Active Users:662 Time:16/03/2026 09:34:25 AM
Some of them are doing just that. Joel Send a noteboard - 21/11/2011 11:14:58 PM
Not all, certainly; your criticisms are valid in many cases, just as there are plenty of Tea Partiers out there stockpiling guns to take on the commie gub'ment when it does abusive things like expect them to pay their taxes (though I think it is pretty clear which is more dangerous to the nation and public safety.) In most cases, however, that is another of the similarities between the bulk of the Tea Party and OWS: Part of taking responsibility for oneself is "ignor[ing] the ill begotten orders coming down from your organizers" and THEIR corporate-masters to vote, tenement and toil whereever those masters permit they live in squalor. Hence Adams mindlessly kneejerk epigram that "a man chooses and a slave obeys" IS so utterly mindless: A bunch of people gathering together to shout their refusal to conform and obey, to demand systemic change in the status quo, are not obedient slaves: Their refusal to be obedient slaves is the crux of the matter. Accusing them of the meek obedience they refuse while insisting they return to it is frankly bizarre.
Honorbound and honored to be Bonded to Mahtaliel Sedai
Last First in wotmania Chat
Slightly better than chocolate.

Love still can't be coerced.
Please Don't Eat the Newbies!

LoL. Be well, RAFOlk.
Reply to message
An Open Letter to All People with Nothing Better To Do - 20/11/2011 10:49:21 AM 1935 Views
Huzah! A man chooses and a slave obeys! *NM* - 20/11/2011 10:56:42 AM 607 Views
Yeah, 'cos YTs comments are all about disobedience, and the OWSers are all about submission. - 20/11/2011 12:24:36 PM 1056 Views
Actually, my comment are about taking responsibility for yourself. *NM* - 20/11/2011 05:48:33 PM 622 Views
Some of them are doing just that. - 21/11/2011 11:14:58 PM 957 Views
As usual you miss the point completely. *NM* - 20/11/2011 08:27:02 PM 610 Views
How much violence has there actually been? - 20/11/2011 12:35:54 PM 1053 Views
Re: How much violence has there actually been? - 20/11/2011 12:44:00 PM 1136 Views
Because it's easy. - 20/11/2011 12:49:02 PM 1038 Views
I think it's great that student loans can't be discharged in bankruptcy. - 20/11/2011 06:27:27 PM 946 Views
Completely agree. *NM* - 20/11/2011 07:44:10 PM 672 Views
Asian parents have the right idea - 20/11/2011 08:49:39 PM 1076 Views
because that's not a huge generalization of an entire race... - 20/11/2011 09:05:26 PM 1020 Views
every pakistani, indian, viet, chinese, cambodian person I know (and thats a lot) .... - 20/11/2011 09:27:34 PM 1050 Views
I had a lot of asian peers in class growing up with parents who were not like that - 20/11/2011 10:35:45 PM 1046 Views
You has? Sorry...it was too good to pass up. *NM* - 20/11/2011 10:40:48 PM 561 Views
lol! oops! *edit* fail. *NM* - 20/11/2011 10:42:33 PM 574 Views
I understand that, and agree to a certain extent. - 20/11/2011 11:53:30 PM 1018 Views
Well... - 21/11/2011 05:39:09 AM 983 Views
Hm. Those are all very sensible points. Food for thought. *NM* - 21/11/2011 06:06:24 AM 513 Views
To take it a step further - 21/11/2011 02:36:49 AM 978 Views
I agree 100%. - 21/11/2011 05:41:40 AM 923 Views
they are. - 21/11/2011 06:55:27 PM 962 Views
HUZZAH! Very well said. - 20/11/2011 01:20:48 PM 1031 Views
"There are plenty of jobs and pay"... Do you read the news? *NM* - 20/11/2011 12:42:30 PM 578 Views
Yep, there are lots of jobs... - 20/11/2011 05:49:58 PM 1066 Views
there ARE plenty of jobs - 20/11/2011 06:14:30 PM 1083 Views
Excercise in creative thinking... - 20/11/2011 06:45:49 PM 1062 Views
Take an economics course. Learn about structural unemployment. - 20/11/2011 11:50:40 PM 989 Views
*NM* - 21/11/2011 05:13:39 AM 563 Views
I'm sorry dude, but there ARE jobs. - 20/11/2011 07:21:21 PM 1060 Views
but what kind of jobs? - 20/11/2011 08:08:58 PM 875 Views
"My plastic surgeon" WTF Aisha - 20/11/2011 08:36:13 PM 1114 Views
Im a nurse - 20/11/2011 09:24:14 PM 1000 Views
I actually have a lot of respect for plastic surgeons outside pure cosmetics - 21/11/2011 01:02:59 AM 1049 Views
job that pay money - 20/11/2011 08:57:55 PM 1029 Views
lets face it. all the jobs you just mentioned are jobs illegals take - 20/11/2011 09:35:07 PM 1031 Views
Re: lets face it. all the jobs you just mentioned are jobs illegals take - 20/11/2011 10:29:16 PM 956 Views
Re: lets face it. all the jobs you just mentioned are jobs illegals take - 21/11/2011 12:19:52 AM 1060 Views
That's a shitty situation - 21/11/2011 12:24:20 AM 919 Views
While it is true that the plural of anecdote is not data... - 21/11/2011 12:34:35 AM 868 Views
no I realize that - 21/11/2011 12:57:06 AM 829 Views
First of all, I worked at a dairy and have a friend who busses tables. - 20/11/2011 10:32:39 PM 997 Views
Thats a big problem, Aisha - 22/11/2011 06:42:18 AM 925 Views
Not in Michigan. *NM* - 21/11/2011 05:11:40 AM 542 Views
...I feel like you've been getting all of your information from TV News. This isn't about bills. - 20/11/2011 04:35:13 PM 1026 Views
Better question is have you been to any of them? - 20/11/2011 06:42:02 PM 1101 Views
I may need to be more concise about something - 20/11/2011 06:53:58 PM 1028 Views
Re: Better question is have you been to any of them? - 20/11/2011 07:00:30 PM 897 Views
Wait...you think there is a problem with courts treating corporations as persons? - 20/11/2011 08:33:43 PM 956 Views
You know what he meant. - 20/11/2011 09:32:59 PM 1022 Views
Pretty sure the inception of corporations was not 1886. - 22/11/2011 05:45:31 AM 992 Views
You do realize... - 22/11/2011 06:01:47 AM 937 Views
Almost anything CAN happen. - 22/11/2011 07:43:31 AM 1002 Views
You're right. I will hand you your ass on this one. If you give me gloves before touching it. - 23/11/2011 02:26:35 PM 1013 Views
That looks a little shaky. - 23/11/2011 05:42:39 PM 1015 Views
Funny how once we as a society used protesting for non personal gain ... - 20/11/2011 08:49:37 PM 1062 Views
I love this post. *NM* - 20/11/2011 09:06:49 PM 555 Views
Good post - 20/11/2011 09:13:12 PM 1005 Views
Then why don't the unemployed ... - 20/11/2011 10:36:36 PM 922 Views
The UN is clearly out of touch with reality. - 20/11/2011 10:44:44 PM 1003 Views
"There is no right to work"? - 22/11/2011 05:50:30 AM 1010 Views
Also, do you even have a job yet? *NM* - 22/11/2011 06:02:11 AM 533 Views
Ikke ennĂ¥. - 22/11/2011 07:28:27 AM 1047 Views
A simple no would suffice. *NM* - 22/11/2011 07:32:27 AM 584 Views
Well, that was little more than a simple no. - 22/11/2011 07:57:11 AM 927 Views
So do you think there is no cause whatsoever for protest? - 21/11/2011 03:31:04 AM 1023 Views
Re: So do you think there is no cause whatsoever for protest? - 22/11/2011 04:15:30 AM 976 Views
I am also not Dan. - 22/11/2011 06:08:06 AM 868 Views
Re: So do you think there is no cause whatsoever for protest? - 22/11/2011 06:47:25 AM 1060 Views
I don't think the protest is about being people feeling entitled - 22/11/2011 07:45:50 AM 1094 Views

Reply to Message