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I did, but it's not really pertinent to most of our comments Isaac Send a noteboard - 08/09/2011 04:02:42 AM
The manipulation here is blatant. I am disgusted when either side uses these tactics.


For the most part the right is objecting to the double standard, not claiming Hoffa was encouraging violence but rather that every time a conservative uses 'combative words' there's a media flash fire. It hasn't even been a year since many people, including many on this site, attempted to blame the acts of a mass murderer on political figures of the right for using language far less combative than Hoffa's.

I don't think that he was advocating taking them out with mobs weilding ballot boxes. Pretty sure he was talking about taking them out by using the right to vote. Duh.


Doubtless so, although in Hoffa and the Teamsters case there is actually some room to think twice on that, there's has not been a history unblemished with violent or underhanded behavior.
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Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event: "Take These Son Of Bitches Out" trzaska2000 - 05/09/2011 07:42:59 PM 793 Views
What a douchbag *NM* Urza - 05/09/2011 08:37:00 PM 165 Views
erm, isn't that that guy who died/vanished mysteriously ages ago? *NM* Yunalesca - 05/09/2011 08:46:20 PM 204 Views
This is junior.....apple doesn't fall far does it? *NM* trzaska2000 - 05/09/2011 09:01:47 PM 176 Views
I'm pretty sure it's actually his zombie... and what, no in the title? *NM* Isaac - 05/09/2011 09:14:42 PM 184 Views
I decided to give everyone a short break from the thumbs, it's a Labor Day present! *NM* trzaska2000 - 05/09/2011 10:22:44 PM 202 Views
Violent rhetoric from the teamsters is not surprising Isaac - 05/09/2011 09:27:54 PM 567 Views
I was sans internet after the 1st. Joel - 12/09/2011 10:32:55 PM 432 Views
Fair enough Isaac - 12/09/2011 11:03:10 PM 462 Views
Re: Fair enough Joel - 13/09/2011 12:47:19 AM 451 Views
No disagreement in principle Isaac - 13/09/2011 03:55:19 AM 557 Views
Sounds like our only disagreement is over where to strike the balance. Joel - 15/09/2011 12:36:50 PM 384 Views
you think saying we would treat someone ugly is grounds for prosecution. Now that is scary *NM* random thoughts - 12/09/2011 11:32:24 PM 263 Views
Yeah, he left it vague enough to avoid responsibility for anything a supporter did at his urging. Joel - 13/09/2011 12:53:34 AM 498 Views
you mena he left it vague enough for people who really want to believe it was a threat random thoughts - 13/09/2011 02:01:29 PM 488 Views
I'm still not sure what non-threatening hostile ACTS you think he was suggesting. Joel - 13/09/2011 02:34:09 PM 446 Views
No, union leaders = criminals, union leaders = thugs. Tom - 05/09/2011 09:43:25 PM 493 Views
Yeah, cause violent rhetoric works so well with Liberal Ideology. Dannymac - 05/09/2011 10:54:11 PM 452 Views
of course it does you just live in denial *NM* random thoughts - 06/09/2011 01:39:03 AM 245 Views
Shows what you know. I've never even BEEN to Egypt. *NM* Dannymac - 06/09/2011 03:15:17 PM 164 Views
Obama/WH = coward.....no comment on remarks by union d-head. trzaska2000 - 06/09/2011 04:50:42 PM 522 Views
And yet, you never expect GOP leadership to call out their hotheads. Dannymac - 06/09/2011 06:31:14 PM 381 Views
no the definition of hypocrisy would be the none stop whining about tone we hear from the left random thoughts - 06/09/2011 06:51:52 PM 335 Views
If you'll notice, I have condemned it in this thread. twice. Dannymac - 06/09/2011 07:12:54 PM 366 Views
yes but only so you could make your "but the republicans are worse" comments random thoughts - 06/09/2011 08:07:37 PM 441 Views
random is right - I/my side weren't the ones whining about civility for months..... trzaska2000 - 06/09/2011 08:29:12 PM 360 Views
I would be dissappointed in Obama if he did apologize. The video you watched was doctored. Tashmere - 08/09/2011 01:35:39 AM 397 Views
when you compare what Hoffa said vs what people got upset about Palin saying Palin wins random thoughts - 08/09/2011 05:03:18 AM 354 Views
That was stupid too. I just want to throttle people when they get stupid about interpreting crap Tashmere - 09/09/2011 01:37:02 AM 332 Views
So nobody at all bothered to look for an unedited version of the speech? Really? Tashmere - 08/09/2011 12:04:50 AM 531 Views
I did, but it's not really pertinent to most of our comments Isaac - 08/09/2011 04:02:42 AM 370 Views
I'm not so much objecting to him as much as I am advocating having him shot by Pinkertons *NM* Urza - 08/09/2011 05:37:10 AM 183 Views
I am tired of anyone getting their panties in a bunch on purpose because they choose to interpret Tashmere - 09/09/2011 01:43:14 AM 686 Views
+1 *NM* random thoughts - 12/09/2011 11:30:52 PM 270 Views
You're preaching to the choir Isaac - 12/09/2011 11:46:08 PM 486 Views
For me that video changes nothing; his rhetorical imagery was unacceptably violent. Joel - 12/09/2011 10:28:00 PM 450 Views
I don't think that we can afford to watch every single little thing we say and obliterate any Tashmere - 13/09/2011 12:56:34 AM 414 Views
Terms from fighting probably can't be ignored; terms from war can be. Joel - 13/09/2011 02:07:17 AM 529 Views
get your facts straight random thoughts - 13/09/2011 03:39:29 AM 398 Views
I did: "Addressing a political rally in Iowa on Monday... Joel - 13/09/2011 04:26:57 AM 607 Views
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