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Well, this is a red letter day; I agree with nearly, perhaps ENTIRELY, all of what you said here. Joel Send a noteboard - 22/11/2011 07:59:42 AM
Maybe if the idiots in the occupy movement got there act together and made the reasonable request for investigation and prosecution of frauds commited in the time leading up to crash we'ld get it.

That is the kind of accountability they should be advocating through constructive action, which I would and do support emphatically.
I think they are more interested in doing drugs in the park and feeling good about their socilist sensibilities

By many accounts, this is what a lot of them are doing instead, in between throwing things at cops and shouting pithy slogans that mean nothing.
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An Open Letter to All People with Nothing Better To Do MightyYT - 20/11/2011 10:49:21 AM 1914 Views
Huzah! A man chooses and a slave obeys! *NM* Urza - 20/11/2011 10:56:42 AM 596 Views
Yeah, 'cos YTs comments are all about disobedience, and the OWSers are all about submission. Joel - 20/11/2011 12:24:36 PM 1030 Views
Actually, my comment are about taking responsibility for yourself. *NM* MightyYT - 20/11/2011 05:48:33 PM 608 Views
Some of them are doing just that. Joel - 21/11/2011 11:14:58 PM 935 Views
As usual you miss the point completely. *NM* Urza - 20/11/2011 08:27:02 PM 603 Views
You want people vocally refusing slavery to return to slavery; I got the point. Joel - 21/11/2011 11:24:21 PM 1133 Views
If what I was saying amounted to that than what your arguing for would to... Urza - 22/11/2011 06:32:04 AM 998 Views
Not at all. Joel - 22/11/2011 07:50:41 AM 937 Views
This is also not about you; the response to which you replied here has been edited accordingly. Joel - 22/11/2011 08:10:21 AM 1054 Views
How much violence has there actually been? Joel - 20/11/2011 12:35:54 PM 1030 Views
Re: How much violence has there actually been? ironclad - 20/11/2011 12:44:00 PM 1113 Views
Because it's easy. Ghavrel - 20/11/2011 12:49:02 PM 1016 Views
I think it's great that student loans can't be discharged in bankruptcy. Tom - 20/11/2011 06:27:27 PM 926 Views
Completely agree. *NM* Stephen - 20/11/2011 07:44:10 PM 665 Views
Asian parents have the right idea Aisha - 20/11/2011 08:49:39 PM 1053 Views
because that's not a huge generalization of an entire race... LadyLorraine - 20/11/2011 09:05:26 PM 998 Views
every pakistani, indian, viet, chinese, cambodian person I know (and thats a lot) .... Aisha - 20/11/2011 09:27:34 PM 1028 Views
I had a lot of asian peers in class growing up with parents who were not like that LadyLorraine - 20/11/2011 10:35:45 PM 1025 Views
You has? Sorry...it was too good to pass up. *NM* Tom - 20/11/2011 10:40:48 PM 552 Views
lol! oops! *edit* fail. *NM* LadyLorraine - 20/11/2011 10:42:33 PM 564 Views
I understand that, and agree to a certain extent. Ghavrel - 20/11/2011 11:53:30 PM 994 Views
Well... Tom - 21/11/2011 05:39:09 AM 961 Views
Hm. Those are all very sensible points. Food for thought. *NM* Ghavrel - 21/11/2011 06:06:24 AM 502 Views
To take it a step further Praziquantel - 21/11/2011 02:36:49 AM 952 Views
I agree 100%. Tom - 21/11/2011 05:41:40 AM 897 Views
Fees are mostly increasing because of tuition increase caps paired with state funding cuts Sareitha Sedai - 21/11/2011 01:50:02 PM 891 Views
they are. LadyLorraine - 21/11/2011 06:55:27 PM 942 Views
Ultimately, there is only black and white, but they mix freely and liberally in the real world. Joel - 21/11/2011 11:38:34 PM 919 Views
HUZZAH! Very well said. alanna aes sedai - 20/11/2011 01:20:48 PM 1008 Views
Our leaders should be held accountable for refusing to lead, and we for accepting that. Joel - 22/11/2011 12:09:51 AM 937 Views
I think people were jeering OWS for not being "focused" because there are so many damn problems beetnemesis - 20/11/2011 04:54:24 PM 1046 Views
Largely true, in many respects; again, the Tea Party had much the same problem for the same reasons. Joel - 22/11/2011 12:26:29 AM 1115 Views
It is WEIRD when Ron Paul consistently comes off as the least insane GOP candidate beetnemesis - 22/11/2011 02:56:33 AM 924 Views
Yeah, I recall that link, and still do not entirely agree with it. Joel - 22/11/2011 04:16:13 AM 897 Views
Well yeah, because you sympathize with OWS beetnemesis - 22/11/2011 02:34:51 PM 996 Views
I would not go that far. Joel - 23/11/2011 07:09:22 AM 1243 Views
"There are plenty of jobs and pay"... Do you read the news? *NM* Ghavrel - 20/11/2011 12:42:30 PM 569 Views
Yep, there are lots of jobs... MightyYT - 20/11/2011 05:49:58 PM 1042 Views
Re: Yep, there are lots of jobs... callandor1000 - 22/11/2011 04:01:35 AM 942 Views
I know about a dozen Philosophy Majors off the top of my head, all of whom are gainfully employed. Dan - 22/11/2011 11:36:47 AM 990 Views
Re:I know about a dozen Philosophy Majors off the top of my head,all of whom are gainfully employed. callandor1000 - 24/11/2011 04:30:00 AM 1131 Views
there ARE plenty of jobs Aisha - 20/11/2011 06:14:30 PM 1067 Views
Excercise in creative thinking... MightyYT - 20/11/2011 06:45:49 PM 1036 Views
Take an economics course. Learn about structural unemployment. Ghavrel - 20/11/2011 11:50:40 PM 964 Views
*NM* everynametaken - 21/11/2011 05:13:39 AM 551 Views
So you think there's no real unemployment problem aside from people being lazy and entitled? *NM* Dan - 21/11/2011 03:32:16 AM 597 Views
I'm sorry dude, but there ARE jobs. LadyLorraine - 20/11/2011 07:21:21 PM 1042 Views
but what kind of jobs? Aisha - 20/11/2011 08:08:58 PM 850 Views
"My plastic surgeon" WTF Aisha Urza - 20/11/2011 08:36:13 PM 1098 Views
Im a nurse Aisha - 20/11/2011 09:24:14 PM 979 Views
You had me worried about the young girl I used to know for a moment. *NM* Urza - 21/11/2011 01:01:04 AM 577 Views
I actually have a lot of respect for plastic surgeons outside pure cosmetics LadyLorraine - 21/11/2011 01:02:59 AM 1024 Views
job that pay money LadyLorraine - 20/11/2011 08:57:55 PM 1008 Views
lets face it. all the jobs you just mentioned are jobs illegals take Aisha - 20/11/2011 09:35:07 PM 1010 Views
Re: lets face it. all the jobs you just mentioned are jobs illegals take Roonas - 20/11/2011 10:29:16 PM 937 Views
Re: lets face it. all the jobs you just mentioned are jobs illegals take Aisha - 21/11/2011 12:19:52 AM 1042 Views
That's a shitty situation LadyLorraine - 21/11/2011 12:24:20 AM 896 Views
While it is true that the plural of anecdote is not data... Ghavrel - 21/11/2011 12:34:35 AM 843 Views
no I realize that LadyLorraine - 21/11/2011 12:57:06 AM 802 Views
First of all, I worked at a dairy and have a friend who busses tables. LadyLorraine - 20/11/2011 10:32:39 PM 976 Views
Actually it is the case in some parts of America. Just not the parts that get mentioned. callandor1000 - 22/11/2011 04:05:44 AM 951 Views
Thats a big problem, Aisha Urza - 22/11/2011 06:42:18 AM 906 Views
Doesn't matter when people aren't there, or people don't have the required skills. Ghavrel - 20/11/2011 11:51:53 PM 932 Views
Not in Michigan. *NM* everynametaken - 21/11/2011 05:11:40 AM 532 Views
If you can drive a truck I can get you a job tommorw hauling sand for fracing *NM* random thoughts - 02/09/2012 09:32:39 PM 399 Views
...I feel like you've been getting all of your information from TV News. This isn't about bills. beetnemesis - 20/11/2011 04:35:13 PM 1004 Views
Better question is have you been to any of them? MightyYT - 20/11/2011 06:42:02 PM 1077 Views
I may need to be more concise about something MightyYT - 20/11/2011 06:53:58 PM 1006 Views
Re: Better question is have you been to any of them? beetnemesis - 20/11/2011 07:00:30 PM 874 Views
Wait...you think there is a problem with courts treating corporations as persons? Tom - 20/11/2011 08:33:43 PM 933 Views
You know what he meant. Legolas - 20/11/2011 09:32:59 PM 1002 Views
You're talking about the Supreme Court case Citizens United v. Federal Elections Commission. Tom - 20/11/2011 10:38:43 PM 867 Views
Pretty sure the inception of corporations was not 1886. Joel - 22/11/2011 05:45:31 AM 973 Views
You do realize... Urza - 22/11/2011 06:01:47 AM 914 Views
Almost anything CAN happen. Joel - 22/11/2011 07:43:31 AM 983 Views
Actually I think we should be prosecuting these people Urza - 22/11/2011 07:46:56 AM 922 Views
Well, this is a red letter day; I agree with nearly, perhaps ENTIRELY, all of what you said here. Joel - 22/11/2011 07:59:42 AM 941 Views
You're right. I will hand you your ass on this one. If you give me gloves before touching it. Tom - 23/11/2011 02:26:35 PM 990 Views
That looks a little shaky. Joel - 23/11/2011 05:42:39 PM 997 Views
Funny how once we as a society used protesting for non personal gain ... Roonas - 20/11/2011 08:49:37 PM 1042 Views
I love this post. *NM* LadyLorraine - 20/11/2011 09:06:49 PM 547 Views
Good post Stephen - 20/11/2011 09:13:12 PM 987 Views
Then why don't the unemployed ... Roonas - 20/11/2011 10:36:36 PM 901 Views
The UN is clearly out of touch with reality. Tom - 20/11/2011 10:44:44 PM 982 Views
"There is no right to work"? Joel - 22/11/2011 05:50:30 AM 987 Views
That would be a legal right relating to unions not a basic human right. *NM* Urza - 22/11/2011 05:57:34 AM 543 Views
Right; there is a right to work when it suits you, and not when it does not. Joel - 22/11/2011 07:16:40 AM 892 Views
...do you know what "right-to-work" in those states entails? Ghavrel - 22/11/2011 07:55:02 AM 1023 Views
I would not pretend to be an authority on it, no, but broadly speaking, yes. Joel - 22/11/2011 08:12:50 AM 1021 Views
Also, do you even have a job yet? *NM* Urza - 22/11/2011 06:02:11 AM 526 Views
Ikke ennå. Joel - 22/11/2011 07:28:27 AM 1031 Views
A simple no would suffice. *NM* Urza - 22/11/2011 07:32:27 AM 577 Views
Well, that was little more than a simple no. Joel - 22/11/2011 07:57:11 AM 903 Views
So do you think there is no cause whatsoever for protest? Dan - 21/11/2011 03:31:04 AM 997 Views
Re: So do you think there is no cause whatsoever for protest? callandor1000 - 22/11/2011 04:15:30 AM 953 Views
I am also not Dan. Joel - 22/11/2011 06:08:06 AM 852 Views
Re: So do you think there is no cause whatsoever for protest? Dan - 22/11/2011 06:47:25 AM 1044 Views
I don't think the protest is about being people feeling entitled Helene - 22/11/2011 07:45:50 AM 1070 Views
Re: I don't think the protest is about being people feeling entitled Roonas - 24/11/2011 03:07:09 AM 915 Views
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