don't get me wrong I am not calling for a moderate
random thoughts Send a noteboard - 20/10/2011 04:02:01 PM
Just that we inned to get a little more intelligent about how we vet our candidates and that the press should take a more constructive role in the process. I also think that the people who want more depth are making a mistake when they want detailed position plans. Those are useful but not as useful as past performance as an indicator of future performance. If you want to bring radical change that is fine but you need to sell it honestly and you need to show you have a history of successfully bringing that sort of change. Why should we believe you can accomplish something grand if higher you when you have no record of grand accomplishments? Pretty speeches and interesting sounding plans are not enough. That is one of the reasons I wanted Hillary over Obama and the reason I am very worried about Cain. He has accomplished some interesting things when he was the CEO and owner of company and could make all the decisions but he has no track record of being able to pass legislation and implement policies when he can't just fire anyone who disagrees with him. If he was running for dictator his experience might apply but he is running to head one branch of the government and even that one he doesn't control completely.
If I was trying to take shots at liberals I would have pointed out that Obama ran on stopping the gotcha politics of personal attacks and then had his press secretary take cheap personal shots at Palin even though she was not running for any office at the time. One of the other things we need to do is stop accepting ad hominem attacks when the attacks are directed at people we don't like or crying about the how violent and radical the other side is and while ignoring the much worse behavior on our own side. The hypocrisies of attacking the Tea Party and defending the OWS is the sort of BS petty politics we need to get away from. Either you oppose violent rhetoric and civil disobedience or you support it. Either is a valid position but the "I support it for my side but oppose it for your side" really isn't a valid position.
If I was trying to take shots at liberals I would have pointed out that Obama ran on stopping the gotcha politics of personal attacks and then had his press secretary take cheap personal shots at Palin even though she was not running for any office at the time. One of the other things we need to do is stop accepting ad hominem attacks when the attacks are directed at people we don't like or crying about the how violent and radical the other side is and while ignoring the much worse behavior on our own side. The hypocrisies of attacking the Tea Party and defending the OWS is the sort of BS petty politics we need to get away from. Either you oppose violent rhetoric and civil disobedience or you support it. Either is a valid position but the "I support it for my side but oppose it for your side" really isn't a valid position.
So I am curious. What do our site conservatives think of Cain?
- 18/10/2011 09:35:47 AM
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I have trouble taking him seriously
- 18/10/2011 01:59:23 PM
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That is the problem with all Romneys opponents.
- 18/10/2011 03:32:50 PM
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what positions of Perry's do you consider radical?
- 18/10/2011 03:56:30 PM
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Well, abolishing Social Security is pretty far out there, and publicly threatening the Fed Chairman.
- 18/10/2011 04:50:03 PM
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yes but I was talkin about his actuall posistions not the made up stuff *NM*
- 18/10/2011 05:10:47 PM
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When the candidate "makes them up" they are positions.
- 18/10/2011 05:26:18 PM
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all you need to do is provide a link supporting your claim that Perry said he wants to abolish SS
- 18/10/2011 05:56:23 PM
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Really? Do you not watch the news? That's common knowledge *NM*
- 18/10/2011 06:04:06 PM
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I believe what RT means ...
- 18/10/2011 06:22:42 PM
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No it isn't a fine point
- 18/10/2011 06:48:00 PM
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He said he wants private retirement accounts instead, which is abolishing Social Security.
- 18/10/2011 10:44:33 PM
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Privatizing isn't the same as abolishing
- 18/10/2011 10:53:04 PM
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It is unless the governments role is more than "you MUST do this; figure out how on your own."
- 19/10/2011 12:10:25 AM
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Are you correcting yourself or qualifying your statement?
- 19/10/2011 06:30:34 AM
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Neither; laws requiring everyone do something do NOTHING themselves.
- 20/10/2011 10:10:31 AM
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The ALL CAPS stuff isn't helping to convince me that this isn't all kool-aid drenched hyperbole
- 20/10/2011 01:15:19 PM
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Some things are better off in private hands, but "natural dependcies" are not among those things.
- 20/10/2011 03:42:15 PM
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It is ridiculously simple; here ya go:
- 18/10/2011 08:15:24 PM
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OK he doesn't like it now give me the link where he wants to abolish it
- 18/10/2011 09:29:38 PM
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You see no conflict between this post and your next one? 
- 18/10/2011 10:16:21 PM
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- 18/10/2011 10:16:21 PM
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no I don't
- 18/10/2011 11:36:38 PM
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By his own statements he either wants to end it or violate the Constitution.
- 19/10/2011 12:13:33 AM
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you really excell at misunderstanding *NM*
- 19/10/2011 12:30:32 AM
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I understand you but disagree, because I also understand plain English.
- 19/10/2011 02:06:23 AM
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More qualified to be President than Obama was at this stage.
- 18/10/2011 07:40:33 PM
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I assume you're refering to his implemented policies of corporate welfare? *NM*
- 18/10/2011 07:46:07 PM
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He did say, "at this stage;" Obama has been a quick study at corporate welfare.
- 19/10/2011 01:19:39 AM
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So this is an "Anybody but Obama" election for you, then? *NM*
- 19/10/2011 12:16:46 AM
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I thought that was a given, the reason Republicans will swallow their bile/tongues and vote Romney.
- 19/10/2011 01:17:46 AM
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Not just anyone. That way lies more idiocy than ignoring lies and pandering.
- 19/10/2011 07:23:18 AM
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His speeches do have a clear socialist agenda; too bad none of his policies have a hint of one.
- 20/10/2011 10:25:01 AM
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Post-debate, my opinion is fairly unchanged
- 19/10/2011 06:35:32 AM
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Romney slapped Perry down so hard tonight. It was wonderful. 
- 19/10/2011 06:53:52 AM
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- 19/10/2011 06:53:52 AM
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It was that, I rather enjoyed it
- 19/10/2011 07:10:49 AM
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I promise
- 19/10/2011 10:33:49 AM
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I can see the buttons now: "Vote for... something... maybe...!"
- 20/10/2011 10:46:44 AM
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...the words made sense by themselves, but when I put them together, meaning vanished.
- 20/10/2011 11:33:46 AM
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let me ask you this about Cain
- 19/10/2011 01:47:36 PM
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Why is that, would you think?
- 19/10/2011 06:29:53 PM
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There just seems to be strong lack of good choices
- 19/10/2011 06:50:25 PM
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I'm getting the same impression... not necessarily worse candidates, just more criticism.
- 19/10/2011 08:37:21 PM
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I blame the press
- 19/10/2011 09:05:36 PM
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It's rare that I agree with you so fully. Politics is the demesne of soundbites. *NM*
- 20/10/2011 12:38:48 AM
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I blame the public, and, to a lesser degree, Nielsen and Armitron.
- 20/10/2011 11:39:43 AM
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Re: There just seems to be strong lack of good choices
- 20/10/2011 03:25:20 PM
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don't get me wrong I am not calling for a moderate
- 20/10/2011 04:02:01 PM
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