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In your opinion - in mine, and I suspect others here, it is not. snoopcester Send a noteboard - 22/11/2012 12:03:20 AM
.. You definately don't construct public policy over it. It would be like debating a law against going outside when it is raining due to the risk of lightning, hitting your left pinkie toe.


Sorry but that is a ludicrous argument. If legalising a fairly simple operation would save, say, ten lives a year, would you oppose it?

-Ireland does not allow abortion for any reason

-England does allow abortion for any or no reason

-Ireland has a LOWER maternal death rate than England

If the "life of the mother" argument was anything but rare to the point of irrelevance, Ireland would have a higher maternal death rate, not a lower one.


There are far too many other factors for this statistic to have any meaning. You also need to bear in mind that Ireland isn't a closed off country - in one year 7,000 women travelled, mostly to England, to have abortions. No idea on the numbers for illegal abortions...
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woman dies after doctors deny her a life-saving abortion - 14/11/2012 06:58:31 PM 1412 Views
this is so terribly sad. keeping abortions legal is important. *NM* - 14/11/2012 07:09:00 PM 290 Views
Maybe this is more a testament to the quality of care in that hospital than an arguemnt for abortion *NM* - 15/11/2012 01:49:00 PM 309 Views
Can you elaborate? - 16/11/2012 04:07:48 PM 601 Views
Do you have access to her medical charts? - 16/11/2012 08:44:45 PM 612 Views
Statistically speaking... - 15/11/2012 07:03:51 PM 630 Views
Where did you get your statistics from? - 15/11/2012 09:19:29 PM 874 Views
Psst. - 15/11/2012 09:43:35 PM 658 Views
I'm pretty sure his 0.3% figure comes from - 15/11/2012 10:01:29 PM 579 Views
That would certainly change the difference between the numbers. - 15/11/2012 10:07:42 PM 632 Views
Re: Statistically speaking... - 15/11/2012 10:56:35 PM 622 Views
Where's the due process? - 15/11/2012 11:35:39 PM 687 Views
First, prove that the fetus is a "ONE". - 16/11/2012 04:14:34 PM 573 Views
That argument is specious - 16/11/2012 08:36:07 PM 583 Views
But you cannot call another living person an "environment." Only for parasites. - 16/11/2012 10:16:18 PM 550 Views
Yes I can, look up the word environment - 17/11/2012 11:49:55 AM 685 Views
No, I do not accept the risk of pregnancy. - 20/11/2012 01:41:07 PM 570 Views
Re: No, I do not accept the risk of pregnancy. - 20/11/2012 03:59:19 PM 569 Views
well said - 20/11/2012 05:27:11 PM 731 Views
I agree, but it does not matter. - 16/11/2012 08:26:17 PM 558 Views
Win some, lose some - 15/11/2012 11:29:32 PM 722 Views
In other words, if you don't want to die, become a lesbian. *NM* - 16/11/2012 04:16:23 PM 305 Views
stop calling women whores - 16/11/2012 04:55:49 PM 718 Views
Some facts for you - from the article Stephen linked in his reply above, and from general knowledge. - 16/11/2012 09:38:32 PM 697 Views
That is the most rational argument put forth thus far, HOWEVER - 17/11/2012 07:06:58 PM 618 Views
Wow. - 17/11/2012 07:28:23 PM 648 Views
The difference between Ireland and the UK is about 0.006% - 17/11/2012 08:31:45 PM 676 Views
It illustrates that the "life of the mother" argument is rare to the point of irrelevance. *NM* - 18/11/2012 07:45:36 PM 298 Views
And yet this case makes it irrefutably relevant. *NM* - 20/11/2012 05:18:23 PM 281 Views
No, it really does not. Because the situation is so rare as to not be worth even discussing... - 21/11/2012 03:24:01 PM 576 Views
In your opinion - in mine, and I suspect others here, it is not. - 22/11/2012 12:03:20 AM 631 Views

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