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You're a smart guy, Ghavrel. You can't seriously think you have to do *anything* the police say. Tim Send a noteboard - 22/11/2011 03:05:06 PM
Obviously laws exist that say "If you are doing X, and fail to desist on being so requested by a police officer in uniform, you commit an offence". For example, where I live drinking in the street is legal, but you have to stop if the police ask you to. That of course is fine, and it may well be that all OWS arrests are for offences of this sort. But if a police officer happens to hate (say) baseball caps, they can't go up to you in the street and tell you to take off your baseball cap, then arrest you for not doing so, and then charge you with resisting arrest when you try to escape from your unlawful arrest. (If there is some specific law against baseball caps in NYC, replace them in my example with something equally innocuous and random.)
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An Open Letter to Police Officers Across America imlad - 20/11/2011 03:27:46 AM 1516 Views
Stupid, Stupid, Stupid. Dan - 20/11/2011 03:59:42 AM 969 Views
I am forced to agree. Joel - 20/11/2011 04:37:07 AM 798 Views
You're right, but stuff like what just happened at UC Davis makes my blood boil beetnemesis - 20/11/2011 05:52:11 AM 791 Views
As such things go, that does not seem too bad to me. Joel - 20/11/2011 06:14:54 AM 963 Views
You do know that they initiated violence at Kent State, right? Cannoli - 20/11/2011 02:45:57 PM 779 Views
You really do make this too easy. Joel - 21/11/2011 10:28:31 PM 1015 Views
hear hear *NM* LadyLorraine - 20/11/2011 04:47:12 AM 355 Views
Agreed. everynametaken - 20/11/2011 06:28:18 AM 911 Views
I agree with everything you said in this post. *NM* Ghavrel - 20/11/2011 07:53:07 AM 336 Views
a little late for that random thoughts - 21/11/2011 01:54:34 PM 739 Views
What the fuck are you on? I need to get some of that. *NM* Tom - 20/11/2011 04:56:00 AM 372 Views
I'm going to start a counter protest with "Bring back the Pinkertons" signs... Urza - 20/11/2011 05:19:19 AM 758 Views
*NM* Colonel Logain - 20/11/2011 05:49:35 AM 447 Views
I seen some guys holding signs saying "occupy a desk" *NM* random thoughts - 21/11/2011 01:55:38 PM 383 Views
One of the most poorly written pieces of shit I've read in a long time. *NM* everynametaken - 20/11/2011 06:30:29 AM 425 Views
"unarmed and peaceful protestors" Wibble - 20/11/2011 01:15:47 PM 805 Views
armed and violent? really? *NM* Aeryn - 21/11/2011 05:31:44 PM 354 Views
Declaring people "enemy combatants" means they get to treat you as such too. Tim - 20/11/2011 01:55:51 PM 773 Views
Don't cloud the propaganda with logic, Tim! Tom - 20/11/2011 04:16:05 PM 814 Views
That's the problem with a two-party system: it's practically impossible to form a new party. *NM* Tim - 20/11/2011 05:42:39 PM 332 Views
I think that's completely wrong. Tom - 20/11/2011 06:10:15 PM 845 Views
The odds are very long. Legolas - 20/11/2011 07:15:54 PM 928 Views
And implicit in my statement above is the following addendum Tom - 20/11/2011 06:14:40 PM 934 Views
I agree with that. However, many seem to think that means it's OK to beat them up. Tim - 20/11/2011 06:21:05 PM 808 Views
Only if they resist arrest, and then the force must be proportionate. *NM* Tom - 20/11/2011 09:52:39 PM 350 Views
If they resist a lawful arrest, sure. *NM* Tim - 21/11/2011 11:11:11 AM 347 Views
they are breaking the law so it is lawful to arrest them *NM* random thoughts - 21/11/2011 10:46:18 PM 346 Views
In what way? Tim - 22/11/2011 09:12:01 AM 784 Views
Resisting arrest. Duh. *NM* Ghavrel - 22/11/2011 10:11:04 AM 352 Views
They have to be doing something else before you can lawfully arrest them. Tim - 22/11/2011 10:30:05 AM 700 Views
Then they should be doing what the police say. Because that's the law. *NM* Ghavrel - 22/11/2011 02:28:00 PM 364 Views
You're a smart guy, Ghavrel. You can't seriously think you have to do *anything* the police say. Tim - 22/11/2011 03:05:06 PM 863 Views
Woosh. *NM* Ghavrel - 22/11/2011 10:30:42 PM 333 Views
You are not allowed to just block sidewalks and camp wherever you want random thoughts - 22/11/2011 01:54:42 PM 763 Views
In that case I quite agree. Tim - 22/11/2011 02:08:02 PM 729 Views
Most, if not all, of the arrests have been lawful. Tom - 22/11/2011 01:24:55 AM 731 Views
Can you tell me any more about this permit system? *NM* Tim - 22/11/2011 10:04:35 AM 332 Views
Thereby hangs the tale, indeed; I would also be interested in Toms elaboration on that. Joel - 23/11/2011 08:54:53 AM 795 Views
Its still okay to beat communists up though right? *NM* Urza - 21/11/2011 11:27:14 AM 335 Views
(OWS isn't anti-capitalism) beetnemesis - 20/11/2011 06:39:37 PM 721 Views
It's almost impossible for you to say what OWS is when it refuses to define itself. Tom - 20/11/2011 08:44:12 PM 778 Views
Re: It's almost impossible for you to say what OWS is when it refuses to define itself. callandor1000 - 22/11/2011 04:20:59 AM 849 Views
Why are liberals such whiners? random thoughts - 21/11/2011 01:51:03 PM 954 Views
There you go again.... Joel - 21/11/2011 11:05:04 PM 879 Views
it is a little hypocritical of the guy who called the Tea Party racsit to talk about broad brushes *NM* random thoughts - 22/11/2011 04:02:56 AM 504 Views
One of these days you should try responding to me with more than "that thing you just said? YOU!" Joel - 22/11/2011 06:11:20 AM 707 Views
one of these days you will respond without going into off topic rants random thoughts - 22/11/2011 02:02:46 PM 975 Views
A tangent is not a non sequitur, though in this case I do not feel guilty of either. Joel - 23/11/2011 08:12:09 AM 884 Views
I think you might be techincally correct Isaac - 22/11/2011 03:04:00 PM 926 Views
More than technically, in my obviously subjective opinion. Joel - 23/11/2011 07:41:08 AM 736 Views
oh and stop with the the stupid BS about the Fed veing threatened it is getting old random thoughts - 22/11/2011 04:05:10 AM 752 Views
Saying a person would not like what one did to him if he came to ones state is a threat. Joel - 22/11/2011 06:13:35 AM 819 Views
No it is just another pathetic attempt of the left to believe the right are bad guys random thoughts - 22/11/2011 01:50:32 PM 656 Views
Saying one will take an unpleasant action against another is a threat, any way you slice it. Joel - 23/11/2011 08:17:44 AM 754 Views
You've posted this, but you don't seem inclined to defend it, one might ask what the point was? Isaac - 21/11/2011 05:16:13 PM 735 Views
He'd post, but this is what happened. callandor1000 - 22/11/2011 03:55:43 AM 680 Views
I'm actually calling for them to start using lethal force. *NM* callandor1000 - 22/11/2011 03:46:24 AM 385 Views
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