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His speeches do have a clear socialist agenda; too bad none of his policies have a hint of one. Joel Send a noteboard - 20/10/2011 10:25:01 AM
And Obama IS a socialist. No matter how he tries to dress it up and word his arguments, his actions speak ten times louder. I have not seen one domestic policy from Obama that does not equate to socialism and socialist policy and I have been looking for one. I listened to his campaign in 2008, but I did not stop listening at the rhetoric. His speeches, since he began running indicated a clear socialist agenda and that is something I have never agreed with. Since he has been in office, it has only continued and is slowly getting more overt.

If Obamas corporate welfare qualifies as "socialism" the GOP has a problem, because every Republican from Ulysses Grant to Ronald Reagan was up their necks in "socialism." In terms of nationalizing and/or controlling any industries, the closest Obama came was when he had the feds buy up enough GM stock to keep the company from declaring bankruptcy, but even that is temporary (GM has already bought back over half that stock, though it seems a $35 billion retirement fund shortfall will probably prevent additional repurchases in the near future.) More significantly, as with the bank bailouts, a primary criticism of that free tax payer money was that it was not accompanied by any government oversight or management of businesses managed so badly they not only bankrupted themselvs, but much of the planet along with them. In other words, even in the ONE company (not industry) where the government took controlling interest it was only as a silent partner that had no management role, and even that controlling interest no longer exists (though the feds do still have 27% of GM stock.)
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So I am curious. What do our site conservatives think of Cain? - 18/10/2011 09:35:47 AM 1020 Views
You'd probably be better off asking after tomorrow's debate - 18/10/2011 10:19:50 AM 832 Views
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MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! *NM* - 18/10/2011 06:44:55 PM 255 Views
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Well, abolishing Social Security is pretty far out there, and publicly threatening the Fed Chairman. - 18/10/2011 04:50:03 PM 815 Views
yes but I was talkin about his actuall posistions not the made up stuff *NM* - 18/10/2011 05:10:47 PM 334 Views
When the candidate "makes them up" they are positions. - 18/10/2011 05:26:18 PM 622 Views
all you need to do is provide a link supporting your claim that Perry said he wants to abolish SS - 18/10/2011 05:56:23 PM 558 Views
Really? Do you not watch the news? That's common knowledge *NM* - 18/10/2011 06:04:06 PM 248 Views
Really give me link *NM* - 18/10/2011 06:38:24 PM 251 Views
It is ridiculously simple; here ya go: - 18/10/2011 08:15:24 PM 665 Views
OK he doesn't like it now give me the link where he wants to abolish it - 18/10/2011 09:29:38 PM 597 Views
You see no conflict between this post and your next one? - 18/10/2011 10:16:21 PM 749 Views
no I don't - 18/10/2011 11:36:38 PM 678 Views
By his own statements he either wants to end it or violate the Constitution. - 19/10/2011 12:13:33 AM 648 Views
you really excell at misunderstanding *NM* - 19/10/2011 12:30:32 AM 272 Views
and Perry is right about SS being unconstitutional - 18/10/2011 09:44:14 PM 579 Views
And you criticize MY choice of "unbiased" sources.... - 18/10/2011 10:33:56 PM 743 Views
I'm not a conservative, but - 18/10/2011 04:56:22 PM 643 Views
*hi5* *NM* - 18/10/2011 05:05:19 PM 260 Views
More qualified to be President than Obama was at this stage. - 18/10/2011 07:40:33 PM 624 Views
So this is an "Anybody but Obama" election for you, then? *NM* - 19/10/2011 12:16:46 AM 245 Views
I thought that was a given, the reason Republicans will swallow their bile/tongues and vote Romney. - 19/10/2011 01:17:46 AM 658 Views
Not just anyone. That way lies more idiocy than ignoring lies and pandering. - 19/10/2011 07:23:18 AM 761 Views
His speeches do have a clear socialist agenda; too bad none of his policies have a hint of one. - 20/10/2011 10:25:01 AM 798 Views
Imagine there is no pizza *NM* - 19/10/2011 12:02:36 AM 271 Views
Cain is the anti-christ? *NM* - 19/10/2011 12:18:21 AM 229 Views
Post-debate, my opinion is fairly unchanged - 19/10/2011 06:35:32 AM 807 Views
Romney slapped Perry down so hard tonight. It was wonderful. - 19/10/2011 06:53:52 AM 693 Views
It was that, I rather enjoyed it - 19/10/2011 07:10:49 AM 642 Views
I promise - 19/10/2011 10:33:49 AM 736 Views
I can see the buttons now: "Vote for... something... maybe...!" - 20/10/2011 10:46:44 AM 1072 Views
...the words made sense by themselves, but when I put them together, meaning vanished. - 20/10/2011 11:33:46 AM 611 Views
Try sounding out each word. - 20/10/2011 11:59:25 AM 681 Views
let me ask you this about Cain - 19/10/2011 01:47:36 PM 731 Views
Why is that, would you think? - 19/10/2011 06:29:53 PM 667 Views
There just seems to be strong lack of good choices - 19/10/2011 06:50:25 PM 713 Views
I'm getting the same impression... not necessarily worse candidates, just more criticism. - 19/10/2011 08:37:21 PM 845 Views
I blame the press - 19/10/2011 09:05:36 PM 814 Views
Amen to that. I agree with everything you say. - 19/10/2011 09:49:45 PM 735 Views
I blame the public, and, to a lesser degree, Nielsen and Armitron. - 20/10/2011 11:39:43 AM 726 Views
tl;dr *NM* - 20/10/2011 12:19:03 PM 257 Views
Still prefer "TL;DV." - 20/10/2011 12:33:41 PM 747 Views
Re: There just seems to be strong lack of good choices - 20/10/2011 03:25:20 PM 953 Views
don't get me wrong I am not calling for a moderate - 20/10/2011 04:02:01 PM 862 Views
Re: let me ask you this about Cain - 20/10/2011 07:05:43 AM 657 Views

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