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A bit of an aside, but I was reading that the gun used in the attack can be bought in Canada too. Nate Send a noteboard - 21/12/2012 06:14:01 PM
Though in Canada, there are some differences. For one, the gun is modified to only accept a five-bullet clip instead of a thirty-bullet clip, so you have to reload after every five bullets, which would not be a huge problem for a mass murderer but would slightly slow such a person down and force him to carry more clips.

In addition, a person needs to pass a licensing test in order to buy one, and there's a sixty day waiting period after purchase before you get the gun.

I also read (and this is the area I know least about, not being all that familiar with guns) that the Canadian version is much more difficult to modify into an automatic weapon. Am I right in understanding that it's not all that difficult for someone to modify the standard version of such a semiautomatic into an automatic if one wants to? I'm really not all the way clear on that point, but apparently it's a lot harder to do with the Canadian version.

However, I think you're right that quite a few people don't understand the difference between a semiautomatic and an automatic. They see the word "semiautomatic" and assume it's something more dangerous than your standard gun.

Also, I think one possible argument against your hunting rifle point is that hunting rifles are, at least as far as I know, at least slower. You can still easily kill someone with them, but maybe the idea is that you can't kill quite so many quite so quickly? If the argument is about limiting the ability to use easily obtainable guns to cause mass murder without getting rid of all guns, then there's a case to be made for restricting high-capacity, quick-firing weapons without necessarily restricting lower-capacity, slower-firing weapons such as hunting rifles.

But it's very possible that I could be wrong about anything I just said, because guns really aren't in my area of knowledge.
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When guns are a big national issue, how do reporters & pundits not know facts about them? - 21/12/2012 05:33:14 PM 1997 Views
You don't hunt by walking into a classroom and shooting 20 deer - 21/12/2012 05:56:16 PM 1393 Views
You're actually not right on that one - 21/12/2012 07:49:53 PM 1361 Views
That wasn't the point I was making - 21/12/2012 09:49:40 PM 1282 Views
You should probably clarify it then - 21/12/2012 10:47:26 PM 1463 Views
His post was perfectly clear. Yours seemed like a response to an entirely different post. - 21/12/2012 10:53:39 PM 1639 Views
Explain that remark, it is not obvious to me *NM* - 21/12/2012 11:00:10 PM 763 Views
I think - 21/12/2012 11:13:34 PM 1285 Views
Thats' easy, there is simply no such thing as a 'hunting rifle' - 21/12/2012 11:17:41 PM 1291 Views
I'd say the expert gunsmith - 21/12/2012 11:28:02 PM 1357 Views
I thought I was being perfectly clear. - 21/12/2012 10:57:35 PM 1308 Views
Re: I thought I was being perfectly clear. - 21/12/2012 11:25:04 PM 1319 Views
Oh I wasn't commenting on the standard of people here - 21/12/2012 11:29:36 PM 1316 Views
A bit of an aside, but I was reading that the gun used in the attack can be bought in Canada too. - 21/12/2012 06:14:01 PM 1314 Views
you're largely correct, which is why we need stronger laws on ownership not guns per se - 21/12/2012 09:39:14 PM 1257 Views
I can't think of a better reason than self defense - 21/12/2012 10:33:26 PM 1338 Views
He is right about Australia - 21/12/2012 10:46:27 PM 1259 Views
No kidding - 21/12/2012 10:59:28 PM 1261 Views
If you knew all that - 21/12/2012 11:02:38 PM 1322 Views
I think you are on the right track, but to the wrong destination; "lethal weapon" is redundant. - 21/12/2012 11:05:29 PM 1259 Views
My read is that the 2nd Amendment not only allows, but mandates, cop-killer bullets. - 22/12/2012 12:45:04 AM 1351 Views
Does the Second Amendment protect the rights of felons and the mentally incompetent to have guns? - 22/12/2012 02:35:16 AM 1511 Views
Some semi-autos are easily modified for full auto fire, making the distinction one w/o a difference. - 21/12/2012 10:53:59 PM 1355 Views
Correction: virtually all semi-automatics are easily convertable - 21/12/2012 11:23:35 PM 1296 Views
How many of the people I was complaining about would know that? - 22/12/2012 12:48:59 AM 1270 Views
Some, possibly? I am ever the optimist - 22/12/2012 12:58:36 AM 1222 Views
I have seen nothing on turning a semi-auto BAR into a fully automatic one. - 22/12/2012 01:11:12 AM 1249 Views
What's a BAR? In any event, link a diagram and I'll let you know - 22/12/2012 01:26:31 AM 1232 Views
Confusingly, there are two: The BAR you and I think of, and the "Browning BAR," a current semi-auto - 22/12/2012 01:07:30 PM 1476 Views
Department of Redundancy Department gets to name a lot of stuff, like "Milky Way Galaxy" - 22/12/2012 05:01:45 PM 1515 Views
It only bothers me when people who know better speak of "the Glieseian solar system." - 26/12/2012 05:33:34 PM 1365 Views
Both terms are pretty stuck now - 26/12/2012 10:48:38 PM 1458 Views
You realize that encourages rather than discourages my opposition to the usage, right? - 27/12/2012 01:23:15 AM 1200 Views
Well I can't say it surprises - 27/12/2012 04:29:06 AM 1176 Views
No one expects the Online Inquisition! - 27/12/2012 05:20:44 PM 1196 Views
I've enjoyed most reboots - 28/12/2012 01:06:05 AM 1144 Views
Yes the media is using terms incorrectly but the point still stands. - 22/12/2012 03:02:18 AM 1220 Views
Re: Yes the media is using terms incorrectly but the point still stands. - 22/12/2012 04:12:30 AM 1253 Views
umm... - 22/12/2012 12:41:31 PM 1167 Views
1997 North Hollywood Shootout - 22/12/2012 04:07:39 AM 1361 Views
Laws against murder failed to prevent that, too; clearly they are ineffective and should be repealed - 22/12/2012 06:02:24 AM 1406 Views
Such laws were never intended for prevention, they define actions that will be punished. *NM* - 23/12/2012 12:57:57 PM 752 Views
So do laws against getting a gun without screening, training and certification. - 23/12/2012 02:01:32 PM 1261 Views
Then CHANGE the Constitution, don't ignore it. *NM* - 26/12/2012 03:12:11 PM 686 Views
I am not suggesting either changing or ignoring the Constitution. - 26/12/2012 04:01:02 PM 1308 Views
Yes you are. - 26/12/2012 08:06:01 PM 1146 Views
Learn logic, and stop needlessly trying to teach me grammar. - 26/12/2012 08:55:25 PM 1318 Views
Lear to read, and I won't have to - 27/12/2012 04:28:59 PM 1374 Views
You are wrong. - 22/12/2012 12:14:40 PM 1251 Views
That explains much; I read somewhere Brits are averse to it. - 22/12/2012 01:17:15 PM 1238 Views
We're also averse to being wrong. - 22/12/2012 02:53:49 PM 1275 Views
So you say... - 22/12/2012 03:32:16 PM 1215 Views
guns r stpid *NM* - 23/12/2012 12:39:30 AM 881 Views
What bemuses me about this thing with Adam Lanza, is that his mother had 5 registered guns - 23/12/2012 07:10:26 AM 1271 Views
She was asleep with him in the house. - 23/12/2012 02:24:47 PM 1285 Views
LOOK, look, there is another one... - 26/12/2012 03:13:45 PM 1222 Views
I find the absolutist ant/pro-gun positions equally dangerous and absurd. - 26/12/2012 04:20:37 PM 1229 Views
So we should just *kinda* ignore the Constitution *this* time... But what about NEXT time... - 26/12/2012 08:08:12 PM 1229 Views
No, we should enact gun regulation the Constitution explicitly empowers. - 26/12/2012 09:02:12 PM 1235 Views
Which would be... NONE. *NM* - 27/12/2012 04:31:53 PM 719 Views
"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state...." - 28/12/2012 05:14:49 PM 1225 Views
*see previous grammar lesson* *NM* - 28/12/2012 10:31:43 PM 677 Views
The instant it becomes relevant, I shall. - 28/12/2012 11:45:01 PM 1387 Views
Your point being? - 27/12/2012 10:47:29 AM 1202 Views
As a father, I would rather kill my own child than have him kill 26 other people. - 27/12/2012 04:35:02 PM 1209 Views
Facts are irrelevant when FUD is the order of the day. - 24/12/2012 04:34:18 PM 1216 Views
It irritates me too. *NM* - 01/01/2013 01:55:05 PM 701 Views

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