It's opposition to birth control and sex ed.
Dreaded Anomaly Send a noteboard - 26/08/2011 01:06:38 AM
Birth Control & Sex Education, so much as it is opposition to paying for someone else's birth control and how the sex education is conducted?
Note that I'm not speaking of abortion in this post.
I find it....not appropriate...to force me to pay for someone else's birth control measures. Likewise, it is not the state's place to decide how to educate my (future) children in sex. I am going to instruct them in regards to that subject, not just from a fact/procedural aspect, but also with a philosophical belief structure. Many see it as necessary to have both aspects in regards to sex education. Since the state is not capable of teaching those philosophical beliefs on a student by student basis, many individuals believe that an important aspect of sex education is missed.
Yes, I acknowledge the fact that sex education can take place in health class. I also believe that it is appropriate to do so, however that class should not be offered until a later stage in teen development. Prior to that, the parents are in place to provide the basic introduction to the subject.
~Jeordam
Note that I'm not speaking of abortion in this post.
I find it....not appropriate...to force me to pay for someone else's birth control measures. Likewise, it is not the state's place to decide how to educate my (future) children in sex. I am going to instruct them in regards to that subject, not just from a fact/procedural aspect, but also with a philosophical belief structure. Many see it as necessary to have both aspects in regards to sex education. Since the state is not capable of teaching those philosophical beliefs on a student by student basis, many individuals believe that an important aspect of sex education is missed.
Yes, I acknowledge the fact that sex education can take place in health class. I also believe that it is appropriate to do so, however that class should not be offered until a later stage in teen development. Prior to that, the parents are in place to provide the basic introduction to the subject.
~Jeordam
I'd rather not pay for someone else's wars, either. Sometimes, our tax dollars go toward things we don't personally like. Either you oppose the entire system of democratic government and social action or you don't, but I don't care about whatever arbitrary standards of "appropriateness" you create to try to legitimize your personal preferences.
It's the state's place to make sure your children have, at the least, the facts regarding sex, just like any other topic. Many parents either don't have those facts or will refuse to provide them to their children. One of those facts is that long-lasting, reliable birth control exists, and will soon be free thanks to the PPACA. You can teach your children whatever "philosophical belief" about it that you want, but that doesn't change the reality.
As far as the timing of it, some students are becoming sexually active in middle school these days, with or without sex ed giving them a clear picture of reality. Holding it back just increases the chances of detrimental results.
All that is secondary to the point that Republicans and social conservatives have tried to eliminate real sex ed entirely and to paint birth control as ineffective.
Make the poor pay their fair share
23/08/2011 11:22:37 PM
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It is disgraceful that over 40% of households pay no federal income tax.....
23/08/2011 11:47:54 PM
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yes you should watch more comedy central so you can understand economics
24/08/2011 12:14:09 AM
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Sometimes reality sucks so bad that you need a joker to tell you the truth.
24/08/2011 12:26:50 AM
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that wouldn't be a valid even if anyone was suggesting a 50% tax bracket for anyone
24/08/2011 01:27:19 AM
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I'm not sure if you're missing the point or not.
24/08/2011 02:20:49 AM
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I repeat did you watch both videos?
24/08/2011 03:09:48 AM
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did you actually think about what you were watching?
24/08/2011 01:23:47 PM
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Here is what he said, since you are at work
24/08/2011 11:36:52 PM
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IN that case I stand firmly by my statement that is all BS
25/08/2011 12:08:24 AM
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The numbers barely change if you use income instead of wealth
25/08/2011 03:40:12 AM
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sorry again your fudging that is adjusted gross income what would the unadjusted gross be?
25/08/2011 02:30:06 PM
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I considered a progressive tax a feature not a bug
25/08/2011 08:36:48 PM
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I thought you were a flat taxer
25/08/2011 09:36:21 PM
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So you will not bring up your own numbers
25/08/2011 09:59:31 PM
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so just proving your numbers are wrong isn't enough?
26/08/2011 05:03:52 PM
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how are my numbers not valid? *NM*
27/08/2011 03:29:34 AM
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OK lets try something different
28/08/2011 03:24:27 PM
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When you say serious republican?
29/08/2011 12:47:40 AM
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Never had much sympathy for the poor
24/08/2011 02:18:57 AM
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While there is some truth to your argument ...
24/08/2011 02:29:28 AM
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Very true
24/08/2011 02:39:41 AM
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Not exclusively.
24/08/2011 02:48:58 AM
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Okay, I will be the mean guy and say it.....why have three kids
24/08/2011 03:18:27 AM
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That's what I've never understood
24/08/2011 03:24:20 AM
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That's what I assume as well.....but honestly.....
24/08/2011 03:32:59 AM
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What if everyone really did try their hardest?
24/08/2011 03:38:39 AM
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Illegals would cover those jobs and we will continue to look the other way -
24/08/2011 03:46:55 AM
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So you, as a Republican, approve of illegal immigration? *NM*
24/08/2011 03:49:26 AM
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In the scenario Nate illustrated, I would be more tolerant of illegals.
24/08/2011 03:53:23 AM
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Re: Okay, I will be the mean guy and say it.....why have three kids
24/08/2011 04:15:54 AM
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The first few weeks suck ...
24/08/2011 04:30:13 AM
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Celibacy is a choice, but chosen for the wrong reasons and it never works
24/08/2011 06:31:47 AM
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"Lifelong" is a stretch.....just long enough so you aren't poor anymore.
24/08/2011 05:03:30 AM
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What if you're one of those unfortunate souls who will never be a middle manager? No sex for you! *NM*
26/08/2011 04:24:36 PM
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Maybe you should stop voting for the people who oppose birth control and sex ed, then. *NM*
25/08/2011 06:10:15 AM
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Is it so much opposition to...
25/08/2011 09:18:12 PM
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It's opposition to birth control and sex ed.
26/08/2011 01:06:38 AM
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now that is true liberal thinking
26/08/2011 05:24:02 PM
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Neither you nor Jeordam has justified that position.
28/08/2011 12:05:51 AM
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wow you go deeper and deeper into the the land of far left crazy
28/08/2011 03:31:45 PM
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I don't view the "liberty" to teach lies to children as something that merits state investment.
29/08/2011 04:17:27 AM
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looks like someone has tuaght you a fair amount of lies
29/08/2011 02:01:29 PM
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I will take this as a concession since it contains nothing even close to legitimate objection. *NM*
29/08/2011 05:18:14 PM
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that should work since you do seem to be talented at believing what you want to be true is true *NM*
29/08/2011 05:45:17 PM
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who opposes birth control? *NM*
25/08/2011 09:37:04 PM
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Many religous groups such as Catholics, it is cultural as well *NM*
25/08/2011 10:01:39 PM
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From the context from this sub-thread, maybe the question was regarding specific politicians? *NM*
25/08/2011 11:21:32 PM
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I don't believe we have a chatloiuc party or any anti-birth control party *NM*
26/08/2011 05:15:56 PM
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The Republican party and social conservatives in general.
26/08/2011 12:52:32 AM
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so your answer is left wing talking points and damn reality?
26/08/2011 05:14:58 PM
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Reality leans left.
27/08/2011 11:56:00 PM
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you talking about reality is funny but it doesn't support your argument in the slighetest
28/08/2011 03:37:42 PM
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They blatantly lied about the effectiveness of birth control.
29/08/2011 04:14:17 AM
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Can you show me where Bush said that?
29/08/2011 02:03:53 PM
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No, I have most of the groups that taught abstinence-only.
29/08/2011 05:17:39 PM
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Funny.....
26/08/2011 05:54:38 PM
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Re: Funny.....
28/08/2011 12:15:25 AM
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I'll just comment on this one thought...
29/08/2011 11:58:08 PM
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The state does if the parent places their children in public education.
30/08/2011 03:58:29 AM
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The number of ridiculous stereotypes in your first paragraph are off the hook. Are you joking?
24/08/2011 02:53:13 AM
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Ridiculous stereotypes?
24/08/2011 03:03:52 AM
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You are much more right than wrong.....
24/08/2011 03:23:22 AM
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"Most poor people are lazy nowadays due to... welfare and government dependence."
24/08/2011 06:48:29 AM
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The truth sometimes sucks, but it is the truth nonetheless..... *NM*
24/08/2011 02:53:49 PM
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I agree for the most part
24/08/2011 03:27:21 AM
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*NM*
24/08/2011 03:42:26 AM
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Does this work?
24/08/2011 04:21:47 AM
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Tax hikes for unemployed homeless people to pay for an(other) "one time" corporate tax holiday.
26/08/2011 01:25:16 AM
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