you think saying we would treat someone ugly is grounds for prosecution. Now that is scary *NM*
random thoughts Send a noteboard - 12/09/2011 11:32:24 PM
And in their case it often tends not to be rhetoric, I'm moderately indifferent though I am a bit curious to see if anyone will call him out on it who previously threw a fit about violent rhetoric.
And didn't hear about it until trzaskas thread here, but it's every bit as bad as the rhetoric in which Perry and Palin have indulged (in fact, I think it's probably worse). As I said of them and reiterated to Tash now, in the current tense climate we can't afford to go around casting our political conflicts as "wars" in which our supporters are "armies" who must "take out" opponents, then excuse it by simply tacking on "peacefullyofcourse" as an afterthought. Desperate angry zealots do enough deadly things without political leaders actively inciting them; anyone who does that deliberately lacks the decency to lead and anyone who does so thoughtlessly lacks the judgement.
EDIT: And just to be clear, I'd fully support prosecuting Hoffa for reckless endangerment in response to his comments, just as I would Perry in response to his comments about Bernanke etc. etc. It's vitally important that inciting violence is tolerated no more in those with whom we share political goals than in those we oppose; it MUST be unacceptable in EVERYONE.
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Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event: "Take These Son Of Bitches Out"
05/09/2011 07:42:59 PM
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erm, isn't that that guy who died/vanished mysteriously ages ago? *NM*
05/09/2011 08:46:20 PM
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This is junior.....apple doesn't fall far does it? *NM*
05/09/2011 09:01:47 PM
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I'm pretty sure it's actually his zombie... and what, no in the title? *NM*
05/09/2011 09:14:42 PM
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I decided to give everyone a short break from the thumbs, it's a Labor Day present! *NM*
05/09/2011 10:22:44 PM
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Violent rhetoric from the teamsters is not surprising
05/09/2011 09:27:54 PM
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I was sans internet after the 1st.
12/09/2011 10:32:55 PM
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Fair enough
12/09/2011 11:03:10 PM
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Re: Fair enough
13/09/2011 12:47:19 AM
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No disagreement in principle
13/09/2011 03:55:19 AM
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Sounds like our only disagreement is over where to strike the balance.
15/09/2011 12:36:50 PM
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you think saying we would treat someone ugly is grounds for prosecution. Now that is scary *NM*
12/09/2011 11:32:24 PM
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Yeah, he left it vague enough to avoid responsibility for anything a supporter did at his urging.
13/09/2011 12:53:34 AM
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you mena he left it vague enough for people who really want to believe it was a threat
13/09/2011 02:01:29 PM
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I'm still not sure what non-threatening hostile ACTS you think he was suggesting.
13/09/2011 02:34:09 PM
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Yeah, cause violent rhetoric works so well with Liberal Ideology.
05/09/2011 10:54:11 PM
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Obama/WH = coward.....no comment on remarks by union d-head.
06/09/2011 04:50:42 PM
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And yet, you never expect GOP leadership to call out their hotheads.
06/09/2011 06:31:14 PM
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no the definition of hypocrisy would be the none stop whining about tone we hear from the left
06/09/2011 06:51:52 PM
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If you'll notice, I have condemned it in this thread. twice.
06/09/2011 07:12:54 PM
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yes but only so you could make your "but the republicans are worse" comments
06/09/2011 08:07:37 PM
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random is right - I/my side weren't the ones whining about civility for months.....
06/09/2011 08:29:12 PM
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I would be dissappointed in Obama if he did apologize. The video you watched was doctored.
08/09/2011 01:35:39 AM
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when you compare what Hoffa said vs what people got upset about Palin saying Palin wins
08/09/2011 05:03:18 AM
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That was stupid too. I just want to throttle people when they get stupid about interpreting crap
09/09/2011 01:37:02 AM
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So nobody at all bothered to look for an unedited version of the speech? Really?
08/09/2011 12:04:50 AM
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I did, but it's not really pertinent to most of our comments
08/09/2011 04:02:42 AM
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I'm not so much objecting to him as much as I am advocating having him shot by Pinkertons *NM*
08/09/2011 05:37:10 AM
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I am tired of anyone getting their panties in a bunch on purpose because they choose to interpret
09/09/2011 01:43:14 AM
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For me that video changes nothing; his rhetorical imagery was unacceptably violent.
12/09/2011 10:28:00 PM
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I don't think that we can afford to watch every single little thing we say and obliterate any
13/09/2011 12:56:34 AM
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Terms from fighting probably can't be ignored; terms from war can be.
13/09/2011 02:07:17 AM
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