that what man did with evil in his heart, God created something good. Don't assume that God is incapable of turning to good that which man intended for evil.
You are trying to intend that God intended that rape to happen. We live in a fallen world where man makes his own decisions. Have you ever considered that the child born from a violation such as that could be a source of healing? That even in her most darkest of days, there is someone who loves her unconditionally?
~Jeordam
You are trying to intend that God intended that rape to happen. We live in a fallen world where man makes his own decisions. Have you ever considered that the child born from a violation such as that could be a source of healing? That even in her most darkest of days, there is someone who loves her unconditionally?
~Jeordam
or possibly the woman feels terribly violated by the rape, and forcing her to keep -- or at least give birth to -- the resulting baby pushes her mental state beyond its breaking point?
there are definitely no correct answers as to how a woman will react when in this situation, but regardless of how badly worded Mourdock's comment was, it is still offensive to many people that he said it at all.
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God Distances Self From Christian Right
- 26/10/2012 01:56:18 PM
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Do you really think God would condone abortion? *NM*
- 26/10/2012 03:28:25 PM
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Depends on when a fetus is a being, which the GOP contends is "at the moment of fertilization."
- 26/10/2012 03:57:44 PM
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Actually, I don't see any place in the Bible where God is....
- 26/10/2012 04:00:19 PM
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Where did I say one word about God accommodating our sin?
- 26/10/2012 05:55:52 PM
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You're technically right, Joel, but...
- 26/10/2012 07:32:10 PM
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Almost may count in hand grenades, but definitely not in canon. 
- 26/10/2012 10:28:57 PM
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- 26/10/2012 10:28:57 PM
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Your lack of scientific understanding is everything in this instance.
- 26/10/2012 10:44:05 PM
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Because whether God intends rape is aaaall about science, right?
- 26/10/2012 11:08:16 PM
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You're getting rather emphatic.
- 26/10/2012 11:27:07 PM
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Broad fundamental change to US law by controlling all three branches of government provokes that.
- 27/10/2012 12:44:59 AM
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Condemn women to die? What a strange way to look at this.
- 26/10/2012 07:17:16 PM
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women *did* die before abortion was legalized, there should be no dispute of this aspect
- 26/10/2012 07:27:28 PM
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So we legalize an illegal act because some are willing to harm themselves to do it? *NM*
- 26/10/2012 10:02:37 PM
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no, we legalize the act so that it can be performed safely without killing both mother *and* child *NM*
- 26/10/2012 11:08:52 PM
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Very good point, but that was not (at least soley) what I meant, no.
- 26/10/2012 11:12:32 PM
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If something should be illegal in its own right, it is nonsense to legalize it because criminals
- 26/10/2012 11:40:41 PM
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If banning it saves no lives but inevitably takes more, the ban is counterproductive.
- 27/10/2012 12:48:51 AM
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That is absolutely absurd. It saves the lives of all...
- 27/10/2012 12:59:16 AM
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you're still missing the point that abortions will still be performed if it were illegal
- 27/10/2012 01:02:57 AM
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I'm not missing the point, you are.
- 27/10/2012 01:21:39 AM
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This isn't necessarily true, though it is often due to other factors.
- 27/10/2012 02:48:00 PM
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People who want abortions badly enough to have one will, whether or not law makes it "convenient."
- 27/10/2012 02:58:52 AM
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Telling a woman whose life was in danger not to save it with abortion condemned her to die
- 26/10/2012 10:48:53 PM
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There is no proof that you would accept that a fetus is a child.
- 26/10/2012 11:31:50 PM
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Fantastic question.
- 26/10/2012 11:43:51 PM
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No, I would err on the side of caution; have often said as much in just those words.
- 27/10/2012 01:18:19 AM
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Sure there is; show me a fetus acting indepedently and consciously.
- 27/10/2012 01:15:00 AM
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Perfect example of media sensationalism
- 26/10/2012 04:13:41 PM
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I agree with your larger point and am not trying to be argumentative
- 26/10/2012 04:29:23 PM
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yeah, but what do women know about women's issues? this is man talk time!
- 26/10/2012 05:01:58 PM
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THAT is the whole problem with his comment.
- 26/10/2012 05:59:40 PM
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Or it could mean....
- 26/10/2012 11:50:53 PM
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Re: Or it could mean....
- 27/10/2012 12:14:31 AM
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Having addressed this in response to Legolas in moondogs thread on Mourdock, I will just link that.
- 27/10/2012 01:43:48 AM
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I agree
- 26/10/2012 07:27:21 PM
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It's always a slippery slope, talking about what God did and did not intend.
- 27/10/2012 12:06:22 AM
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There is a logically consistent way; you did not ask for it, so I will be brief.
- 27/10/2012 02:53:09 AM
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Pregnancy cannot be separated from its cause.
- 26/10/2012 05:51:28 PM
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God intends everything.
- 27/10/2012 04:40:58 PM
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"Intends" is a big word.
- 27/10/2012 09:23:13 PM
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It is sad that this is getting more press than the Bengazi scandal *NM*
- 26/10/2012 05:58:22 PM
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that's probably because it's more relevant to most people's lives *NM*
- 26/10/2012 06:06:10 PM
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This entire scandal really speaks to the Calvinist heresy in particular.
- 26/10/2012 07:10:38 PM
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I was trying REALLY hard to avoid putting it in precisely those terms. 
- 26/10/2012 10:12:17 PM
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- 26/10/2012 10:12:17 PM
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Well, but really, the fundamental crux of the issue is precisely that.
- 27/10/2012 01:03:26 AM
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True, but disputing founding articles of faith benefits from tact.
- 27/10/2012 02:02:48 AM
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Come on, Tom.
- 27/10/2012 03:29:39 AM
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I believe HE grasps the difference between predestination and determinism well.
- 27/10/2012 09:33:14 PM
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The comment that sparked this was moronic even to the vast majority of religious conservatives. *NM*
- 26/10/2012 09:42:51 PM
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Yet its author remains the only Senate nominee for whom Romney is running ads.
- 26/10/2012 10:53:37 PM
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Is the senator's comment more disgusting to you than the President's vote against the
- 26/10/2012 11:54:55 PM
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how does one vote against a bill which passed by unanimous consent?
- 27/10/2012 12:11:37 AM
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As a state senator in 2001 in illinois he was the sole opponent to the aforementioned bill. *NM*
- 27/10/2012 12:14:08 AM
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[citation needed]
- 27/10/2012 12:15:41 AM
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It was an illinois state bill. *NM*
- 27/10/2012 12:23:12 AM
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yes, i finally found *something* regarding a state bill which he did oppose
- 27/10/2012 12:34:40 AM
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The BAIPA became federal law 2 years before Obamas Senate win; he says he would have voted for it.
- 27/10/2012 02:33:26 AM
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Once he started taking fire for it he said he would have voted for it? Well that clears that up.
- 27/10/2012 07:09:21 AM
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He "took fire" for a federal law passed before he was in Congress?
- 27/10/2012 04:08:25 PM
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amazing
- 28/10/2012 05:04:21 AM
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Women are certainly encouraged to weigh in, but everyone is entitled to thoughts on the matter
- 28/10/2012 02:22:55 PM
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