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Re: I've also got a question for you Isaac Send a noteboard - 11/11/2012 04:51:55 PM
We all know what happened this time perfectly well, we relied on a lot of Obama's people not showing from 2008 and more of ours showing, as best as I can tell, in Ohio anyway, we actually ran a better ground game too, his worked in the end, ours didn't, in all probability it was just took less effort per voter for them then for us and they had a bigger pool.

Am I misunderstanding this? All the comments from before and after the election, from Ohio and nationally, were about how massively the Obama campaign was outperforming Romney in the efforts to get their voters out - knocking on far more doors and talking to far more people on the phone. Given the election result wasn't a landslide in voter numbers, that suggests to me that the Obama campaign had to work far harder for the votes it got.

Or is that not how you meant that


No, the newsies can report stuff but the campaigns actually track their voter contact, to the best of my knowledge - and I could be wrong about theirs but I know ours for Ohio - we had more of it, and certainly my specific area did and I can go into that in detail if you like but preferably by NB.

Concept here being that X and Y might go out and bang on some targeted doors, say X hits 20 and Y hits 15, in theory X gets more voters but in practice it may be that Y had an easier time of it. As an example, it's probably easier to convince 15 slightly apathetic Obama voters from 2008 to vote again and for him then it is to convince 20 Ron Paul supporters to vote for Romney. This could go either way with different targets but that looks to be what happened overall.
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