Obama's team have done it twice now. They built on what they saw after the Kerry campaign where polarised opinions on the war boosted turnout. I've not said the Democrats will keep doing this after Obama leaves office or that they won't fall into the laziness trap again but the facts are there. The have made a concerted effort to get their supporters who don't usually vote to go out and vote and it's worked.
I've not said that is the basis for the Republicans being finished (I don't think they are and I said as much up front), I just said as much as the Democrats screw up, as long as they don't fall into the trap of thinking their voters will turn up without a concerted effort to get them there it will take the Republicans proactively changing to get back into office.
Tom said as much in his thread above mine and nobody here knows as much about Republican party workings as him. Simply remaining static and waiting for the inevitable slip-up by the Democrats is a crap strategy because if you don't put yourself in a position to exploit it then it's meaningless anyway.
If the Republicans move away from the 'tea party' aspect and the Democrats don't improve the economy much then they have a very real chance of winning the next election handily, however they'll need to rely on more than their base to do that and continuing to alienate virtually every minority group in the country isn't going to allow them to do that.
I've not said that is the basis for the Republicans being finished (I don't think they are and I said as much up front), I just said as much as the Democrats screw up, as long as they don't fall into the trap of thinking their voters will turn up without a concerted effort to get them there it will take the Republicans proactively changing to get back into office.
Tom said as much in his thread above mine and nobody here knows as much about Republican party workings as him. Simply remaining static and waiting for the inevitable slip-up by the Democrats is a crap strategy because if you don't put yourself in a position to exploit it then it's meaningless anyway.
If the Republicans move away from the 'tea party' aspect and the Democrats don't improve the economy much then they have a very real chance of winning the next election handily, however they'll need to rely on more than their base to do that and continuing to alienate virtually every minority group in the country isn't going to allow them to do that.
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What next for Romney and the Republican party?
07/11/2012 03:51:50 PM
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In my view, more moderation is needed.
07/11/2012 04:17:05 PM
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Pretty sure seniors are growing MORE numerous, not less. You're probably right about the rest. *NM*
07/11/2012 05:03:17 PM
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That's true, but I don't think that's the right way to look at it.
07/11/2012 05:18:52 PM
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Yeah, I hear what you're saying, and I agree with the overall point.
07/11/2012 07:52:33 PM
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Libertarian is the way to go IMO.
07/11/2012 05:19:29 PM
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totally agree, i was quite disappointed Johnson didn't get better results *NM*
07/11/2012 06:15:09 PM
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I'd say they're pretty much done
07/11/2012 07:54:44 PM
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I'm not sure about that.
07/11/2012 08:04:33 PM
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Again, the numbers you cited will continue to shrink every year.
07/11/2012 08:25:21 PM
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They're through. They've been utterly crushed, demolished, and annihilated after last night.
07/11/2012 10:34:47 PM
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Well Romney is retiring but no the GOP is hardly 'done'
08/11/2012 12:51:44 AM
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I do hope the Republican party have the same lax attitude, I love seeing them lose *NM*
08/11/2012 12:46:32 PM
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I imagine lots of idiots feel the same way on both sides about both parties *NM*
08/11/2012 11:05:29 PM
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If you're relying on the democrats crashing and burning
09/11/2012 02:45:41 PM
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the dems played the "wait for the repubs to crash and burn" strategy and it worked out ok this year
09/11/2012 05:01:53 PM
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Off topic, but is your Shift key broken?
09/11/2012 05:47:12 PM
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do you have similar problems when talking to people with weird hair color or clothes IRL?
09/11/2012 07:09:24 PM
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The Dems learned their lesson from the Gore campaign
09/11/2012 06:25:23 PM
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i beg to differ
09/11/2012 07:22:40 PM
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The facts speak for themselves
09/11/2012 07:46:20 PM
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Re: The facts speak for themselves
11/11/2012 01:13:05 AM
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i'm quite curious about one thing, since i know you're such a numbers guy
11/11/2012 02:01:31 PM
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Re: i'm quite curious about one thing, since i know you're such a numbers guy
11/11/2012 05:48:09 PM
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I've also got a question for you
11/11/2012 02:16:07 PM
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Re: I've also got a question for you
11/11/2012 04:51:55 PM
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Re: I've also got a question for you
11/11/2012 05:48:52 PM
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There's also the fake or exaggeration aspect that might be in play but I can't judge that
11/11/2012 06:44:16 PM
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I think you were taking that statement rather literally
11/11/2012 07:36:14 PM
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I took it as a literal statement, the language implied as much to me...
11/11/2012 08:45:16 PM
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Oh, I can absolutely count on them crahsing and burning, that's a given, happens to both regularly *NM*
09/11/2012 06:28:51 PM
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You can't count on exploiting that
09/11/2012 06:39:47 PM
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'Mistakes' is subjective, sometimes you have to play your hand
11/11/2012 01:09:31 AM
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how are 300+ EVs "the skin of his teeth"?
08/11/2012 05:46:51 PM
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Because he barely won them? *NM*
08/11/2012 11:06:14 PM
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only OH, NC and FL are within 2% margin, i'd hardly call that "barely won"
08/11/2012 11:25:54 PM
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What makes you think Hillary won't be running?
08/11/2012 06:07:38 PM
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hillary has stated time and again she is done when she steps down as sec'y of state
08/11/2012 11:27:56 PM
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While I agree with the overall point that the Republican party isn't done by any means
08/11/2012 11:53:12 PM
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Romney is done; the last defeated nominee to be renominated was Nixon.
08/11/2012 04:53:52 PM
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