But the targeting is determined by how much money account holders semi-permanently loan banks.
Joel Send a noteboard - 01/10/2011 05:49:57 AM
Often at no interest; that rather inverts the natural and proper order of things.
People can vote with their feet, find another bank, stuff their mattresses or whatever. I'm not defending BoA so much as pointing out the obvious.
Fair enough, but it seems like both account holders and investors are voting with their wallets; in terms of making money, this seems another huge gaffe.
All banks are down right now. The scary thing is whether the media makes it such a PR disaster that the non-targeted customers start withdrawing money to go elsewhere.
Banks are not down; that is why we have a federal government: To give them money when they steal what their investors and account holders gave them.
Steal isn't the right word, but yeah, I more or less agree. Private profit and public loss is ridiculous. However, some of BoA's troubles stem from the takeover of Countrywide, which was done on the orders of the government.
Some, but some of it was spending $20 billion of that bailout money to snatch up Merrill Lynch--which just reminds me that repealing Glass-Steagall unleashed the very larcenous (or fraudulent; semantics) greed it was created to end, leading to collapsing housing bubbles and the GFC. If a bank owns enough investment firms with lots of credit default swaps it has incentive to issue bad mortages, though that is hardly the only problem with permitting such mergers.
Getting kind of far afield here, but what it boils down to for me is that the GOP spent half a century repealing the New Deal bit by bit until they got us right back where we were in 1929. How I loathe supply side economics; I just hope we can avoid a global war for our trouble this time.... *vomits*
That is what that amounts to, right? I agree with Tim: As long as account holders are in the black, the bank owes them, not the reverse.
People can vote with their feet, find another bank, stuff their mattresses or whatever. I'm not defending BoA so much as pointing out the obvious.
Fair enough, but it seems like both account holders and investors are voting with their wallets; in terms of making money, this seems another huge gaffe.
All banks are down right now. The scary thing is whether the media makes it such a PR disaster that the non-targeted customers start withdrawing money to go elsewhere.
Banks are not down; that is why we have a federal government: To give them money when they steal what their investors and account holders gave them.
Steal isn't the right word, but yeah, I more or less agree. Private profit and public loss is ridiculous. However, some of BoA's troubles stem from the takeover of Countrywide, which was done on the orders of the government.
Some, but some of it was spending $20 billion of that bailout money to snatch up Merrill Lynch--which just reminds me that repealing Glass-Steagall unleashed the very larcenous (or fraudulent; semantics) greed it was created to end, leading to collapsing housing bubbles and the GFC. If a bank owns enough investment firms with lots of credit default swaps it has incentive to issue bad mortages, though that is hardly the only problem with permitting such mergers.
Getting kind of far afield here, but what it boils down to for me is that the GOP spent half a century repealing the New Deal bit by bit until they got us right back where we were in 1929. How I loathe supply side economics; I just hope we can avoid a global war for our trouble this time.... *vomits*
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Last First in wotmania Chat
Slightly better than chocolate.
Love still can't be coerced.
Please Don't Eat the Newbies!
LoL. Be well, RAFOlk.
Bank of America faces outrage over debit card charge
- 30/09/2011 06:27:03 PM
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I'm so glad I don't bank with them.
- 30/09/2011 07:01:32 PM
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I just went to TD for my personal acount today...we are still looking for our joint account... *NM*
- 30/09/2011 08:15:57 PM
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screw all the big banks
- 30/09/2011 07:19:36 PM
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I love my credit union, so drama free. I would never switch to a bank. *NM*
- 01/10/2011 03:04:39 AM
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Yeah, do more of what made folks mad enough to pass a federal law and kill your stock price. 
- 30/09/2011 08:35:19 PM
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- 30/09/2011 08:35:19 PM
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Hopefully this means no-one will dare do that here, having seen the reaction.
- 30/09/2011 11:11:29 PM
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Can't believe they're still in business. They are a shame to the human race. *NM*
- 30/09/2011 11:26:32 PM
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You mean BoA, not banks in general, right? 
- 01/10/2011 02:41:36 AM
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- 01/10/2011 02:41:36 AM
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Maintaining a modest sum of money in checking/savings/CDs obviates this charge and most others
- 01/10/2011 02:02:51 AM
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Hm?
- 01/10/2011 02:12:41 AM
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Right. It's not an issue if the combined total meets BoAs requirement.
- 01/10/2011 02:33:15 AM
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The bank may have the right to protect itself from losing money
- 01/10/2011 03:15:52 AM
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Yes, but griping about pains arising from symptoms does nothing to cure the disease.
- 01/10/2011 03:25:29 AM
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I'm still right. 
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- 01/10/2011 04:23:06 AM
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- 01/10/2011 04:23:06 AM
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As long as account holders indefinitely surrender enough of their money for the bank to invest?
- 01/10/2011 02:35:49 AM
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No. I mean BoA doesn't want to have clients who cost money rather than make money for the bank.
- 01/10/2011 02:57:20 AM
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Well, charging people $5/month to use their own money will not accomplish that goal.
- 01/10/2011 03:24:07 AM
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Sure it will. They'll pay the fees or they'll leave. Either way BoA wins on that front.
- 01/10/2011 03:31:23 AM
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I suppose, if turning the departure of account holders into a stampede counts as "winning."
- 01/10/2011 04:18:11 AM
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If it's limited to the targeted account holders, the unprofitable ones, then it is winning.
- 01/10/2011 04:53:20 AM
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But the targeting is determined by how much money account holders semi-permanently loan banks.
- 01/10/2011 05:49:57 AM
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Love my credit union, I would never use a bank if I absolutely didn't have too. Go CUs! 
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- 01/10/2011 03:06:21 AM
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- 01/10/2011 03:06:21 AM
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