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Joel, get your head out of your ass, if that is possible Tom Send a noteboard - 25/02/2012 07:02:34 PM
Company A makes $1 million in profit. Let's have a 35% tax rate plus, say, an 8% state tax rate, that means that in Year 1 Company A is paying $420,000 in taxes (42%).

If in Year 2 it makes $1 million in profit but subtracts the $80,000 in state taxes from the previous year, that means its net profit is $920,000, on which it will still pay 42% or $386,400, but on the slightly smaller amount. However, this is still $36,400 more than if it had not paid the state taxes. On average, the deduction has only halved the effective state tax rate.

Also, because that benefit is for the PREVIOUS year's state tax, rather than the CURRENT year's state tax, it can lead to fluctuations. For example, let's say that Year 2 profit was $0. The state tax deduction is only good to the extent the corporation can roll it forward. If it has several bad years in a row, chances are it won't be able to, so it will pay the full 8% extra for its boom year.

Also, your statement

US companies build FACTORIES in Third World despotisms; they do NOT incorporate there, because the kind of governments willing to grant low corporate income tax rates tend to be the kind who simply seize corporate income if it becomes large enough to warrant the effort.


shows how little you know about how business is actually conducted. US companies are forced to incorporate domestic entities in most jurisdictions or have a "branch office", which is usually taxed the same way and has the same legal effect. Where an entity is incorporated is irrelevant, because the ability to nationalize a company also depends on the nationalizing government's ability to extend its fiat beyond its borders.
Political correctness is the pettiest form of casuistry.

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Why Joel is CRAZY - Nearly Half of All Americans Don't Pay Federal Income Taxes - 23/02/2012 04:43:15 AM 1843 Views
A not so hypothetical situation... - 23/02/2012 05:46:44 AM 1239 Views
Your paying more money now than then. Lower rate but more money *NM* - 23/02/2012 07:52:51 AM 737 Views
Accurate statement, but not a justification *NM* - 23/02/2012 03:44:55 PM 612 Views
Re: A not so hypothetical situation... - 23/02/2012 02:39:43 PM 1334 Views
I don't know much about that. - 23/02/2012 03:53:27 PM 1142 Views
Why the heck do you think the current tax system is skewed to the rich? - 23/02/2012 03:18:43 PM 1369 Views
That's a fair question - 23/02/2012 03:52:08 PM 1254 Views
Once again, poor people have no money with which to pay taxes. - 23/02/2012 06:23:07 AM 1388 Views
You're operating under the same fallacy he does - that people should pay income taxes. - 23/02/2012 12:05:52 PM 1462 Views
In much the same way - 23/02/2012 01:40:58 PM 1396 Views
Same argument re: fallacies - 24/02/2012 02:52:17 PM 1251 Views
Was meant as a joke reply - 02/03/2012 06:30:15 PM 1550 Views
Joel is crazy, but I highly doubt that this is "why" - 23/02/2012 01:36:37 PM 1441 Views
HA! HA! Very well played! *NM* - 23/02/2012 03:49:35 PM 550 Views
I see your point, but not how it changes much in the conversation where we discussed that - 25/02/2012 01:49:29 AM 1239 Views
Joel, get your head out of your ass, if that is possible - 25/02/2012 07:02:34 PM 1275 Views
You kiss your momma with that ad hominem? - 27/02/2012 09:11:33 AM 1446 Views
You mention this statistic all the time. - 23/02/2012 02:16:47 PM 1126 Views
Obviously, we are talking about the bottom 50%..... - 23/02/2012 03:22:43 PM 1118 Views
How do you account for retired folks? - 23/02/2012 04:18:59 PM 1345 Views
social security isn't taxable either *NM* - 24/02/2012 04:21:21 AM 637 Views
Easy... he doesn't. - 25/02/2012 02:56:05 AM 1083 Views
I wonder how much of that statistic is students - 23/02/2012 02:22:58 PM 1370 Views
Federal taxes - 23/02/2012 04:18:22 PM 1267 Views
Your figures are fairly unrealistic - 23/02/2012 04:54:44 PM 1424 Views
Not entirely. - 23/02/2012 06:30:18 PM 1199 Views
On exempting SS income: - 25/02/2012 02:30:43 AM 1189 Views
Is there any reason why one should exclude the other? - 23/02/2012 07:32:09 PM 1251 Views

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