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Did you just INVITE me to ramble? Joel Send a noteboard - 11/09/2012 11:30:01 PM
I came up with a few straightforward questions but if you would like to ramble, I'd also like to hear any ideas, thoughts, convictions, beliefs, etc. Concerning organic food.

1. Do you think organic food is healthier/safer/more nutritious than ordinary food?

No more nutritious, no, but it does not take a rocket scientist to figure out food is safer and healthier if NOT sprayed with poison or adulterated with foreign DNA that has unknown and unpredictable side effects. It is certainly not safe for the public to cede control of our food supply to companies who sell farmers seed genetically modified to be sterile, requiring them to annually buy whatever seed at whatever price those companies offer.

2. What do you think is the most important benefit derived from organic farming?

Health and safety is a big one, but its extent is hard to ascertain. Ironically, despite observations from others about organic foods expense, its greatest benefit may be the sustainability and savings from supporting local farmers and buying produce that need not be refrigerated/frozen and shipped hundreds or thousands of miles to markets. A tomato bought from a neighbors garden is almost inevitably cheaper than one grown on the other side of the continent and trucked to a grocer who cannot stay in business without charging more than he paid for it. If each person grows different things they can be traded for each other rather than purchased from chain grocery stores at the additional expense of pesticides, chemical fertilizer, R&D for GMOs, shipping and retail markup.

3. What do you think will be the role of organic food in 20 years? Will it continue to grow in the future?

Hard to say; it probably depends more than anything on the popularity of people growing their own food and/or buying it from neighbors.

4. At least the world's population will continue to grow. Is it sensible to push for organic farming with its low crop yields when people are starving?

As long as US subsidies to factory farms keep global food prices so low exploding Third World populations cannot make any money farming, yes.

5. Should the use of GMOS be allowed in organic farming?

Sure, to the extent that natural crossbreeding is organic. Species created in a lab, however, are only organic in the sense of being carbon based, not in the sense of being even slightly natural.

Okay, I think that's about it. The rest of this post is stuff that I've been rolling around in my head.

I'm not very enthusiastic about organic farming. I admit that from an environmental viewpoint it is better than traditional farming (less fertilizers, more biodiversity). That and animal welfare (a matter of legislation) are the most important and beneficial aspects of organic farming, IMO. I absolutely loath the "health food" argument. I am not terrified of small traces of pesticides. People clinging to their organic foods because they are supposedly somehow more wholesome than ordinary foods annoy the hell out of me.

I happen to have the luxury of living in the northenmost country in the world that still engages in large-scale agriculture. With the short growing season and the terrible soil, the conditions aren't all that rosy for organic farming. Still, consumers want it (although it's never taken off nearly as well here as in, say, Germany) and the industry of course happily produces what people want.

Bear in mind that EU restrictions on GMOs severely curtail the market for them outside the few Western European non-members. I do not know how it is here, but in the US very little organic farming is industrial, though organic farmers do sell much of their harvest to retailers seeking profits from the market for organic food.
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I'd be interested in knowing what you guys think about organic food - 11/09/2012 08:01:41 PM 1007 Views
Re: I'd be interested in knowing what you guys think about organic food - 11/09/2012 08:55:17 PM 541 Views
Okay - 11/09/2012 10:05:39 PM 508 Views
Re: Okay - 12/09/2012 01:26:20 AM 447 Views
Re: Okay - 12/09/2012 04:25:19 PM 537 Views
Re: I'd be interested in knowing what you guys think about food - 11/09/2012 08:59:54 PM 722 Views
I am intrigued by your ideas. - 12/09/2012 03:20:13 PM 450 Views
I'm a biology graduate so I'm a bit bias but... - 11/09/2012 09:41:00 PM 635 Views
Thank you for you perspective! *NM* - 11/09/2012 10:14:49 PM 250 Views
I think organic food is a luxury that few will want as food prices increase in the coming decades. - 11/09/2012 10:11:33 PM 529 Views
Re: I think organic food is a luxury that few will want as food prices increase in the coming -- - 11/09/2012 10:35:08 PM 548 Views
Re: I think organic food is a luxury that few will want as food prices increase in the coming -- - 12/09/2012 02:38:24 AM 533 Views
Good points - 12/09/2012 09:28:41 AM 585 Views
Re: Good points - 12/09/2012 02:09:49 PM 507 Views
Yes. - 12/09/2012 10:01:36 AM 486 Views
I like it. - 11/09/2012 11:29:08 PM 587 Views
What I think - 12/09/2012 03:43:29 PM 426 Views
Re: What I think - 12/09/2012 04:26:34 PM 522 Views
Did you just INVITE me to ramble? - 11/09/2012 11:30:01 PM 661 Views
Actually (minor pedants point) - 13/09/2012 08:23:48 PM 555 Views
I hold to the view that most food is organic - 12/09/2012 12:15:27 AM 592 Views
What I think (now in the right spot!) - 12/09/2012 04:02:31 PM 612 Views
I'm so glad you responded. - 12/09/2012 04:14:31 PM 571 Views
Well... - 12/09/2012 08:15:13 PM 613 Views
I think the organic movement is mostly a big scam: an excuse to charge more money for less food. - 12/09/2012 11:40:40 PM 477 Views
Actually, I believe the "no pesticides" part predates the "no GMOs" part. - 13/09/2012 05:26:53 AM 487 Views
You're right... - 13/09/2012 08:43:52 AM 580 Views
Thanks for confirming my general impression as right on the money. - 14/09/2012 03:35:56 PM 571 Views
Re: Thanks for confirming my general impression as right on the money. - 16/09/2012 07:45:25 PM 527 Views
That is a very interesting overview, thanks. - 17/09/2012 11:22:38 PM 522 Views
Re: That is a very interesting overview, thanks. - 20/09/2012 08:44:45 PM 544 Views
Re: That is a very interesting overview, thanks. - 24/09/2012 03:06:35 AM 551 Views
Curious as to where you read these things - 13/09/2012 08:41:43 PM 531 Views
I am aware of no corroborating scientific research, no - 14/09/2012 03:53:42 PM 551 Views
I have some serious problems with that I'm afraid. - 14/09/2012 05:53:39 PM 440 Views
Fair enough; I have some serious fears with GMOs. - 15/09/2012 03:58:13 AM 607 Views
This is a long one... - 15/09/2012 08:28:36 PM 530 Views
Tends to happen around me for SOME reason.... - 17/09/2012 05:31:44 PM 645 Views

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