so according to you we should just make life illegal since everyone is going to die from something..
moondog Send a noteboard - 23/12/2012 07:25:05 AM
hey, people die from falling off a ladder, we obviously need stronger ladder regulations. after all, the only purpose of ladders is to kill people in mass quantities. 
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the NRA shows it is an asylum overrun by lunatics
- 22/12/2012 04:40:26 PM
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I do not see why calling for armed cops at schools is an unreasonable response.
- 22/12/2012 04:53:06 PM
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I can think of two reasons off the top of my head
- 22/12/2012 05:38:19 PM
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If the schools that the children of our elected representatives attend are gaurded, so should mine.
- 26/12/2012 03:00:35 PM
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If someone is shooting at you having a gun to shoot back seems like a good idea
- 26/12/2012 06:10:07 PM
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The effectiveness issue aside
- 22/12/2012 06:13:30 PM
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Re: The effectiveness issue aside
- 22/12/2012 06:59:36 PM
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If you think it would solve the debate then probably
- 22/12/2012 07:09:42 PM
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Nothing will ever truly end the debate, but we can greatly reduce or end its justification.
- 22/12/2012 08:03:39 PM
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If it's shown to work
- 23/12/2012 12:25:38 AM
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Of the many school shootings in recent years, I am aware of none where armed cops were present.
- 23/12/2012 12:47:32 AM
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columbine had two armed guards on the day of the shooting. they were both immediately fired upon...
- 23/12/2012 12:49:30 AM
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I have never seen any mention of them among the injured or dead (or at all.)
- 23/12/2012 01:09:38 AM
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you should try harder
- 23/12/2012 01:15:34 AM
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"a motorcycle patrolman who was near the school writing a speeding ticket" is not stationed there.
- 23/12/2012 01:34:50 AM
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he still didn't stop the shooting, whether he was there before or after it started
- 23/12/2012 01:49:24 AM
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No kidding; how could he stop the shooting before it started if he was not there?
- 23/12/2012 02:16:59 AM
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A fuller account of Gardner
- 23/12/2012 10:27:24 AM
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Nice link.
- 23/12/2012 02:27:30 PM
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Re: Nice link.
- 23/12/2012 03:15:24 PM
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Inexplicably, Ft. Hood was a gun free zone (guess no one told the shooter.)
- 26/12/2012 06:12:42 PM
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Re: Nice link.
- 23/12/2012 04:21:27 PM
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Gardner:If you’re going to put a police officer in a school, make sure his focus stays on the school
- 26/12/2012 06:40:41 PM
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The children are what matter, not the school. Surely this isn't something you disagree on?
- 29/12/2012 02:15:12 PM
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As usual Moondog, you are missing a BUNCH of facts on this one (links inside)
- 26/12/2012 07:51:29 PM
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at last count, over 99,000 schools in the US
- 23/12/2012 12:45:30 AM
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What is public safety worth to you?
- 23/12/2012 12:54:04 AM
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it's not entirely a matter of cost, although that factors into it.
- 23/12/2012 01:01:50 AM
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There are many cases where armed cops ended mass shootings.
- 23/12/2012 01:28:25 AM
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there are none where an armed guard placed there *before* the shooting had any effect
- 23/12/2012 01:36:42 AM
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Kind of a Catch-22; if they PREVENT shootings, shootings can only occur in their absence.
- 23/12/2012 01:52:03 AM
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ok, here is my last word on the subject
- 23/12/2012 02:06:49 AM
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9 people injured vs. 20 people dead.
- 23/12/2012 02:34:00 AM
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it is still "more guns makes us safer" which has yet to prevent a single massacre in this country
- 23/12/2012 02:41:56 PM
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Care to prove that negative? The burden to do so is on you as the person who made the assertion.
- 26/12/2012 06:47:07 PM
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It doesn't have to be a full time gaurd standing looking dangerous.
- 26/12/2012 06:12:14 PM
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Re: the NRA shows it is an asylum overrun by lunatics
- 22/12/2012 06:36:32 PM
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I believe it is fairly common in junior and high schools today, but not elementary schools.
- 22/12/2012 07:12:32 PM
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This entire post is completely irrelevant.
- 22/12/2012 07:27:45 PM
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Those who want univeral prohibition/access are equally fringe minorities.
- 22/12/2012 08:18:00 PM
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there is no Left or Right on this issue, there is only Sane and Insane
- 23/12/2012 12:59:08 AM
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also: it's insulting to tell parents their kids would be alive if only more guns were around
- 23/12/2012 01:30:53 AM
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People die from all sort of causes
- 22/12/2012 07:27:53 PM
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Cars require training, certification and licensing, too; why should guns not?
- 22/12/2012 08:25:43 PM
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Do bombs require certification?
- 22/12/2012 09:21:25 PM
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No, they are pretty much illegal for the general public under all conditions.
- 22/12/2012 09:35:35 PM
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i say this with all due respect -- eat a bag of dicks
- 23/12/2012 01:04:08 AM
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That was pretty damn respectful under the circumstances.
- 23/12/2012 01:10:04 AM
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The lack of intellect displayed here is to be expected
- 23/12/2012 04:01:32 AM
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so according to you we should just make life illegal since everyone is going to die from something..
- 23/12/2012 07:25:05 AM
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Obviously you didn't put pay attention
- 23/12/2012 01:40:17 PM
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no, you said "fuck it because people die anyway". there is a big difference
- 23/12/2012 02:46:46 PM
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Dicks and stones
- 23/12/2012 03:54:25 AM
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cars and guns kill roughly the same number of people every year -- around 30,000 give or take
- 23/12/2012 01:02:44 AM
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But over half of gun deaths are suicide.....so cars are much more dangerous to society. *NM*
- 23/12/2012 05:35:45 AM
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Every year is iffy there, it dropped off the last two, was 40k-50k plus for cars since 1962
- 23/12/2012 11:55:50 AM
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except that cars are legislated to be safer every year, guns aren't.
- 23/12/2012 03:01:36 PM
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Guns are for killing, cars are for transport, cars aren't any safer now against use for homicide
- 23/12/2012 08:22:13 PM
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but if we are trying to minimize the number of deaths, then more MUST be done for gun laws
- 24/12/2012 03:33:31 AM
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More must be done to minimize, not necessarily with greater regulation
- 24/12/2012 04:27:04 AM
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Re: More must be done to minimize, not necessarily with greater regulation
- 25/12/2012 04:49:54 PM
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Re: More must be done to minimize, not necessarily with greater regulation
- 25/12/2012 08:41:53 PM
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Here is some interesting data.....knives are as dangerous as "non-handguns"
- 23/12/2012 05:45:08 AM
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I hope you don't mind me taking this opportunity to plug my new book, "How to Cook with Guns" *NM*
- 23/12/2012 03:04:06 PM
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there was a school mass stabbing in china the same day as sandy hook
- 23/12/2012 03:18:00 PM
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I am equally happy that the criminal was incompetant, but that does not diminish their lethality
- 27/12/2012 10:45:33 PM
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I'm not sure it's about guns.
- 23/12/2012 06:08:50 PM
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IMO it is about the media attention focuised on the perpetrator. Their name becomes history. *NM*
- 27/12/2012 10:47:15 PM
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