Active Users:1513 Time:19/10/2025 07:06:23 AM
I think it's great that student loans can't be discharged in bankruptcy. Tom Send a noteboard - 20/11/2011 06:27:27 PM
The idiotic sentiment that "all Americans should be able to go to college" ignores the question of who's going to pay for it. I am all in favor of higher education, but people stop being practical when they think that they can get a free education, or that they can declare bankruptcy and get out of a loan. People need to start looking at higher education for what it really is - an education, nothing more, nothing less - and stop thinking that the correlation between a college education and higher earnings is a direct consequence of the education (or "any" education). College graduates tend to be brighter, and enough of them go on to graduate schools or have degrees in useful subjects that these factors make it seem that a college education will increase one's earning potential.

In reality, we all know that a degree in philosophy will not, by itself, help you with anything. In fact, it will probably actually hurt you because the student debt is crushing. Furthermore, because more and more people get degrees in useless fields, there are more and more graduate students and professors for these fields, depressing the pay for academics.

I have nothing against getting degrees in these fields - I myself considered it on numerous occasions - but we need to be realistic. If you have no money and you're getting a student loan, you need to realize that you're taking on $100,000+ in debt that will need to be paid off. Getting a degree in "Comparative Women's Studies" from a third-rate university is not going to get you a job that will help you pay off this cost. You have to ask yourself long and hard - IS IT WORTH IT?

Any system that would remove this pressure is bad.
Political correctness is the pettiest form of casuistry.

ἡ δὲ κἀκ τριῶν τρυπημάτων ἐργαζομένη ἐνεκάλει τῇ φύσει, δυσφορουμένη, ὅτι δὴ μὴ καὶ τοὺς τιτθοὺς αὐτῇ εὐρύτερον ἢ νῦν εἰσι τρυπώη, ὅπως καὶ ἄλλην ἐνταῦθα μίξιν ἐπιτεχνᾶσθαι δυνατὴ εἴη. – Procopius

Ummaka qinnassa nīk!

*MySmiley*
Reply to message
An Open Letter to All People with Nothing Better To Do - 20/11/2011 10:49:21 AM 1877 Views
Huzah! A man chooses and a slave obeys! *NM* - 20/11/2011 10:56:42 AM 582 Views
Yeah, 'cos YTs comments are all about disobedience, and the OWSers are all about submission. - 20/11/2011 12:24:36 PM 996 Views
Actually, my comment are about taking responsibility for yourself. *NM* - 20/11/2011 05:48:33 PM 592 Views
Some of them are doing just that. - 21/11/2011 11:14:58 PM 901 Views
As usual you miss the point completely. *NM* - 20/11/2011 08:27:02 PM 587 Views
How much violence has there actually been? - 20/11/2011 12:35:54 PM 1000 Views
Re: How much violence has there actually been? - 20/11/2011 12:44:00 PM 1076 Views
Because it's easy. - 20/11/2011 12:49:02 PM 972 Views
I think it's great that student loans can't be discharged in bankruptcy. - 20/11/2011 06:27:27 PM 891 Views
Completely agree. *NM* - 20/11/2011 07:44:10 PM 649 Views
Asian parents have the right idea - 20/11/2011 08:49:39 PM 1019 Views
because that's not a huge generalization of an entire race... - 20/11/2011 09:05:26 PM 962 Views
every pakistani, indian, viet, chinese, cambodian person I know (and thats a lot) .... - 20/11/2011 09:27:34 PM 993 Views
I had a lot of asian peers in class growing up with parents who were not like that - 20/11/2011 10:35:45 PM 988 Views
You has? Sorry...it was too good to pass up. *NM* - 20/11/2011 10:40:48 PM 532 Views
lol! oops! *edit* fail. *NM* - 20/11/2011 10:42:33 PM 549 Views
I understand that, and agree to a certain extent. - 20/11/2011 11:53:30 PM 963 Views
Well... - 21/11/2011 05:39:09 AM 922 Views
Hm. Those are all very sensible points. Food for thought. *NM* - 21/11/2011 06:06:24 AM 487 Views
To take it a step further - 21/11/2011 02:36:49 AM 919 Views
I agree 100%. - 21/11/2011 05:41:40 AM 858 Views
they are. - 21/11/2011 06:55:27 PM 904 Views
HUZZAH! Very well said. - 20/11/2011 01:20:48 PM 970 Views
"There are plenty of jobs and pay"... Do you read the news? *NM* - 20/11/2011 12:42:30 PM 548 Views
Yep, there are lots of jobs... - 20/11/2011 05:49:58 PM 1005 Views
there ARE plenty of jobs - 20/11/2011 06:14:30 PM 1031 Views
Excercise in creative thinking... - 20/11/2011 06:45:49 PM 1002 Views
Take an economics course. Learn about structural unemployment. - 20/11/2011 11:50:40 PM 923 Views
*NM* - 21/11/2011 05:13:39 AM 536 Views
I'm sorry dude, but there ARE jobs. - 20/11/2011 07:21:21 PM 1002 Views
but what kind of jobs? - 20/11/2011 08:08:58 PM 814 Views
"My plastic surgeon" WTF Aisha - 20/11/2011 08:36:13 PM 1056 Views
Im a nurse - 20/11/2011 09:24:14 PM 944 Views
job that pay money - 20/11/2011 08:57:55 PM 974 Views
lets face it. all the jobs you just mentioned are jobs illegals take - 20/11/2011 09:35:07 PM 973 Views
Re: lets face it. all the jobs you just mentioned are jobs illegals take - 20/11/2011 10:29:16 PM 896 Views
Re: lets face it. all the jobs you just mentioned are jobs illegals take - 21/11/2011 12:19:52 AM 1003 Views
That's a shitty situation - 21/11/2011 12:24:20 AM 863 Views
While it is true that the plural of anecdote is not data... - 21/11/2011 12:34:35 AM 804 Views
no I realize that - 21/11/2011 12:57:06 AM 767 Views
First of all, I worked at a dairy and have a friend who busses tables. - 20/11/2011 10:32:39 PM 939 Views
Thats a big problem, Aisha - 22/11/2011 06:42:18 AM 873 Views
Not in Michigan. *NM* - 21/11/2011 05:11:40 AM 517 Views
...I feel like you've been getting all of your information from TV News. This isn't about bills. - 20/11/2011 04:35:13 PM 959 Views
Better question is have you been to any of them? - 20/11/2011 06:42:02 PM 1046 Views
I may need to be more concise about something - 20/11/2011 06:53:58 PM 973 Views
Re: Better question is have you been to any of them? - 20/11/2011 07:00:30 PM 842 Views
Wait...you think there is a problem with courts treating corporations as persons? - 20/11/2011 08:33:43 PM 900 Views
You know what he meant. - 20/11/2011 09:32:59 PM 967 Views
Pretty sure the inception of corporations was not 1886. - 22/11/2011 05:45:31 AM 926 Views
You do realize... - 22/11/2011 06:01:47 AM 878 Views
Almost anything CAN happen. - 22/11/2011 07:43:31 AM 945 Views
You're right. I will hand you your ass on this one. If you give me gloves before touching it. - 23/11/2011 02:26:35 PM 955 Views
That looks a little shaky. - 23/11/2011 05:42:39 PM 960 Views
Funny how once we as a society used protesting for non personal gain ... - 20/11/2011 08:49:37 PM 1007 Views
I love this post. *NM* - 20/11/2011 09:06:49 PM 531 Views
Good post - 20/11/2011 09:13:12 PM 958 Views
Then why don't the unemployed ... - 20/11/2011 10:36:36 PM 870 Views
The UN is clearly out of touch with reality. - 20/11/2011 10:44:44 PM 954 Views
"There is no right to work"? - 22/11/2011 05:50:30 AM 950 Views
Also, do you even have a job yet? *NM* - 22/11/2011 06:02:11 AM 510 Views
Ikke ennå. - 22/11/2011 07:28:27 AM 964 Views
A simple no would suffice. *NM* - 22/11/2011 07:32:27 AM 560 Views
Well, that was little more than a simple no. - 22/11/2011 07:57:11 AM 869 Views
So do you think there is no cause whatsoever for protest? - 21/11/2011 03:31:04 AM 964 Views
Re: So do you think there is no cause whatsoever for protest? - 22/11/2011 04:15:30 AM 919 Views
I am also not Dan. - 22/11/2011 06:08:06 AM 814 Views
Re: So do you think there is no cause whatsoever for protest? - 22/11/2011 06:47:25 AM 1009 Views
I don't think the protest is about being people feeling entitled - 22/11/2011 07:45:50 AM 1032 Views

Reply to Message