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Actually, IIRC, we were told the Afghanistan war was important because of the Talibans threat to us. Joel Send a noteboard - 14/01/2012 11:18:28 PM
But I do. We have absolutely no business going over there to be some kind of "guiding light" saviormobile if we're going to do things to these people that we would drop bombs on someone's ass for doing to us. I suppose one could claim that we're there primarily to kill future threats to our country, but that certainly isn't the only reason we gave when we said this was an important war. And any one person there who might have helped us because he/she disagreed with a brother or uncle for aiding the Taliban might feel differently after they find out that that brother was killed and then pissed on by an American. They are people.

I understand the anger from the soldiers, but good lord. Fucking idiots.

That granted it the legitimacy Bush scrambled around unsuccessfully seeking for the Iraq war. There are a lot of hell holes around the world where religious and/or military juntas brutally oppress their helpless citizens and we do not get involved because 1) it is not our problem, 2) we do not have the resources and 3) unfortunately, in many cases we already subsidize the OPPRESSORS.

Afghanistan was different because the Taliban knowingly gave terrorists a safe haven where they plotted and trained to blow up the WTC. Thus we invaded as much to prevent it happening again as to retaliate. Liberation, spreading democracy, winning the hearts and minds; all great if they happen, but never our motive.

I agree the behavior was disgraceful, and undermines any kind of "enlightened" image we seek to project, along with any conciliatory impulse from the Taliban and probably most Afghanis, but in terms of our stated mission: We were there to put down or at least muzzle a rabid dog, which we largely have.
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Am I the only one who doesn't care if the Marines piss on the corpses of Taliban? - 13/01/2012 03:28:08 PM 1936 Views
Eh, it makes our guys look like uncivilized barbarian hicks. - 13/01/2012 03:37:24 PM 1130 Views
They're not? *NM* - 17/01/2012 09:52:28 AM 567 Views
Probably not the only one. - 13/01/2012 03:51:18 PM 1263 Views
I agree. *NM* - 13/01/2012 08:11:57 PM 555 Views
Well said. *NM* - 13/01/2012 10:52:26 PM 519 Views
Excellent post. - 14/01/2012 04:23:32 PM 964 Views
well said indeed. *NM* - 14/01/2012 06:30:21 PM 572 Views
Actually, IIRC, we were told the Afghanistan war was important because of the Talibans threat to us. - 14/01/2012 11:18:28 PM 967 Views
Yes, that was part of it. Of course. AND we were going to help bring democracy. - 15/01/2012 12:42:57 AM 971 Views
If we have time, sure. - 15/01/2012 10:18:31 PM 1121 Views
ooookay. *NM* - 16/01/2012 12:12:06 AM 518 Views
? - 16/01/2012 01:17:37 AM 1012 Views
Re: ? - 16/01/2012 12:22:39 PM 1006 Views
I quite agree with Joel on this point (frightening as that admission may be). - 16/01/2012 02:01:05 PM 993 Views
Doesn't matter. - 16/01/2012 02:33:53 PM 1035 Views
Your definition of "terrible thing" seems quite elastic. - 16/01/2012 07:21:12 PM 908 Views
I knew I had a good reason to hate you! - 16/01/2012 09:14:47 PM 1050 Views
It took this post for you to realize that? - 16/01/2012 09:17:00 PM 948 Views
I am pissed at them - 13/01/2012 06:00:56 PM 1268 Views
Yup. *NM* - 13/01/2012 06:07:10 PM 585 Views
Nope, you aren't. - 13/01/2012 07:08:06 PM 920 Views
I have a strong feeling that this was not the worst that's been done to those bodies - 13/01/2012 10:43:34 PM 1061 Views
any army simply reflects the society it is created from - 13/01/2012 11:06:57 PM 1117 Views
Agreed - 14/01/2012 12:37:45 AM 977 Views
You're far from the only one, but I don't agree with it. - 14/01/2012 12:17:31 AM 1072 Views
Awful. Worst post ever. *NM* - 14/01/2012 05:12:41 PM 753 Views
Agreed. *NM* - 14/01/2012 06:28:25 PM 509 Views
moral? - 14/01/2012 09:53:01 PM 1064 Views
I agree it was stupid to record it, and a breach of policy. - 14/01/2012 11:05:49 PM 954 Views
im just baffled - 14/01/2012 11:36:32 PM 1022 Views
Well, in the future you can expect it. - 15/01/2012 02:54:59 AM 934 Views
This shows that you are a bit of a sociopath *NM* - 15/01/2012 08:08:39 AM 533 Views
But we knew that already. *NM* - 15/01/2012 11:18:02 AM 522 Views
You're still upset I called American girls prudes. - 15/01/2012 04:43:31 PM 885 Views
I had forgotten you called American girls prudes - 16/01/2012 10:22:50 AM 996 Views
as someone said on the radio recently... - 16/01/2012 08:41:25 PM 973 Views
They aren't conditioned to murder, much less "in cold blood" - 16/01/2012 09:15:54 PM 1074 Views
surprisingly there really is no conditioning to kill - 16/01/2012 09:33:51 PM 969 Views
You used the phrase enemy combatant... - 17/01/2012 10:34:41 PM 957 Views
they are a problematic enemy - 17/01/2012 11:41:11 PM 1375 Views
stop listening to idiots on the radio *NM* - 16/01/2012 09:16:42 PM 486 Views

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