The autonotifier has been erratic for me lately; not sure why.
Yes, I was, and being flippantly dismissive into the bargain, but there is one level, the level on which I was being serious, where the comparison is valid: Flat wages are no more a realistic or practical solution than flat taxes.
But, yes, wages and salaries are determined by all powerful market forces that say multinational executives can only hoard their companies profits up to the point where their Chinese employees have wages high enough to stay alive and working for less than American employees "too good" to work for less than what it takes to keep THEM alive. There are few laws on the matter, and illegal immigration allows many companies to ignore minimum wage laws in the US just as the incestuous relationship between Wall Street and the SEC (whichever party's in office) allows investment banks to defraud their clients with credit default swaps on mortgages they knew were bad, then pass the scant fines for their illegal actions along to the same investors they already defrauded. I'm still rather stunned that the PERSONAL fines for the fiasco that caused the infamous GLOBAL Financial Crisis amounted to a total of $160,000 against two people. "You made billions on knowingly fraudulent 'investment' that destroyed national economies; pay $100,000 and don't do it again!
' />" What a joke, and the most pathetic part is that the "regulators" responsible for that travesty weren't evil corporate Republican stooges, but buddies of NYs two DEMOCRATIC Senators who are every bit as corruptly corporate.
In light of all that it's really hard to believe that the criminals responsible for wrecking the entire planets economy are being unfairly abused by the American legal system. Most of the nations federal debt is owed to them, not China, but the perpetrators of the greatest investment fraud in history still expect the US government to pay a return on THEIR investments--they just won't cough up any of the tax money said government needs to do that.
You're comparing apples to oranges
Yes, I was, and being flippantly dismissive into the bargain, but there is one level, the level on which I was being serious, where the comparison is valid: Flat wages are no more a realistic or practical solution than flat taxes.
But, yes, wages and salaries are determined by all powerful market forces that say multinational executives can only hoard their companies profits up to the point where their Chinese employees have wages high enough to stay alive and working for less than American employees "too good" to work for less than what it takes to keep THEM alive. There are few laws on the matter, and illegal immigration allows many companies to ignore minimum wage laws in the US just as the incestuous relationship between Wall Street and the SEC (whichever party's in office) allows investment banks to defraud their clients with credit default swaps on mortgages they knew were bad, then pass the scant fines for their illegal actions along to the same investors they already defrauded. I'm still rather stunned that the PERSONAL fines for the fiasco that caused the infamous GLOBAL Financial Crisis amounted to a total of $160,000 against two people. "You made billions on knowingly fraudulent 'investment' that destroyed national economies; pay $100,000 and don't do it again!

In light of all that it's really hard to believe that the criminals responsible for wrecking the entire planets economy are being unfairly abused by the American legal system. Most of the nations federal debt is owed to them, not China, but the perpetrators of the greatest investment fraud in history still expect the US government to pay a return on THEIR investments--they just won't cough up any of the tax money said government needs to do that.
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Slightly better than chocolate.
Love still can't be coerced.
Please Don't Eat the Newbies!

LoL. Be well, RAFOlk.
Ok so increasing taxes on people making 1million+ is also NOT ok with Republicans
18/09/2011 04:43:29 PM
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You act surprised, this has been said since the beginning, openly and repeatedly
18/09/2011 05:48:57 PM
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is this pledge legally binding?
18/09/2011 06:52:44 PM
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Re: is this pledge legally binding?
18/09/2011 08:14:49 PM
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That's rather easy though, isn't it?
18/09/2011 09:02:49 PM
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Not really
18/09/2011 10:02:12 PM
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Many will find any pledge unreasonable.
19/09/2011 07:01:20 AM
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Too bad for them, any pledge stands or falls on its own merits just like in real life
19/09/2011 08:35:13 PM
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If elected I pledge not to post on the RPMB.
20/09/2011 01:54:00 PM
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That didn't really make sense
20/09/2011 07:26:40 PM
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Sure it does: Pledging to do what one wanted to do anyway is rhetoric, not principle.
20/09/2011 08:04:25 PM
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Now you're debating with the definition of the word
20/09/2011 08:22:53 PM
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No, I accept the definition of the word, but reject cynical abuse of it.
21/09/2011 01:37:01 AM
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Could have done with out the kegger imagery
But this just makes it your opinion
21/09/2011 02:10:47 AM
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There is a problem with compromise in this situation and lot of it the way it is being framed
19/09/2011 02:57:32 PM
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and if a republican becomes president, i'm sure all taxes will go up in 2013
20/09/2011 04:39:21 PM
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Well, I'm glad they've at least raised the income range they were discussing. *NM*
18/09/2011 06:10:57 PM
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This really doesn't address what Buffet was talking about, but that's not a surprise either.
18/09/2011 08:35:25 PM
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Simple change the law so capital gains are considered income, that will increase taxes on the rich *NM*
19/09/2011 01:21:41 AM
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They are already.
19/09/2011 02:42:08 AM
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Maybe I should be clearer
19/09/2011 02:59:34 AM
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I've long felt the capital gains rate has ruined public companies
19/09/2011 05:13:40 AM
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Actually, I think you AND Tom, as well as Isaac, are right.
19/09/2011 07:13:56 AM
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Class warfare doesn't work.....if it did, the R's would not have kicked butt in 2010
19/09/2011 03:21:17 PM
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"If there's a class war in this country, my class is winning."--Warren Buffet
20/09/2011 07:54:45 PM
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There should be a set tax percentage that every US citizen pays. *NM*
19/09/2011 01:25:13 PM
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+1 - a flat tax, with no or limited deductions is the way to go *NM*
19/09/2011 03:16:53 PM
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Agreed
19/09/2011 03:46:47 PM
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"Deserve's got nothin' to do with it."
20/09/2011 02:48:19 PM
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I fully advocate massive cuts to both entitlement programs and military spending *NM*
20/09/2011 11:53:10 PM
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And every child should be adequately fed and recieve a good education *NM*
19/09/2011 10:40:58 PM
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Why not a fixed wage for all US workers; then the problem solves itself.
20/09/2011 01:56:35 PM
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Wages are set by economic factors, not the government
20/09/2011 07:46:18 PM
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Sorry, didn't see this until now.
27/09/2011 11:31:39 PM
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That works if you get rid of regressive taxes like the sales tax.
21/09/2011 04:34:07 PM
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a lot of people don't seem to understand that sales tax is a regressive tax
21/09/2011 04:44:16 PM
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It doesn't have to be
21/09/2011 07:45:31 PM
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Your solution is to tax people's savings? Tax "money storage", so that would be banks, right?
21/09/2011 10:29:36 PM
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