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Again, I don't know the British standard, so I can only guess how it works. Joel Send a noteboard - 10/08/2011 12:54:20 AM
Are the cops expected to let the bad guys get the first shot?

I wouldn't think so though, again, I can only guess. I expect they do have to feel their lives in danger before using lethal force though; your cops do.
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London snoopcester - 08/08/2011 12:08:35 PM 2236 Views
i freaked out when i heard about that Yunalesca - 08/08/2011 02:09:10 PM 1471 Views
Re: i freaked out when i heard about that snoopcester - 08/08/2011 02:47:16 PM 1307 Views
It's pretty scary. Rebekah - 08/08/2011 02:19:51 PM 1317 Views
I found it somewhat last night, having a sister who lives in Brixton snoopcester - 08/08/2011 02:50:57 PM 1364 Views
I'm sure the media will manage to blame the police somehow Wibble - 08/08/2011 03:11:40 PM 1300 Views
I've been following the story. Spriteling - 08/08/2011 03:26:51 PM 1303 Views
I cannot quite make out what is going on Camilla - 08/08/2011 03:27:57 PM 1459 Views
No, that's about it as far as we know Wibble - 08/08/2011 03:40:15 PM 1509 Views
Re: I cannot quite make out what is going on snoopcester - 08/08/2011 03:40:21 PM 1368 Views
Continue to use live ammunition until no one is protesting. *NM* Tom - 08/08/2011 03:53:50 PM 725 Views
Sounds good to me *NM* Wibble - 08/08/2011 04:06:04 PM 733 Views
Okay, bored of these riots now, time for the police to follow 10CCs example... Wibble - 08/08/2011 09:28:36 PM 1398 Views
Given what has been reported snoopcester - 08/08/2011 04:07:13 PM 1428 Views
So, did the original suspect have a gun/fire bullets? beetnemesis - 09/08/2011 04:19:16 PM 1408 Views
Had a gun, didn't fire snoopcester - 09/08/2011 06:51:54 PM 1353 Views
Not actually true Wibble - 09/08/2011 07:01:33 PM 1291 Views
Seems it isn't exactly but I'm not sure your reply is 100% true either snoopcester - 09/08/2011 07:27:00 PM 1412 Views
Now that's a good point Wibble - 09/08/2011 07:45:26 PM 1362 Views
I think with both they're putting disclaimers in snoopcester - 09/08/2011 08:56:17 PM 1379 Views
There's no evidence he didn't fire? Imagine that. Joel - 09/08/2011 11:22:05 PM 1311 Views
He's saying the evidence available is inconclusive either way. Rebekah - 09/08/2011 11:37:06 PM 1388 Views
Fair enough. Joel - 09/08/2011 11:56:16 PM 1422 Views
There are various proofs snoopcester - 10/08/2011 12:06:41 AM 1302 Views
True, but if tests are inconclusive rather than merely incomplete those proofs may not be available. Joel - 10/08/2011 12:47:34 AM 1354 Views
Bullshit Wibble - 10/08/2011 01:12:46 AM 1220 Views
If that's the case it's hard to say they overreacted. Joel - 10/08/2011 01:22:45 AM 1222 Views
I do see why it matters if he fired or not random thoughts - 10/08/2011 12:46:12 AM 1274 Views
Again, I don't know the British standard, so I can only guess how it works. Joel - 10/08/2011 12:54:20 AM 1361 Views
Though if he had a gun, in a sock, not drawn... beetnemesis - 10/08/2011 01:50:05 AM 1324 Views
sadly the rioters didn't wait for facts random thoughts - 10/08/2011 02:56:46 AM 1473 Views
They've announced that the "unknown" gun was never fired beetnemesis - 10/08/2011 02:04:26 PM 1322 Views
So? Are the police supposed to let him get the first shot? *NM* random thoughts - 10/08/2011 03:15:59 PM 740 Views
...said Gaddafi. *NM* Tim - 10/08/2011 12:11:31 AM 698 Views
And?... *NM* Wibble - 10/08/2011 12:17:51 AM 674 Views
And we just went to war with him because he was shooting people in the street. Tim - 10/08/2011 09:56:07 AM 1353 Views
Last time I checked, you guys have a vote. First past the post, sure, but it's still a vote. Tom - 10/08/2011 04:33:07 AM 1292 Views
Is there any other country that has a death penalty for children caught stealing? *NM* Tim - 10/08/2011 10:02:56 AM 729 Views
Maybe not, but we can hope there is... *NM* Tom - 10/08/2011 02:04:38 PM 674 Views
You can hope there is. Tim - 10/08/2011 02:21:17 PM 1319 Views
...you guys need a poster named Tam, and a sitcom, stat. *NM* beetnemesis - 10/08/2011 05:11:57 PM 733 Views
+1 Yunalesca - 10/08/2011 05:17:22 PM 1332 Views
Wibble is called Tam (Scots) or Tom (English), and used to go by dragon_tam. Tim - 10/08/2011 05:27:16 PM 1417 Views
LMAO *NM* Aisha - 10/08/2011 06:22:11 PM 736 Views
If you want to talk statistics... Tom - 13/08/2011 08:26:39 PM 1274 Views
So the death penalty is a deterrent for the crimes it doesn't apply to, but not for those it does? Tim - 14/08/2011 10:58:14 AM 1484 Views
No, that wasn't my point. Tom - 14/08/2011 09:39:14 PM 1427 Views
light yagami felt the same way Yunalesca - 14/08/2011 01:20:02 PM 1509 Views
Please speak English. *NM* Tom - 14/08/2011 09:39:46 PM 718 Views
They think they have a good reason for what they're doing snoopcester - 10/08/2011 11:48:52 AM 1270 Views
If they react even more indignantly to a harsh crackdown, maybe they do. Tom - 10/08/2011 02:06:04 PM 1186 Views
Oh? snoopcester - 10/08/2011 04:05:55 PM 1369 Views
This is the first I've heard of it; here's hoping and praying the damage is restricted to property Joel - 08/08/2011 06:59:06 PM 1378 Views
I am sure dart_board - 09/08/2011 06:34:40 PM 1358 Views
I don't recall mentioning any of those groups in connection with this. Joel - 09/08/2011 07:29:01 PM 1289 Views
You will. *NM* dart_board - 10/08/2011 12:14:22 AM 684 Views
I've had plenty of opportunites and still didn't, even when rt practically teed one up for me. Joel - 10/08/2011 12:25:09 AM 1312 Views
This is utterly awful. Rebekah - 08/08/2011 09:41:46 PM 1447 Views
Yeah - it has massively spread today. Just saw footage of youths looting a Sainburys in Birmingham snoopcester - 08/08/2011 09:52:32 PM 1331 Views
And if they had got the army out Wibble - 08/08/2011 09:57:40 PM 1345 Views
That's true. Rebekah - 08/08/2011 10:03:03 PM 1319 Views
pfft Yunalesca - 08/08/2011 10:23:37 PM 1254 Views
I think the vast majority of people would be just fine with it snoopcester - 08/08/2011 10:08:34 PM 1484 Views
They call it "martial law" for a reason. Joel - 09/08/2011 02:30:40 AM 1347 Views
Might work in the US snoopcester - 09/08/2011 02:13:50 PM 1366 Views
When most of the looters are kids I can see how that would be problematic. Joel - 09/08/2011 05:18:09 PM 1338 Views
Joel I don't believe any looters were shot in the Rodney King riots random thoughts - 09/08/2011 05:41:44 PM 1302 Views
Police were, from what I understand, hard to find during those riots. Joel - 09/08/2011 05:51:11 PM 1316 Views
I am just questioning the logic of the debate taking place here random thoughts - 09/08/2011 06:33:11 PM 1302 Views
Your notoriously faulty memory is by far the lesser problem here. Joel - 09/08/2011 07:14:07 PM 1577 Views
That article supports my argument random thoughts - 09/08/2011 08:55:15 PM 1240 Views
OK I blame the site for this random double post. I hit submit once. random thoughts - 09/08/2011 08:55:17 PM 1294 Views
I can't really argue with anything you've said here, so I won't try. Joel - 09/08/2011 11:11:17 PM 1457 Views
so now you are comparing the rioters to the Tea Party? I guess dartboard was almost right random thoughts - 10/08/2011 12:51:46 AM 1402 Views
I'm comparing alienation to alienation and noting that it's pervasive. Joel - 10/08/2011 01:19:49 AM 1388 Views
and I am saying you have no idea who the tea party is random thoughts - 10/08/2011 03:06:15 AM 1288 Views
I guess I should've used the Progressive Caucus instead. Joel - 10/08/2011 04:25:30 PM 1373 Views
Seriously, is it mostly kids? nossy - 08/08/2011 10:08:00 PM 1257 Views
They don't have parents Wibble - 08/08/2011 10:10:07 PM 1459 Views
A hell of a lot seem to be snoopcester - 08/08/2011 10:12:21 PM 1308 Views
I'd be tempted to go down there with a cattle prod. nossy - 08/08/2011 10:14:14 PM 1386 Views
I think there might be too many of them snoopcester - 08/08/2011 10:23:05 PM 1315 Views
If that link still isn't working, try here snoopcester - 08/08/2011 10:29:19 PM 1264 Views
I know that if I had ever participated in anything like that, my mother would have kicked my ass. Avendesora - 09/08/2011 08:48:09 PM 1431 Views
its getting absolutely mental Yunalesca - 08/08/2011 10:21:32 PM 1281 Views
Congratulations Ken Livingstone Wibble - 08/08/2011 11:44:29 PM 1344 Views
Agree on the first part snoopcester - 09/08/2011 01:05:01 PM 1340 Views
Um... This is the first I've read / heard about it Two Wongs - 09/08/2011 03:43:02 AM 1267 Views
Looks a bit like a post-apocalyptic sci-fi movie Sports_Gambler - 09/08/2011 06:38:59 AM 1398 Views
Apparently that's a surprisingly common error. Joel - 09/08/2011 12:34:30 PM 1365 Views
Horrible Mark - 09/08/2011 11:18:21 AM 1238 Views
Yes snoopcester - 09/08/2011 12:55:00 PM 1421 Views
Tumblr blog where ppl are submitting pictures of the looters Two Wongs - 09/08/2011 12:49:39 PM 1283 Views
People have set up the same thing on Facebook and flickr as well snoopcester - 09/08/2011 01:23:42 PM 1338 Views
... Two Wongs - 09/08/2011 04:12:55 PM 1337 Views
Before and after pictures of buildings/businesses from BBC Fox and Ravens - 09/08/2011 02:12:24 PM 1492 Views
Holy crap, what is wrong with those people?? ironclad - 09/08/2011 02:23:39 PM 1303 Views
how does 'they are brainless idiots' grab you? *NM* Yunalesca - 09/08/2011 05:03:51 PM 638 Views
What's with that last picture set? Nate - 09/08/2011 04:39:53 PM 1328 Views
Never figured the Iranian government for having much of a sense of hunour, snoopcester - 09/08/2011 02:26:01 PM 1409 Views
The hypocricy there is mind-boggling. *NM* Macharius - 09/08/2011 05:03:28 PM 665 Views
I imagine that's the point. Nate - 09/08/2011 05:33:09 PM 1443 Views
That was my take on it as well snoopcester - 09/08/2011 07:03:51 PM 1380 Views
Re: That was my take on it as well Camilla - 11/08/2011 11:32:12 AM 1429 Views
*sprays water over laptop screen* Yunalesca - 09/08/2011 05:07:07 PM 1339 Views
lol wow...that was a bit much *NM* Aisha - 09/08/2011 05:26:33 PM 633 Views
To be fair Sidious - 09/08/2011 06:24:58 PM 1738 Views
You make a fair point. snoopcester - 09/08/2011 07:05:26 PM 1246 Views
Send in the army! Two Wongs - 09/08/2011 11:37:15 PM 1249 Views
That is just lovely. *NM* Camilla - 11/08/2011 11:27:34 AM 669 Views
Remember you're a womble! Zeeb - 09/08/2011 06:49:52 PM 1337 Views
Yes snoopcester - 09/08/2011 07:09:35 PM 1365 Views
Re: Yes Zeeb - 09/08/2011 07:32:18 PM 1321 Views
i can see the smoke from the sony factory fire out of my bedroom window Yunalesca - 09/08/2011 07:21:08 PM 1376 Views
This is all quite... surreal. It's hard to believe. Avendesora - 09/08/2011 08:54:57 PM 1281 Views
The surreal thing is London is still full of tourists who seem to not have a care in the world snoopcester - 09/08/2011 09:03:11 PM 1285 Views
Well, it's not really anti-foreigner sentiment, is it? beetnemesis - 10/08/2011 01:57:55 AM 1376 Views
Not yet but then it isn't pro either snoopcester - 10/08/2011 10:25:13 AM 1356 Views
She has a grandson to meet for the first time, then she's off traveling with a friend. Avendesora - 10/08/2011 03:27:37 AM 1348 Views
Well to clarify, it isn't that I think it is very unsafe just not a good time to go somewhere snoopcester - 10/08/2011 10:19:03 AM 1244 Views
I'm flying to the midlands tomorrow. Helene - 10/08/2011 07:35:28 AM 1314 Views
It seems to be only happening in the evenings and at night. Tim - 10/08/2011 10:59:55 AM 1276 Views
I have been keeping an eye on it; we have friends in Highbury Druid - 10/08/2011 05:07:16 AM 1424 Views
Re: I have been keeping an eye on it; we have friends in Highbury snoopcester - 10/08/2011 10:47:46 AM 1445 Views
Oi!!! Druid - 11/08/2011 04:40:04 AM 1513 Views
Aussie, Aussie? snoopcester - 11/08/2011 11:50:47 AM 1440 Views
I saw Nick Griffin's twitter last night Stephen - 10/08/2011 12:23:01 PM 1270 Views
Yeah, I saw he had been. He's a great little scum bag snoopcester - 10/08/2011 12:47:34 PM 1363 Views
*dual facepalm* Yunalesca - 10/08/2011 02:45:03 PM 1346 Views
Effing EDL snoopcester - 10/08/2011 09:28:41 PM 1426 Views
I liked this blog Camilla - 11/08/2011 11:29:42 AM 1336 Views
Quite good snoopcester - 12/08/2011 02:57:35 PM 1380 Views
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