You can't just assume someone has the motivation you want them to have.
		Narg Send a noteboard - 16/10/2012 11:08:09 PM
		
	
		
			
				I know many people that love their gay child/sibling (and their partners) that oppose changing the definition of marriage.  Their views are informed by deeply held religious convictions, not hatred.  You may think they are wrong, stupid, misinformed, etc.  But to say they are filled with hate or driven by hate is wrong.  In my experience the great majority are not.  
If you want to use a debatable definition of bigot to automatically include anybody that opposes changing the definition of marriage, well our definitions of words are colored by our world view and that is at least defensible.
Labeling everybody that opposes you as "hate-filled" is just a way to dehumanize them. It is the oldest trick in the book.
			
		
	
	If you want to use a debatable definition of bigot to automatically include anybody that opposes changing the definition of marriage, well our definitions of words are colored by our world view and that is at least defensible.
Labeling everybody that opposes you as "hate-filled" is just a way to dehumanize them. It is the oldest trick in the book.
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			A Bible belt conservative spent a year pretending to be gay
	    
	         - 14/10/2012 12:25:34 PM
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			OK, I thought that was cool.  Put his money where his mouth is, so to speak. *NM*
	    
	         - 14/10/2012 12:37:55 PM
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			Plenty of the comments are really disheartening
	    
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			There was one that I thought pretty good:
	    
	         - 15/10/2012 10:57:42 PM
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			I have to agree with that one.  Most people come out in order to be more honest with their family.
	    
	         - 16/10/2012 02:39:46 AM
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			"The vast majority of conservative Christians are not hateful bigots at all."
	    
	         - 15/10/2012 10:55:34 PM
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			He does say his mother came around in the end.
	    
	         - 15/10/2012 10:57:50 PM
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			Maybe most conservative christians...
	    
	         - 15/10/2012 11:44:13 PM
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			Sorry, that is just an attempted role-reversal; objecting to hatred is not the "real hatred."
	    
	         - 16/10/2012 01:26:39 AM
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			In addition, the bible doesn't forbid it.  The bible is not a monolithic work, but an anthology.
	    
	         - 16/10/2012 02:32:59 AM
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			What I said is correct.
	    
	         - 16/10/2012 05:49:13 PM
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			Dude, the "You're intolerant of intolerance!" argument is so played out
	    
	         - 16/10/2012 08:34:35 PM
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			I think he has a good point.  It just shouldn't be generalized so far as he is doing.
	    
	         - 16/10/2012 09:23:13 PM
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			Wrong.  I am talking about labels and what they are used for.
	    
	         - 16/10/2012 10:42:11 PM
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			And on the other hand, various "logical justifications" tend to boil down to one thing:
	    
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			I actually DO believe that anti-gay-marriage people eat babies ;-) *NM*
	    
	         - 16/10/2012 11:32:35 PM
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			We use "bigot" like Christians use "sinner."
	    
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			You can't just assume someone has the motivation you want them to have.
		
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			For me it is as simple as looking into my own heart, several years back.
	    
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