and respect Isaac - 27/06/2011 05:41:52 PM 620 Views
I'm all for occasionally forcing stuff down people's throats... LadyLorraine - 28/06/2011 11:44:12 AM 618 Views
My expectations are guided by psychology and history. Dreaded Anomaly - 28/06/2011 07:08:06 PM 734 Views
That's good to know, most of us do that, though we usually just call it common sense and experience Isaac - 28/06/2011 08:55:23 PM 761 Views
No, most people don't do that. Reasoning from cognitive biases and anecdotes is much more common. Dreaded Anomaly - 30/06/2011 12:18:40 AM 672 Views
Perhaps, you seem to be claiming not do that yourself though Isaac - 30/06/2011 01:40:57 PM 767 Views
Empire State Building was lit up in rainbow colors, looked cool *NM* beetnemesis - 25/06/2011 08:21:03 PM 297 Views
Good. *NM* ironclad - 25/06/2011 11:41:30 PM 265 Views
I approved that years ago. They are way behind. Granted, I have no authority over anyone... TaskmasterJack - 26/06/2011 12:22:33 AM 547 Views
So, fifth time is a charm? everynametaken - 26/06/2011 06:38:26 AM 765 Views
The real issue is going to be when the Supreme Court rules on the full faith and credit clause. Tom - 26/06/2011 02:43:23 PM 657 Views
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