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I think people misuse the word "celibacy" Aeryn Send a noteboard - 26/08/2011 04:27:27 PM
If you want less kids, then you need greater access to birth control, better education on birth control, and less stigma associated with it in certain areas of the population.


This part however I do agree with.

I was merely speaking from self-experience that celibacy is truly possible ... human beings are very capable of controlling their urges - trust me, or there would be alot more dead people right this very minute by my own hand. I fully disregard someone who says they couldn't control themselves (regardless of situation) ... it's utter horse shit.

Sometimes circumstances puts us in a tight squeeze where we have to react on "instinct", but I don't buy the statement you made that people will eventually "give in to it" ... they may give in to repeated temptation to doing whatever it is they are resisting, but considering they did not do what was necessary to put themselves out of "harms way" shows they truly did not want to resist in the first place, it's not instinct based.

That implies that man is a utterly illogical animal. And while we are indeed animals, we are not ruled by instinct.

Just my take,

-Roon


Celibacy isn't obstaining from sex until you're 21 years old. Or for a year or two or five. It means NEVER having sex. EVER. It is possible for people with very low sex drives, which will be a small percentage of the population, but it is not an option as public policy, or advice.
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Make the poor pay their fair share Roland00 - 23/08/2011 11:22:37 PM 1483 Views
Part 2 of 2 Roland00 - 23/08/2011 11:23:24 PM 856 Views
It is disgraceful that over 40% of households pay no federal income tax..... trzaska2000 - 23/08/2011 11:47:54 PM 836 Views
Did you even watch both videos? *NM* Roland00 - 24/08/2011 12:08:43 AM 342 Views
yes you should watch more comedy central so you can understand economics random thoughts - 24/08/2011 12:14:09 AM 782 Views
Sometimes reality sucks so bad that you need a joker to tell you the truth. Roland00 - 24/08/2011 12:26:50 AM 878 Views
that wouldn't be a valid even if anyone was suggesting a 50% tax bracket for anyone random thoughts - 24/08/2011 01:27:19 AM 721 Views
I'm not sure if you're missing the point or not. Nate - 24/08/2011 02:20:49 AM 903 Views
I believe... callandor1000 - 24/08/2011 03:59:00 AM 869 Views
no I heard what he say Ihe is just wrong *NM* random thoughts - 24/08/2011 11:46:54 AM 367 Views
no the point is Stewart is using a strawman argument then random thoughts - 24/08/2011 12:22:55 PM 878 Views
I repeat did you watch both videos? Roland00 - 24/08/2011 03:09:48 AM 720 Views
did you actually think about what you were watching? random thoughts - 24/08/2011 01:23:47 PM 826 Views
Here is what he said, since you are at work Roland00 - 24/08/2011 11:36:52 PM 740 Views
IN that case I stand firmly by my statement that is all BS random thoughts - 25/08/2011 12:08:24 AM 616 Views
The numbers barely change if you use income instead of wealth Roland00 - 25/08/2011 03:40:12 AM 761 Views
sorry again your fudging that is adjusted gross income what would the unadjusted gross be? random thoughts - 25/08/2011 02:30:06 PM 727 Views
I considered a progressive tax a feature not a bug Roland00 - 25/08/2011 08:36:48 PM 651 Views
I thought you were a flat taxer random thoughts - 25/08/2011 09:36:21 PM 740 Views
So you will not bring up your own numbers Roland00 - 25/08/2011 09:59:31 PM 643 Views
so just proving your numbers are wrong isn't enough? random thoughts - 26/08/2011 05:03:52 PM 709 Views
how are my numbers not valid? *NM* Roland00 - 27/08/2011 03:29:34 AM 353 Views
OK lets try something different random thoughts - 28/08/2011 03:24:27 PM 653 Views
When you say serious republican? Roland00 - 29/08/2011 12:47:40 AM 749 Views
I simple "no I can't defend it" would have worked *NM* random thoughts - 29/08/2011 02:00:11 PM 425 Views
Laughs, you are funny Roland00 - 30/08/2011 12:25:52 AM 684 Views
Never had much sympathy for the poor Dark Knight - 24/08/2011 02:18:57 AM 824 Views
While there is some truth to your argument ... Nate - 24/08/2011 02:29:28 AM 953 Views
Very true Dark Knight - 24/08/2011 02:39:41 AM 657 Views
Not exclusively. Nate - 24/08/2011 02:48:58 AM 741 Views
All those people you mentioned fall under "temporary" Dark Knight - 24/08/2011 03:06:04 AM 703 Views
Okay, I will be the mean guy and say it.....why have three kids trzaska2000 - 24/08/2011 03:18:27 AM 756 Views
That's what I've never understood Dark Knight - 24/08/2011 03:24:20 AM 741 Views
That's what I assume as well.....but honestly..... trzaska2000 - 24/08/2011 03:32:59 AM 587 Views
What if everyone really did try their hardest? Nate - 24/08/2011 03:38:39 AM 637 Views
Illegals would cover those jobs and we will continue to look the other way - trzaska2000 - 24/08/2011 03:46:55 AM 661 Views
So you, as a Republican, approve of illegal immigration? *NM* Macharius - 24/08/2011 03:49:26 AM 328 Views
In the scenario Nate illustrated, I would be more tolerant of illegals. trzaska2000 - 24/08/2011 03:53:23 AM 605 Views
Not possible Dark Knight - 24/08/2011 03:48:05 AM 744 Views
You have that in Eastern European countries Helene - 24/08/2011 11:05:07 PM 737 Views
There are several possibilities. Nate - 24/08/2011 03:30:32 AM 726 Views
Very true and very wise take ... Roonas - 24/08/2011 04:33:53 AM 663 Views
Re: Okay, I will be the mean guy and say it.....why have three kids Aeryn - 24/08/2011 04:15:54 AM 661 Views
The first few weeks suck ... Roonas - 24/08/2011 04:30:13 AM 723 Views
Celibacy is a choice, but chosen for the wrong reasons and it never works Roland00 - 24/08/2011 06:31:47 AM 745 Views
I found most of what you wrote tough to decipher ... Roonas - 24/08/2011 07:14:42 AM 793 Views
I think people misuse the word "celibacy" Aeryn - 26/08/2011 04:27:27 PM 806 Views
"Lifelong" is a stretch.....just long enough so you aren't poor anymore. trzaska2000 - 24/08/2011 05:03:30 AM 771 Views
What if you're one of those unfortunate souls who will never be a middle manager? No sex for you! *NM* Aeryn - 26/08/2011 04:24:36 PM 342 Views
Maybe you should stop voting for the people who oppose birth control and sex ed, then. *NM* Dreaded Anomaly - 25/08/2011 06:10:15 AM 289 Views
Is it so much opposition to... Jeordam - 25/08/2011 09:18:12 PM 740 Views
It's opposition to birth control and sex ed. Dreaded Anomaly - 26/08/2011 01:06:38 AM 652 Views
now that is true liberal thinking random thoughts - 26/08/2011 05:24:02 PM 747 Views
No joke. This thought process kind of puts me on edge. *NM* Jeordam - 26/08/2011 05:47:15 PM 373 Views
Neither you nor Jeordam has justified that position. Dreaded Anomaly - 28/08/2011 12:05:51 AM 669 Views
wow you go deeper and deeper into the the land of far left crazy random thoughts - 28/08/2011 03:31:45 PM 725 Views
I don't view the "liberty" to teach lies to children as something that merits state investment. Dreaded Anomaly - 29/08/2011 04:17:27 AM 928 Views
looks like someone has tuaght you a fair amount of lies random thoughts - 29/08/2011 02:01:29 PM 597 Views
I will take this as a concession since it contains nothing even close to legitimate objection. *NM* Dreaded Anomaly - 29/08/2011 05:18:14 PM 275 Views
that should work since you do seem to be talented at believing what you want to be true is true *NM* random thoughts - 29/08/2011 05:45:17 PM 330 Views
I can comment on this one.... Jeordam - 29/08/2011 11:51:40 PM 780 Views
Re: I can comment on this one.... Dreaded Anomaly - 30/08/2011 03:54:07 AM 661 Views
who opposes birth control? *NM* random thoughts - 25/08/2011 09:37:04 PM 389 Views
Many religous groups such as Catholics, it is cultural as well *NM* Roland00 - 25/08/2011 10:01:39 PM 328 Views
From the context from this sub-thread, maybe the question was regarding specific politicians? *NM* Jeordam - 25/08/2011 11:21:32 PM 350 Views
I don't believe we have a chatloiuc party or any anti-birth control party *NM* random thoughts - 26/08/2011 05:15:56 PM 354 Views
The Republican party and social conservatives in general. Dreaded Anomaly - 26/08/2011 12:52:32 AM 741 Views
so your answer is left wing talking points and damn reality? random thoughts - 26/08/2011 05:14:58 PM 728 Views
Reality leans left. Dreaded Anomaly - 27/08/2011 11:56:00 PM 727 Views
you talking about reality is funny but it doesn't support your argument in the slighetest random thoughts - 28/08/2011 03:37:42 PM 609 Views
They blatantly lied about the effectiveness of birth control. Dreaded Anomaly - 29/08/2011 04:14:17 AM 615 Views
Can you show me where Bush said that? random thoughts - 29/08/2011 02:03:53 PM 694 Views
No, I have most of the groups that taught abstinence-only. Dreaded Anomaly - 29/08/2011 05:17:39 PM 718 Views
the little bit of slanted reality form a Waxman staffer? random thoughts - 29/08/2011 05:43:42 PM 730 Views
Talk about believing what you want to believe. Dreaded Anomaly - 30/08/2011 03:38:49 AM 633 Views
Funny..... Jeordam - 26/08/2011 05:54:38 PM 717 Views
Re: Funny..... Dreaded Anomaly - 28/08/2011 12:15:25 AM 636 Views
I'll just comment on this one thought... Jeordam - 29/08/2011 11:58:08 PM 758 Views
The state does if the parent places their children in public education. Dreaded Anomaly - 30/08/2011 03:58:29 AM 754 Views
The number of ridiculous stereotypes in your first paragraph are off the hook. Are you joking? everynametaken - 24/08/2011 02:53:13 AM 577 Views
Ridiculous stereotypes? Dark Knight - 24/08/2011 03:03:52 AM 758 Views
You are much more right than wrong..... trzaska2000 - 24/08/2011 03:23:22 AM 667 Views
"Most poor people are lazy nowadays due to... welfare and government dependence." Ghavrel - 24/08/2011 06:48:29 AM 677 Views
The truth sometimes sucks, but it is the truth nonetheless..... *NM* trzaska2000 - 24/08/2011 02:53:49 PM 341 Views
I agree for the most part Roland00 - 24/08/2011 03:27:21 AM 586 Views
Woah woah woah. You had me until the end LadyLorraine - 25/08/2011 09:21:50 AM 715 Views
I know the chances of that are very slim Roland00 - 25/08/2011 01:07:41 PM 632 Views
This video is unavailable from your location *NM* Colonel Logain - 24/08/2011 03:42:26 AM 332 Views
Does this work? Roland00 - 24/08/2011 04:21:47 AM 581 Views
Still only visible from the States... Colonel Logain - 24/08/2011 04:27:32 AM 582 Views
Not so, the first link works for me here. Joel - 26/08/2011 01:31:18 AM 650 Views
Tax hikes for unemployed homeless people to pay for an(other) "one time" corporate tax holiday. Joel - 26/08/2011 01:25:16 AM 745 Views
Crap presentation of an important issue. Vodalus - 26/08/2011 05:32:46 AM 829 Views
no one thinks a family of four can live on that random thoughts - 26/08/2011 05:28:49 PM 609 Views
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