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I don't think the protest is about being people feeling entitled Helene Send a noteboard - 22/11/2011 07:45:50 AM
It's not about people not willing to work to take care of themselves. It's about there being a small group of people who own pretty much everything.

That's not "life's unfair, deal with it", that's "the system as it currently stands unfairly favors a group of people who do not need to be favored."

Btw, I'm sure that your bootstraps attitude sounds really romantic, but the fact is, cleaning toilets for the rest of your life is really shitty (pun unintended).
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An Open Letter to All People with Nothing Better To Do MightyYT - 20/11/2011 10:49:21 AM 2023 Views
Huzah! A man chooses and a slave obeys! *NM* Urza - 20/11/2011 10:56:42 AM 669 Views
Yeah, 'cos YTs comments are all about disobedience, and the OWSers are all about submission. Joel - 20/11/2011 12:24:36 PM 1149 Views
Actually, my comment are about taking responsibility for yourself. *NM* MightyYT - 20/11/2011 05:48:33 PM 662 Views
Some of them are doing just that. Joel - 21/11/2011 11:14:58 PM 1035 Views
As usual you miss the point completely. *NM* Urza - 20/11/2011 08:27:02 PM 663 Views
You want people vocally refusing slavery to return to slavery; I got the point. Joel - 21/11/2011 11:24:21 PM 1242 Views
If what I was saying amounted to that than what your arguing for would to... Urza - 22/11/2011 06:32:04 AM 1100 Views
Not at all. Joel - 22/11/2011 07:50:41 AM 1034 Views
This is also not about you; the response to which you replied here has been edited accordingly. Joel - 22/11/2011 08:10:21 AM 1163 Views
How much violence has there actually been? Joel - 20/11/2011 12:35:54 PM 1146 Views
Re: How much violence has there actually been? ironclad - 20/11/2011 12:44:00 PM 1227 Views
Because it's easy. Ghavrel - 20/11/2011 12:49:02 PM 1116 Views
I think it's great that student loans can't be discharged in bankruptcy. Tom - 20/11/2011 06:27:27 PM 1045 Views
Completely agree. *NM* Stephen - 20/11/2011 07:44:10 PM 728 Views
Asian parents have the right idea Aisha - 20/11/2011 08:49:39 PM 1168 Views
because that's not a huge generalization of an entire race... LadyLorraine - 20/11/2011 09:05:26 PM 1101 Views
every pakistani, indian, viet, chinese, cambodian person I know (and thats a lot) .... Aisha - 20/11/2011 09:27:34 PM 1142 Views
I had a lot of asian peers in class growing up with parents who were not like that LadyLorraine - 20/11/2011 10:35:45 PM 1132 Views
You has? Sorry...it was too good to pass up. *NM* Tom - 20/11/2011 10:40:48 PM 604 Views
lol! oops! *edit* fail. *NM* LadyLorraine - 20/11/2011 10:42:33 PM 620 Views
I understand that, and agree to a certain extent. Ghavrel - 20/11/2011 11:53:30 PM 1093 Views
Well... Tom - 21/11/2011 05:39:09 AM 1072 Views
Hm. Those are all very sensible points. Food for thought. *NM* Ghavrel - 21/11/2011 06:06:24 AM 562 Views
To take it a step further Praziquantel - 21/11/2011 02:36:49 AM 1082 Views
I agree 100%. Tom - 21/11/2011 05:41:40 AM 1008 Views
Fees are mostly increasing because of tuition increase caps paired with state funding cuts Sareitha Sedai - 21/11/2011 01:50:02 PM 1006 Views
they are. LadyLorraine - 21/11/2011 06:55:27 PM 1050 Views
Ultimately, there is only black and white, but they mix freely and liberally in the real world. Joel - 21/11/2011 11:38:34 PM 1029 Views
HUZZAH! Very well said. alanna aes sedai - 20/11/2011 01:20:48 PM 1118 Views
Our leaders should be held accountable for refusing to lead, and we for accepting that. Joel - 22/11/2011 12:09:51 AM 1055 Views
I think people were jeering OWS for not being "focused" because there are so many damn problems beetnemesis - 20/11/2011 04:54:24 PM 1150 Views
Largely true, in many respects; again, the Tea Party had much the same problem for the same reasons. Joel - 22/11/2011 12:26:29 AM 1226 Views
It is WEIRD when Ron Paul consistently comes off as the least insane GOP candidate beetnemesis - 22/11/2011 02:56:33 AM 1044 Views
Yeah, I recall that link, and still do not entirely agree with it. Joel - 22/11/2011 04:16:13 AM 1008 Views
Well yeah, because you sympathize with OWS beetnemesis - 22/11/2011 02:34:51 PM 1096 Views
I would not go that far. Joel - 23/11/2011 07:09:22 AM 1360 Views
"There are plenty of jobs and pay"... Do you read the news? *NM* Ghavrel - 20/11/2011 12:42:30 PM 624 Views
Yep, there are lots of jobs... MightyYT - 20/11/2011 05:49:58 PM 1147 Views
Re: Yep, there are lots of jobs... callandor1000 - 22/11/2011 04:01:35 AM 1046 Views
I know about a dozen Philosophy Majors off the top of my head, all of whom are gainfully employed. Dan - 22/11/2011 11:36:47 AM 1133 Views
Re:I know about a dozen Philosophy Majors off the top of my head,all of whom are gainfully employed. callandor1000 - 24/11/2011 04:30:00 AM 1268 Views
there ARE plenty of jobs Aisha - 20/11/2011 06:14:30 PM 1176 Views
Excercise in creative thinking... MightyYT - 20/11/2011 06:45:49 PM 1151 Views
Take an economics course. Learn about structural unemployment. Ghavrel - 20/11/2011 11:50:40 PM 1074 Views
*NM* everynametaken - 21/11/2011 05:13:39 AM 609 Views
So you think there's no real unemployment problem aside from people being lazy and entitled? *NM* Dan - 21/11/2011 03:32:16 AM 657 Views
I'm sorry dude, but there ARE jobs. LadyLorraine - 20/11/2011 07:21:21 PM 1137 Views
but what kind of jobs? Aisha - 20/11/2011 08:08:58 PM 968 Views
"My plastic surgeon" WTF Aisha Urza - 20/11/2011 08:36:13 PM 1251 Views
Im a nurse Aisha - 20/11/2011 09:24:14 PM 1090 Views
You had me worried about the young girl I used to know for a moment. *NM* Urza - 21/11/2011 01:01:04 AM 630 Views
I actually have a lot of respect for plastic surgeons outside pure cosmetics LadyLorraine - 21/11/2011 01:02:59 AM 1143 Views
job that pay money LadyLorraine - 20/11/2011 08:57:55 PM 1115 Views
lets face it. all the jobs you just mentioned are jobs illegals take Aisha - 20/11/2011 09:35:07 PM 1141 Views
Re: lets face it. all the jobs you just mentioned are jobs illegals take Roonas - 20/11/2011 10:29:16 PM 1046 Views
Re: lets face it. all the jobs you just mentioned are jobs illegals take Aisha - 21/11/2011 12:19:52 AM 1181 Views
That's a shitty situation LadyLorraine - 21/11/2011 12:24:20 AM 995 Views
While it is true that the plural of anecdote is not data... Ghavrel - 21/11/2011 12:34:35 AM 946 Views
no I realize that LadyLorraine - 21/11/2011 12:57:06 AM 918 Views
First of all, I worked at a dairy and have a friend who busses tables. LadyLorraine - 20/11/2011 10:32:39 PM 1075 Views
Actually it is the case in some parts of America. Just not the parts that get mentioned. callandor1000 - 22/11/2011 04:05:44 AM 1059 Views
Thats a big problem, Aisha Urza - 22/11/2011 06:42:18 AM 1009 Views
Doesn't matter when people aren't there, or people don't have the required skills. Ghavrel - 20/11/2011 11:51:53 PM 1046 Views
Not in Michigan. *NM* everynametaken - 21/11/2011 05:11:40 AM 590 Views
If you can drive a truck I can get you a job tommorw hauling sand for fracing *NM* random thoughts - 02/09/2012 09:32:39 PM 457 Views
...I feel like you've been getting all of your information from TV News. This isn't about bills. beetnemesis - 20/11/2011 04:35:13 PM 1130 Views
Better question is have you been to any of them? MightyYT - 20/11/2011 06:42:02 PM 1191 Views
I may need to be more concise about something MightyYT - 20/11/2011 06:53:58 PM 1130 Views
Re: Better question is have you been to any of them? beetnemesis - 20/11/2011 07:00:30 PM 984 Views
Wait...you think there is a problem with courts treating corporations as persons? Tom - 20/11/2011 08:33:43 PM 1047 Views
You know what he meant. Legolas - 20/11/2011 09:32:59 PM 1114 Views
You're talking about the Supreme Court case Citizens United v. Federal Elections Commission. Tom - 20/11/2011 10:38:43 PM 969 Views
Pretty sure the inception of corporations was not 1886. Joel - 22/11/2011 05:45:31 AM 1076 Views
You do realize... Urza - 22/11/2011 06:01:47 AM 1018 Views
Almost anything CAN happen. Joel - 22/11/2011 07:43:31 AM 1091 Views
Actually I think we should be prosecuting these people Urza - 22/11/2011 07:46:56 AM 1036 Views
Well, this is a red letter day; I agree with nearly, perhaps ENTIRELY, all of what you said here. Joel - 22/11/2011 07:59:42 AM 1064 Views
You're right. I will hand you your ass on this one. If you give me gloves before touching it. Tom - 23/11/2011 02:26:35 PM 1103 Views
That looks a little shaky. Joel - 23/11/2011 05:42:39 PM 1115 Views
Funny how once we as a society used protesting for non personal gain ... Roonas - 20/11/2011 08:49:37 PM 1154 Views
I love this post. *NM* LadyLorraine - 20/11/2011 09:06:49 PM 603 Views
Good post Stephen - 20/11/2011 09:13:12 PM 1085 Views
Then why don't the unemployed ... Roonas - 20/11/2011 10:36:36 PM 1021 Views
The UN is clearly out of touch with reality. Tom - 20/11/2011 10:44:44 PM 1102 Views
"There is no right to work"? Joel - 22/11/2011 05:50:30 AM 1094 Views
That would be a legal right relating to unions not a basic human right. *NM* Urza - 22/11/2011 05:57:34 AM 617 Views
Right; there is a right to work when it suits you, and not when it does not. Joel - 22/11/2011 07:16:40 AM 1003 Views
...do you know what "right-to-work" in those states entails? Ghavrel - 22/11/2011 07:55:02 AM 1133 Views
I would not pretend to be an authority on it, no, but broadly speaking, yes. Joel - 22/11/2011 08:12:50 AM 1149 Views
Also, do you even have a job yet? *NM* Urza - 22/11/2011 06:02:11 AM 579 Views
Ikke ennå. Joel - 22/11/2011 07:28:27 AM 1134 Views
A simple no would suffice. *NM* Urza - 22/11/2011 07:32:27 AM 630 Views
Well, that was little more than a simple no. Joel - 22/11/2011 07:57:11 AM 1014 Views
So do you think there is no cause whatsoever for protest? Dan - 21/11/2011 03:31:04 AM 1112 Views
Re: So do you think there is no cause whatsoever for protest? callandor1000 - 22/11/2011 04:15:30 AM 1092 Views
I am also not Dan. Joel - 22/11/2011 06:08:06 AM 958 Views
Re: So do you think there is no cause whatsoever for protest? Dan - 22/11/2011 06:47:25 AM 1150 Views
I don't think the protest is about being people feeling entitled Helene - 22/11/2011 07:45:50 AM 1177 Views
Re: I don't think the protest is about being people feeling entitled Roonas - 24/11/2011 03:07:09 AM 1025 Views
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