I'd like to see some examples of both sides accusing each other of treason.
Joel Send a noteboard - 18/08/2011 03:08:08 AM
He shouldn't have said treasonous, but his choice of wording aside he's expressing a fairly normal political sentiment, Charles Krauthammer discussed this subject in detail. It's not something to get worked up over though, Perry shouldn't - for political reasons - use the word 'treasonous' but politicians pretty much non-stop accuse people of treasonous or unpatriotic behavior all the time with pretty words, so I couldn't really care.
To the extent I still indulge the conceit they ARE two sides, I mean. As Roland notes, there's a difference between saying someones policies harm the nation (after all, along with a desire to improve the country, that's the whole very sincere motive for running against someone) and accusing them of INTENTIONALLY harming the nation for some murky seldom specified reason. I admit I called the "PATRIOT" Act treasonous because it flagrantly and repeatedly violated the Constitution, but I was careful to say I only wanted Bush impeached for it, and didn't say he was purposely harming the nation (he just seems to think preserving, protecting and defending the Constitution is somehow incompatable with Americas interests ). You never heard Kerry calling him "anti-American" though, much less standing by the accusation; I don't think even Al Sharpton went that far. The closest any elected official came to that was Cynthia McKinney, whom the Democrats promptly expelled from the party.
Rest assured, I'm not trying to start another back and forth political debate but, even though an example of a Democrat doing something indefensible doesn't legitimize it for Republicans, I'll have to see an example of a Democrat accusing an opponent of treason before I'll believe it. Again, not that it matters, because both parties serve no one but the corporate donors who hire them as lobbyists on retirement anyway, which is by far the most harmful thing to the nation right now, even if they don't intend that harm.
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No one is going to talk about Rick Perry threatening to lynch the Fed Chair?
18/08/2011 01:02:02 AM
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No, no real point
18/08/2011 01:25:24 AM
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Much difference in degrees
18/08/2011 01:47:30 AM
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the difference in degree is the degree of hyperbole you used
18/08/2011 02:14:03 PM
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"Hyperbole". That is exactly the word I was just thinking to describe the situation.
19/08/2011 01:10:26 AM
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I'd like to see some examples of both sides accusing each other of treason.
18/08/2011 03:08:08 AM
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I am so not getting into this with you
18/08/2011 03:12:31 AM
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Rank and file will always have their irresponsible whack jobs; I'm talking about candidates.
18/08/2011 03:27:53 AM
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I'm not having this conversation
18/08/2011 03:46:54 AM
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I fail to see how he accused anyone of treason, or urged violence, but OK.
18/08/2011 03:56:05 AM
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He left it vague, so he gets away with promoting violence; that's "free speech" now.
18/08/2011 02:52:30 AM
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I love how liberals get their panties in a wad over almost anything
18/08/2011 02:03:43 PM
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Re: I love how liberals get their panties in a wad over almost anything
18/08/2011 03:10:41 PM
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that is a honest opinion I can respect it
18/08/2011 04:25:07 PM
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I took his comment to be something meant to appeal to the Tea Party segment, but came out wrong.
18/08/2011 06:53:34 PM
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Or you could just skip the R altogether if that's not what you want.
18/08/2011 07:15:47 PM
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Re: Or you could just skip the R altogether if that's not what you want.
18/08/2011 11:47:00 PM
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I am not sure what he was trying to do
18/08/2011 07:42:17 PM
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You're right; liberals like Karl Rove and Ron Paul are already criticizing his comment.
18/08/2011 09:56:26 PM
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Why do liberals always object when people urge political violence against us?
18/08/2011 05:52:05 PM
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So I guess the answer is liberals are just naturally paranoid
18/08/2011 06:45:30 PM
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Yeah, not sure why I bothered.
18/08/2011 07:09:34 PM
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how many riots will have because the left whips the masses into a frenzy with lies?
18/08/2011 07:23:45 PM
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Sorry you see no difference between attacking political policy & physically attacking policy makers.
18/08/2011 09:53:53 PM
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