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I'm amazed that one person could cause this level of death. Tom Send a noteboard - 25/07/2011 05:35:33 AM
It's sick that one person could intentionally kill so many others. And why? Okay, so you don't like immigration into Norway - you have a voice, you can try to change laws or whatever. Okay, so you don't like the largely socialist system that Norway has (and I can personally appreciate that) - so work to change it. But any change must be done peacefully. Don't these people who kill others see that they are no better than the people they claim to be their "enemies"??? This is a universal truth, whether we're talking about this guy, Hamas, al Qaeda, Timothy McVey, or anyone else.

When has killing people ever helped one's argument or position??? The best you can hope for is to kill everyone and go down as a butcher.
Political correctness is the pettiest form of casuistry.

ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius

Ummaka qinnassa nīk!

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Large explosion in Oslo and nearby shootings - 22/07/2011 03:52:56 PM 1949 Views
A bit too convenient for an accident, I'd say. - 22/07/2011 03:54:38 PM 681 Views
I agree - 22/07/2011 03:59:16 PM 683 Views
Why do you care about making a claim? You're not a reporter. - 22/07/2011 04:53:06 PM 685 Views
Because I was making the post to tell people what was happening - 22/07/2011 05:26:11 PM 668 Views
He IS reporting - 22/07/2011 11:46:30 PM 592 Views
Let's not get ridiculous. - 23/07/2011 02:10:26 AM 608 Views
Police in Oslo have confirmed it was a bomb. *NM* - 22/07/2011 04:15:04 PM 581 Views
Not good - two reported dead so far - 22/07/2011 04:23:03 PM 676 Views
Re: Not good - two reported dead so far - 22/07/2011 04:26:15 PM 651 Views
I've long assumed this was the case. - 22/07/2011 04:28:40 PM 615 Views
Ah, I has suspected so - 22/07/2011 04:32:14 PM 571 Views
I thought everyone loved Norway! - 22/07/2011 04:26:25 PM 655 Views
'cept Whales - 22/07/2011 04:31:01 PM 677 Views
Hey, I wouldn't put something like this past Green Peace. - 22/07/2011 04:37:40 PM 613 Views
I would. *NM* - 22/07/2011 06:52:38 PM 592 Views
Your faith is greater than mine then. - 22/07/2011 10:26:54 PM 610 Views
Sounds like you're confusing Greenpeace with PETA. *NM* - 22/07/2011 10:53:18 PM 592 Views
Earth First is more likely. - 22/07/2011 11:14:33 PM 683 Views
And 8-11th century Irish and Brits - 22/07/2011 05:20:07 PM 644 Views
This ain't cool. *NM* - 22/07/2011 04:55:21 PM 636 Views
It is terrible. - 22/07/2011 05:13:24 PM 586 Views
There are allegedly also people firing at the youth camp of the Labour party at an island - 22/07/2011 05:26:29 PM 680 Views
Are Labour the ruling party? - 22/07/2011 05:28:51 PM 619 Views
Yes. One of three. - 22/07/2011 05:33:42 PM 708 Views
That's horrible. - 22/07/2011 05:42:07 PM 618 Views
I hope the perpetrators are made to suffer - 22/07/2011 05:53:38 PM 633 Views
7 confirmed dead, 2 severly injured, several with minor injuries. - 22/07/2011 06:45:32 PM 646 Views
and at least 9 additional dead on Utøya... *NM* - 22/07/2011 09:23:25 PM 599 Views
Utøya was just.... terrible. - 22/07/2011 09:58:18 PM 617 Views
Norwegian papers article, in English: - 22/07/2011 10:51:32 PM 800 Views
so "Youth camp" doesnt mean little kids right? - 22/07/2011 11:05:42 PM 619 Views
I gather 14-18 years old *NM* - 22/07/2011 11:07:37 PM 547 Views
wow.... *NM* - 22/07/2011 11:11:34 PM 567 Views
HS kids, from what I can gather. - 22/07/2011 11:45:30 PM 652 Views
The person arrested is Anders Behring Breivik - 23/07/2011 01:14:58 AM 614 Views
At least 80 dead so far. - 23/07/2011 03:09:38 AM 747 Views
Oh I feel sick - 23/07/2011 03:55:04 AM 661 Views
Yes. *NM* - 23/07/2011 07:25:46 AM 598 Views
Wow, that's horrible *NM* - 23/07/2011 05:55:11 AM 611 Views
“It seems kind of unreal, especially in Norway. This is not something that could happen here.” - 23/07/2011 10:23:48 AM 628 Views
Yeah, but it is quite shocking in such a normally placid country. - 23/07/2011 04:04:04 PM 703 Views
Norwegians cops dont carry guns? - 23/07/2011 08:05:07 PM 623 Views
Re: Norwegians cops dont carry guns? - 23/07/2011 09:01:28 PM 657 Views
It's Europe; guns are a lot more heavily regulated. - 23/07/2011 09:32:15 PM 648 Views
Holy crap - 23/07/2011 11:06:32 AM 637 Views
Sounds like an anarchist, i.e., left-wing nut..... *NM* - 23/07/2011 03:10:55 PM 567 Views
Try Christian fundamentalist - 23/07/2011 04:12:55 PM 621 Views
Eerm, yeah...What Joel said - 23/07/2011 04:40:21 PM 682 Views
There's very few facts for anyone to be working with - 23/07/2011 05:52:26 PM 596 Views
Just having switched off the latest news... - 23/07/2011 06:21:09 PM 593 Views
Re: Just having switched off the latest news... - 23/07/2011 09:01:36 PM 541 Views
Why can't we just call him a wing-nut and agree? - 23/07/2011 07:27:33 PM 717 Views
why cant we call him a terrorist? - 23/07/2011 08:01:33 PM 604 Views
Because terrorist attacks only happens to the US. - 23/07/2011 08:21:05 PM 602 Views
Poes Law, man, Poes Law. - 23/07/2011 10:02:45 PM 582 Views
I'm fine with that; the media here's certainly calling him a terrorist. - 23/07/2011 09:59:15 PM 574 Views
i noticed the Norwegians are calling it a terror attack - 24/07/2011 03:17:53 AM 604 Views
Christian media bias, eh? - 24/07/2011 03:48:22 AM 599 Views
Sorry, new laptop. - 23/07/2011 09:59:15 PM 550 Views
oh, please. *NM* - 23/07/2011 09:09:40 PM 567 Views
My thoughts echo yours. - 23/07/2011 03:54:22 PM 600 Views
The people of Norway are in everyones thoughts and prayers. *NM* - 23/07/2011 12:51:38 PM 643 Views
This is awful, *NM* - 23/07/2011 03:43:37 PM 590 Views
Absolutely tragic. Sick sick person. *NM* - 23/07/2011 03:58:15 PM 526 Views
A victim's account - 23/07/2011 05:40:01 PM 705 Views
By the way - too bad Norway doesn't have the death penalty.....very justified in this case. *NM* - 23/07/2011 08:44:32 PM 537 Views
Very much true - 23/07/2011 09:31:14 PM 608 Views
Actually, it's more like "too bad the maximum Norwegian prison sentence is 21 years". - 23/07/2011 09:33:52 PM 670 Views
21 years? Wow, what a stupid system..... *NM* - 23/07/2011 09:41:18 PM 574 Views
Re: Actually, it's more like "too bad the maximum Norwegian prison sentence is 21 years". - 23/07/2011 09:43:12 PM 713 Views
Anything less than execution is wrong..... - 23/07/2011 09:52:07 PM 643 Views
By the Grace of God, that's not your call to make. - 23/07/2011 10:06:05 PM 611 Views
92 murders = execution - 23/07/2011 10:09:33 PM 634 Views
I don't think that the Norwegian criminal system is based on that ideal. - 24/07/2011 03:03:42 PM 547 Views
Which almost without exception makes a lot more sense. - 23/07/2011 10:04:48 PM 608 Views
I have a feeling - 24/07/2011 04:08:34 AM 608 Views
Not at all. Luckily, we don't have death penalty - 24/07/2011 09:16:28 AM 669 Views
Right wing terrorism always confused me. - 24/07/2011 04:44:34 AM 644 Views
I don't understand how anyone can be a fascist. *NM* - 24/07/2011 07:15:16 AM 559 Views
I don't understand how any Italian can not be. *NM* - 24/07/2011 01:51:34 PM 631 Views
Cause fascism didn't do much good for Italy? *NM* - 24/07/2011 05:06:34 PM 547 Views
Bahaha yeah except 20 years of peace, prosperity and effective government. - 25/07/2011 12:06:35 AM 590 Views
It's important to distinguish between Roman and modern fascism. - 25/07/2011 03:48:24 AM 628 Views
The problem with that is simple. - 25/07/2011 02:15:38 PM 559 Views
I can't speak to Italian civil liberties under Mussolini, but the little I've heard contradicts you. - 25/07/2011 04:27:54 PM 555 Views
Wikipedia, really? - 25/07/2011 05:07:28 PM 632 Views
Merely for convenience; the things I linked (e.g. blackshirt murder campaigns) are common knowledge. - 25/07/2011 07:00:22 PM 541 Views
Actually yes, he does. - 26/07/2011 03:23:20 AM 570 Views
Actually, I know quite a bit about fascism in Italy - 25/07/2011 08:29:04 AM 676 Views
If you did... - 25/07/2011 02:05:31 PM 472 Views
You're full of it... and apparently you don't know it. *NM* - 25/07/2011 06:40:14 PM 560 Views
Again, use facts... - 26/07/2011 03:24:02 AM 653 Views
I'm too amused by your unfounded accusations of ignorance - 26/07/2011 06:13:42 AM 533 Views
I don't debate with the ignorant. - 26/07/2011 01:43:07 PM 574 Views
My guess is they're viewed as "collaborators". - 24/07/2011 12:05:00 PM 617 Views
Even so. - 24/07/2011 01:55:08 PM 601 Views
Yeah, I can't really explain it; it's insane behavior. - 24/07/2011 04:57:27 PM 583 Views
/ignoring the ridiculous fascism stuff... on the subject of killing your own - 25/07/2011 04:36:01 PM 624 Views
Regardless. - 25/07/2011 05:17:36 PM 586 Views
That's tempting, saying he isn't a "real" or "true" nationalist. - 25/07/2011 09:20:38 PM 671 Views
Well I just don't comptrehend how he could be a "true" or "real" nationalist... - 26/07/2011 03:25:35 AM 602 Views
That's clearly not true - 26/07/2011 10:35:05 AM 562 Views
I'm pretty sure it's against nationalism as anyone defines it. - 26/07/2011 01:43:56 PM 622 Views
See? - 26/07/2011 02:05:09 PM 542 Views
Right, but... - 26/07/2011 10:47:29 PM 633 Views
Yes he is on the far right - 26/07/2011 10:54:06 PM 591 Views
I'm hardly a fanatic. - 27/07/2011 12:23:09 AM 467 Views
You do come across that way here. - 27/07/2011 11:05:26 AM 594 Views
Maybe to you, then again if you want to talk about how people come across on the internet... - 27/07/2011 10:05:39 PM 626 Views
That makes sense - 27/07/2011 11:27:29 PM 574 Views
How would a Nazi killing ONLY aryans be a Nazi? - 28/07/2011 06:27:03 AM 618 Views
Remember how the Nazis killled socialists and other people who disagreed with them? That is how. *NM* - 28/07/2011 07:40:24 AM 549 Views
and don't forget it was how the far left killed the people they did like as well - 28/07/2011 11:47:26 AM 561 Views
Sorry but when was the USSR nationalistic? - 28/07/2011 12:40:46 PM 550 Views
Great Patriotic War ring a bell? - 28/07/2011 06:04:02 PM 557 Views
And how was that nationalistic? - 28/07/2011 08:05:01 PM 549 Views
Can you read? - 28/07/2011 06:02:13 PM 581 Views
The rather famous Night of the Long Knives not ring a bell? - 28/07/2011 10:34:47 AM 548 Views
Again, I said a Nazi who kills ONLY aryans. - 28/07/2011 06:03:00 PM 603 Views
I have no idea why I want to jump into this but I would just point out two things - 28/07/2011 12:46:56 AM 609 Views
Okay that's fair. - 28/07/2011 06:28:57 AM 609 Views
So horrible. *NM* - 24/07/2011 06:24:28 AM 575 Views
Apparently, he plagiarised tehe UNA-bomber in his manifesto - 24/07/2011 02:52:36 PM 616 Views
Wow, that's impressive, in all the worst senses of the word. - 24/07/2011 05:05:24 PM 555 Views
Having read his manifesto and watched his youtube video... - 25/07/2011 01:50:07 AM 582 Views
Oh, so killing people who are NOT HIS OWN would have been ok? *NM* - 25/07/2011 10:38:50 AM 519 Views
Would have been understandable. - 25/07/2011 02:03:31 PM 589 Views
Much as it pains me to say, most of his victims were almost certainly not Christian. - 25/07/2011 07:04:21 PM 597 Views
Again. - 26/07/2011 03:26:51 AM 569 Views
I'm amazed that one person could cause this level of death. - 25/07/2011 05:35:33 AM 593 Views
I really wish they would stop mentioning he was a fan of True Blood *NM* - 25/07/2011 05:47:16 AM 514 Views
In the middle of all this, why is that important to you? *NM* - 25/07/2011 09:04:54 AM 603 Views
its important to me to know why its important enough to mention - 25/07/2011 09:15:11 PM 550 Views
And ego shooter games, as if they were the final trigger *NM* - 25/07/2011 10:40:33 AM 536 Views
And the fact that he was a Eurovision fan - 25/07/2011 11:23:48 AM 588 Views
are political party sponsored youth camps common in Europe? - 25/07/2011 07:13:00 PM 606 Views
It is the labour youth organisation's summer camp - 25/07/2011 09:11:57 PM 595 Views
sorry but that just seems very odd to me - 25/07/2011 10:08:07 PM 571 Views
Re: sorry but that just seems very odd to me - 25/07/2011 10:20:27 PM 584 Views
that would make a big difference - 25/07/2011 10:32:52 PM 581 Views
I think most such organizations have a somewhat older membership - 16-25 or so. - 25/07/2011 10:30:04 PM 570 Views
having children who are passed their teens I still considered teenagers kids - 25/07/2011 10:57:50 PM 578 Views
Yeah, I guess that'd depend on your perspective. - 25/07/2011 11:17:17 PM 565 Views
Re:I know that - 27/07/2011 03:39:47 AM 637 Views
Re: Re:I know that - 27/07/2011 09:04:24 AM 588 Views
Re: He took lives. - 28/07/2011 12:23:43 AM 445 Views
are we really so bored and entrenched that we are debating the motives of a mad man? *NM* - 26/07/2011 02:13:38 PM 561 Views
Quite. *NM* - 26/07/2011 06:03:30 PM 535 Views