Personally, I expected a little more nuance from you.
Gaps Send a noteboard - 15/01/2012 03:52:24 PM
Considering what I've seen at this site, the simple expression of an opinion that I personally feel no moral outrage that corpses of enemies of the US are pissed on by soldiers is hardly the worst post ever.
If it isn't rampant hyperbole, you're complete idiots.
It's not the most offensive thing I've ever read, here or there, but also the source: I would have expected a little more from you. It seems ill-considered.
You feel that your moral paradigm, militant western democracy, is greater than the Taliban's moral paradigm, militant Islamic theology. Well, that's fine: I actually agree with that. But there's a reason that human beings have come up with certain codes of conduct, for instance, the Geneva Convention, to codify the operations of war. Within that codification, to which our military subscribes, we recognize the inherent immorality of the desecration of dead human bodies. We say it's an immoral thing to do, whether it's done by our enemies or done by our own soliders, and we recognize that certain acts go above the finger pointing of "this side is worst than that side", and are inherently, universally "wrong". You're shrugging that off and saying that this immoral act is okay, because those other guys are so immoral, which unravels the whole ball of string. If the Taliban were pissing on the flag-draped bodies of dead marines, you'd very likely be upset. I find either circumstance incredibly disturbing and base, and "wrong".
(If you come up with something interesting in response, I might reply. Ad hom and I'm all set, as I'm reading Sex at Dawn and it's super engaging.)
I cannot even copy his manner because the manner of his prose was the manner of his thinking and that was a dazzling succession of gaps; and you cannot ape a gap because you are bound to fill it in somehow or other -- and blot it out in the process. -- Nabokov
Am I the only one who doesn't care if the Marines piss on the corpses of Taliban?
- 13/01/2012 03:28:08 PM
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Probably not the only one.
- 13/01/2012 03:51:18 PM
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Actually, IIRC, we were told the Afghanistan war was important because of the Talibans threat to us.
- 14/01/2012 11:18:28 PM
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Yes, that was part of it. Of course. AND we were going to help bring democracy.
- 15/01/2012 12:42:57 AM
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If we have time, sure.
- 15/01/2012 10:18:31 PM
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- 15/01/2012 10:18:31 PM
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ooookay. *NM*
- 16/01/2012 12:12:06 AM
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?
- 16/01/2012 01:17:37 AM
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Re: ?
- 16/01/2012 12:22:39 PM
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I quite agree with Joel on this point (frightening as that admission may be).
- 16/01/2012 02:01:05 PM
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Doesn't matter.
- 16/01/2012 02:33:53 PM
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Your definition of "terrible thing" seems quite elastic.
- 16/01/2012 07:21:12 PM
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It undermines one of our stated goals, sure, but that particular goal was bunk from the outset.
- 17/01/2012 06:50:11 AM
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I am pissed at them
- 13/01/2012 06:00:56 PM
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Congratulations: You are now where a LOT of Americans have been on a LOT of US policy over the years
- 14/01/2012 07:43:24 AM
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Congratulations you have again missed the point
- 14/01/2012 05:06:24 PM
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Not at all, you have just evidently decided it is relevant now that the President is a Democrat.
- 14/01/2012 11:04:17 PM
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Joel, you're full of shit in this particular case
- 16/01/2012 12:05:54 AM
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Let's edit slightly: Joel, you're full of shit in this particular case
- 16/01/2012 12:57:22 AM
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He is applying a double standard, a practice I dislike intensely.
- 16/01/2012 01:15:05 AM
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no Joel you just can't see passed your politics
- 16/01/2012 02:15:51 AM
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I recall your disappointment in the soldiers then, but also your rejection of the view you took here
- 16/01/2012 02:27:36 AM
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I don't think that urinating on a dead body reflects well on anyone.
- 13/01/2012 07:47:20 PM
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Its indicitive of a breakdown in discipline and the erosion of the values of the corps.
- 13/01/2012 09:57:15 PM
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I thought this WAS the issue at hand. I haven't paid much attention to this story. *NM*
- 14/01/2012 12:00:53 AM
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I have a strong feeling that this was not the worst that's been done to those bodies
- 13/01/2012 10:43:34 PM
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Apparently the Taliban aren't too put out by it. They're still willing to negotiate and talk.
- 14/01/2012 01:32:59 AM
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Professional soldiers need to consider the impact of their actions on the cause
- 14/01/2012 08:25:30 AM
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Awful. Worst post ever. *NM*
- 14/01/2012 05:12:41 PM
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That's absurdly stupid of both of you. Expression of legitimate opinion hardly qualifies as "worst"
- 14/01/2012 08:46:30 PM
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it is our OPINION that this is the worst post ever.
- 14/01/2012 11:32:49 PM
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Wow. Remind me to point this out the next time Dragonsoul attacks you.
- 15/01/2012 02:52:47 AM
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im a little surprised that you are this offended by us calling your post the worst ever. *NM*
- 15/01/2012 03:52:51 AM
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Given the shit I've seen and the miserable way you've expressed yourself, I'm surprised.
- 15/01/2012 04:42:41 PM
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I agree worst post ever is one hell of a high bar
- 15/01/2012 03:52:42 AM
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Seriously, I once posted nude pics of a chat admins wife and THIS is the worst post ever? *NM*
- 15/01/2012 05:28:32 AM
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Personally, I expected a little more nuance from you.
- 15/01/2012 03:52:24 PM
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Well, and I would have expected a lot more nuance from you. Your response was worthless.
- 15/01/2012 04:40:57 PM
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moral?
- 14/01/2012 09:53:01 PM
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I agree it was stupid to record it, and a breach of policy.
- 14/01/2012 11:05:49 PM
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im just baffled
- 14/01/2012 11:36:32 PM
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Well, in the future you can expect it.
- 15/01/2012 02:54:59 AM
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nobody said you had to cry about it....just acknowledge its a fucked up thing to do
- 15/01/2012 03:38:29 AM
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This shows that you are a bit of a sociopath *NM*
- 15/01/2012 08:08:39 AM
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You're still upset I called American girls prudes.
- 15/01/2012 04:43:31 PM
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I had forgotten you called American girls prudes
- 16/01/2012 10:22:50 AM
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You're right, I'm not really bothered.
- 16/01/2012 09:18:50 PM
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There are all kinds of rationalizations why peeing on dead bodies isn't that bad in the grand
- 17/01/2012 10:32:45 PM
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What is it about this post that is bringing the mediocre intellectuals out of the woodwork? *NM*
- 17/01/2012 03:18:29 AM
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as someone said on the radio recently...
- 16/01/2012 08:41:25 PM
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They aren't conditioned to murder, much less "in cold blood"
- 16/01/2012 09:15:54 PM
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