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Religions don't work that way. They are full of moral absolutes. There is no flexibility *NM* Dark Knight Send a noteboard - 11/02/2013 06:10:19 PM
I agree to most people in many non-latin Western Countries it is irrelevant, and I wish it was irrelevant to everyone.

But the catholic church is still prevalent in many countries and still wields real power. They could use that for some good, by promoting equal rights for women, or pushing birth control in Africa to help with the STD blight, as opposed to being the almost singular block which they are just now.

Whilst I may not like the Catholic church, that doesn't mean I wouldn't like them to at least try and do some good for once.
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So the Pope has resigned Wibble - 11/02/2013 01:01:59 PM 1234 Views
Re: So the Pope has resigned HyogaRott - 11/02/2013 02:29:13 PM 648 Views
As a catholic, I am surprised, but please by the Pope's decision..... Anonymous2000 - 12/02/2013 03:05:34 AM 601 Views
Re: As a catholic, I am surprised, but please by the Pope's decision..... HyogaRott - 12/02/2013 09:21:30 PM 553 Views
One mistake in my original post..... Anonymous2000 - 13/02/2013 01:27:48 AM 556 Views
Re: As a catholic, I am surprised, but please by the Pope's decision..... Cannoli - 13/02/2013 01:35:14 AM 520 Views
Re: As a catholic, I am surprised, but please by the Pope's decision..... HyogaRott - 13/02/2013 03:45:23 PM 594 Views
Luke or Paul? Isaac - 13/02/2013 04:36:27 PM 533 Views
That is what I get for only having decaf coffee this morning... HyogaRott - 13/02/2013 05:43:57 PM 601 Views
I'm gonna have to disagree with you on this point. Jeordam - 13/02/2013 06:36:03 PM 435 Views
Re: I'm gonna have to disagree with you on this point. HyogaRott - 14/02/2013 11:12:34 PM 549 Views
Hate to jump you again but are you sure you mean Timothy? Isaac - 14/02/2013 11:54:00 PM 570 Views
Yep, I ment Timothy HyogaRott - 15/02/2013 04:18:21 AM 541 Views
Re: Yep, I ment Timothy Isaac - 15/02/2013 11:03:16 AM 572 Views
If "the bible is still the bible," then what of Deborah, Huldah and Phoebe, to name but a few? Joel - 13/02/2013 06:17:44 PM 655 Views
Why wouldn't it still be devinely inspired? Jeordam - 13/02/2013 06:44:07 PM 582 Views
Um, because then God was lying when He inspired someone to write "this is not Gods commandment." Joel - 13/02/2013 07:42:15 PM 552 Views
You're missing a really key point Jeordam - 13/02/2013 09:13:32 PM 596 Views
You are using an epistle to say every word of all epistles is divinely inspired? Joel - 13/02/2013 10:00:36 PM 725 Views
Let us take it full circle: The ecclesiastical authority of women Joel - 13/02/2013 10:21:26 PM 627 Views
Shouldn't you be able to answer this question from what you just wrote? Jeordam - 13/02/2013 11:02:28 PM 615 Views
Oh, certainly; I just felt like I was dragging you with me kicking and screaming. Joel - 14/02/2013 01:05:14 AM 585 Views
So Roman Catholic priests CAN marry, under tortuous conditions? Interesting.... Joel - 13/02/2013 03:40:48 PM 462 Views
A priest can't marry, but a married person can become a priest. HyogaRott - 13/02/2013 03:51:02 PM 514 Views
Heh, yeah, I guess I slightly mischaracterized what you were saying. Joel - 13/02/2013 05:54:05 PM 609 Views
There are a bunch of semi-Catholic denominations that allow priests to marry. Legolas - 13/02/2013 06:06:13 PM 528 Views
That makes more sense. Joel - 13/02/2013 06:23:36 PM 608 Views
Here's my chance. I'm putting in my application. Palatine - 11/02/2013 04:20:52 PM 707 Views
Unfortunately it matters due to the power he has... Wibble - 11/02/2013 04:42:25 PM 642 Views
Religions don't work that way. They are full of moral absolutes. There is no flexibility *NM* Dark Knight - 11/02/2013 06:10:19 PM 299 Views
Of course there is flexibility. The minute their money is threatened they flex like mad... *NM* Wibble - 11/02/2013 06:25:02 PM 316 Views
I'd imagine Unitarians and several other religions would beg to differ Isaac - 11/02/2013 09:28:39 PM 619 Views
Hah, are you kidding? beetnemesis - 13/02/2013 02:20:54 PM 697 Views
You would like the Roman Catholic Church to do some good FOR ONCE?! Joel - 11/02/2013 08:00:26 PM 715 Views
Well said. *NM* Ghavrel - 11/02/2013 10:55:18 PM 343 Views
You give them too much credit. Wibble - 11/02/2013 11:19:06 PM 665 Views
Put on blinders much? HyogaRott - 11/02/2013 11:50:01 PM 595 Views
I lol'd. *NM* Wibble - 11/02/2013 11:54:09 PM 310 Views
Grant me Chastity and Continence, But Not Yet! *NM* Roland00 - 12/02/2013 03:35:26 AM 259 Views
Chastity: A Virtue best found in others *NM* Isaac - 12/02/2013 12:53:26 PM 258 Views
and continence too, apparently..... *NM* moondog - 14/02/2013 12:18:22 AM 329 Views
Well said. Cannoli - 13/02/2013 01:43:47 AM 496 Views
You really don't know how human psychology works, do you? Legolas - 13/02/2013 06:28:23 PM 562 Views
..and you don't get that it isn't what people will/may do, but what they should. HyogaRott - 15/02/2013 04:22:26 AM 766 Views
It's not religion, it's HIV or no HIV. Legolas - 15/02/2013 10:45:52 PM 545 Views
it's not HIV or no HIV, it is about what people should do. HyogaRott - 16/02/2013 07:02:36 PM 589 Views
Of course they don't have to teach people how to use condoms. Legolas - 17/02/2013 10:46:38 AM 523 Views
You're showing some glaring bias and hostility here Isaac - 12/02/2013 01:58:17 PM 508 Views
No, you are giving them far too little. Joel - 13/02/2013 03:33:03 PM 520 Views
The catholic church is significantly growing in Africa and with Hispanics. *NM* Anonymous2000 - 12/02/2013 03:41:54 AM 380 Views
Oh, that. Palatine - 12/02/2013 03:04:42 PM 479 Views
That's such a load Cannoli - 13/02/2013 01:39:45 AM 572 Views
Oops, I meant to reply here - As a catholic.....my take. Anonymous2000 - 12/02/2013 03:39:42 AM 639 Views
I'd say the chances are about as good... Dragonsoul - 12/02/2013 03:48:29 PM 711 Views
So teh chances are excellent then! Good to know. Wibble - 12/02/2013 04:51:43 PM 570 Views
I doubt there's much of a chance of a real progressive. Stephen - 12/02/2013 06:38:14 PM 530 Views
IDK, two straight non-Italians? Will they put up with a 3rd? Has that even happened since Avignon? Cannoli - 13/02/2013 01:46:28 AM 600 Views
Who says Benedict/Ratzinger is straight? Roland00 - 13/02/2013 04:56:52 AM 516 Views
Don't think so, but the Italians will have to get used to it. Legolas - 13/02/2013 06:34:24 PM 520 Views
This will be a very interesting time. Dannymac - 13/02/2013 06:27:41 PM 636 Views
He's retiring into a monastery in the Vatican, as I understand it. Legolas - 13/02/2013 06:42:14 PM 631 Views
Now this would be interesting.... Jeordam - 13/02/2013 06:51:40 PM 602 Views
Right now I would settle for making up lost ground... Dannymac - 14/02/2013 05:02:38 AM 515 Views
Pope Bene-victed... Raserei - 19/02/2013 07:56:17 AM 750 Views
Hurrah, Ras. I love a good pun or three. *NM* Palatine - 19/02/2013 01:55:11 PM 239 Views
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