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Sorry, didn't see this until now. Joel Send a noteboard - 27/09/2011 11:31:39 PM
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You're comparing apples to oranges

Yes, I was, and being flippantly dismissive into the bargain, but there is one level, the level on which I was being serious, where the comparison is valid: Flat wages are no more a realistic or practical solution than flat taxes.

But, yes, wages and salaries are determined by all powerful market forces that say multinational executives can only hoard their companies profits up to the point where their Chinese employees have wages high enough to stay alive and working for less than American employees "too good" to work for less than what it takes to keep THEM alive. There are few laws on the matter, and illegal immigration allows many companies to ignore minimum wage laws in the US just as the incestuous relationship between Wall Street and the SEC (whichever party's in office) allows investment banks to defraud their clients with credit default swaps on mortgages they knew were bad, then pass the scant fines for their illegal actions along to the same investors they already defrauded. I'm still rather stunned that the PERSONAL fines for the fiasco that caused the infamous GLOBAL Financial Crisis amounted to a total of $160,000 against two people. "You made billions on knowingly fraudulent 'investment' that destroyed national economies; pay $100,000 and don't do it again! ><img class=' />" What a joke, and the most pathetic part is that the "regulators" responsible for that travesty weren't evil corporate Republican stooges, but buddies of NYs two DEMOCRATIC Senators who are every bit as corruptly corporate.

In light of all that it's really hard to believe that the criminals responsible for wrecking the entire planets economy are being unfairly abused by the American legal system. Most of the nations federal debt is owed to them, not China, but the perpetrators of the greatest investment fraud in history still expect the US government to pay a return on THEIR investments--they just won't cough up any of the tax money said government needs to do that.
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Ok so increasing taxes on people making 1million+ is also NOT ok with Republicans - 18/09/2011 04:43:29 PM 1238 Views
You act surprised, this has been said since the beginning, openly and repeatedly - 18/09/2011 05:48:57 PM 604 Views
is this pledge legally binding? - 18/09/2011 06:52:44 PM 536 Views
Re: is this pledge legally binding? - 18/09/2011 08:14:49 PM 749 Views
read my lips still haunts them *NM* - 18/09/2011 08:23:29 PM 458 Views
And with good reason - 18/09/2011 08:38:10 PM 697 Views
That's rather easy though, isn't it? - 18/09/2011 09:02:49 PM 749 Views
Not really - 18/09/2011 10:02:12 PM 703 Views
Many will find any pledge unreasonable. - 19/09/2011 07:01:20 AM 651 Views
and if a republican becomes president, i'm sure all taxes will go up in 2013 - 20/09/2011 04:39:21 PM 777 Views
????? - 20/09/2011 07:16:00 PM 618 Views
Well, I'm glad they've at least raised the income range they were discussing. *NM* - 18/09/2011 06:10:57 PM 331 Views
not that it really matters - 18/09/2011 06:57:21 PM 754 Views
Don't confuse posturing with actual positions. - 18/09/2011 08:59:42 PM 632 Views
NO TAX INCREASES ON ANYONE, NOT ONE PENNY..... - 18/09/2011 11:15:11 PM 763 Views
George Carlin has a great routine on shit and stuff - 19/09/2011 01:32:22 AM 670 Views
So you're solution is... do nothing? *NM* - 21/09/2011 03:39:06 AM 432 Views
Simple change the law so capital gains are considered income, that will increase taxes on the rich *NM* - 19/09/2011 01:21:41 AM 301 Views
They are already. - 19/09/2011 02:42:08 AM 538 Views
Maybe I should be clearer - 19/09/2011 02:59:34 AM 695 Views
I've long felt the capital gains rate has ruined public companies - 19/09/2011 05:13:40 AM 600 Views
I agree with all that *NM* - 19/09/2011 01:00:35 PM 425 Views
There should be a set tax percentage that every US citizen pays. *NM* - 19/09/2011 01:25:13 PM 342 Views
+1 - a flat tax, with no or limited deductions is the way to go *NM* - 19/09/2011 03:16:53 PM 285 Views
Agreed - 19/09/2011 03:46:47 PM 697 Views
"Deserve's got nothin' to do with it." - 20/09/2011 02:48:19 PM 682 Views
I fully advocate massive cuts to both entitlement programs and military spending *NM* - 20/09/2011 11:53:10 PM 319 Views
I suspected that, but wasn't sure. - 25/09/2011 03:03:47 PM 771 Views
I was just going to say the same thing - 19/09/2011 08:23:39 PM 864 Views
Why not a fixed wage for all US workers; then the problem solves itself. - 20/09/2011 01:56:35 PM 563 Views
Wages are set by economic factors, not the government - 20/09/2011 07:46:18 PM 526 Views
well they wouldn't be in a worker's paradise *NM* - 20/09/2011 08:25:56 PM 299 Views
Sorry, didn't see this until now. - 27/09/2011 11:31:39 PM 770 Views
That works if you get rid of regressive taxes like the sales tax. - 21/09/2011 04:34:07 PM 574 Views
a lot of people don't seem to understand that sales tax is a regressive tax - 21/09/2011 04:44:16 PM 633 Views
It doesn't have to be - 21/09/2011 07:45:31 PM 738 Views

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