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Perhaps its time to try a little fact checking. heartbreak Send a noteboard - 04/04/2013 03:34:44 AM

Maybe a graph showing the number of millions in poverty from 1959 to 2011? From the US Census Bureau's own website?

It clearly shows that three times since the mid sixties has the poverty population reached the level that it was at during that time. It also shows that the poverty population has been steadily rising since early 2000. What was it that happened in 2000? And again in 2004? Clearly that must not be working either...

You can point the finger all you want but in the end, its just as obvious that everything that has been done previously has failed. So what's the solution? Do you even have anything to contribute or are you just an alarmist with a chip on your shoulder?

My personal feeling is that the best way to go is more education. Only through better education will people be able to get better jobs and help grow our economy. We need to keep technology growth here in the States, we need to make it so that its more beneficial for companies to pay higher salaries to stay here in the states because our labor force is smarter and works harder than any other. There was a time in this country where hard work and a good education was valued. It's downright pathetic when we deride the leader of our nation for going to a prestigious school. It's downright pathetic when we whine about investing in our children's future, which in turn is the future of the nation that we claim to love so much. It's just idiocracy.

US Census Bureau Poverty Population Chart 1959-2011
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Liberalism has officially failed - Poverty reaches 1960 levels - - 04/04/2013 12:33:15 AM 1290 Views
As has Conservatism. - 04/04/2013 12:37:23 AM 757 Views
I know it hurts.....but the truth about liberalism will set you free! - 04/04/2013 12:42:57 AM 884 Views
Have you ever tried to fish when really hungry? - 04/04/2013 06:32:17 AM 806 Views
HA! HA! In your dreams that's how liberalism works. How about..... - 04/04/2013 04:59:33 PM 746 Views
and lo, Jesus said unto the poor gathered to him: "begone freeloaders! the wealthy need more money" - 04/04/2013 06:43:32 PM 844 Views
Interestingly enough.... - 04/04/2013 09:20:06 PM 799 Views
Re: Interestingly enough.... - 04/04/2013 09:31:27 PM 821 Views
Well here is where theology gets fun.... - 04/04/2013 09:48:50 PM 858 Views
The entire post...as well as many of the sub-threads....prompts the question of: - 04/04/2013 09:39:16 PM 852 Views
it depends on what your definition of "succeed" is i guess.... - 04/04/2013 10:27:30 PM 904 Views
And that is certainly your opinion.... - 04/04/2013 10:54:08 PM 894 Views
Re: And that is certainly your opinion.... - 04/04/2013 11:57:34 PM 979 Views
Hmm good questions - 04/04/2013 10:29:45 PM 893 Views
you contradicted yourself - 04/04/2013 10:44:47 PM 793 Views
Re: you contradicted yourself - 04/04/2013 10:54:35 PM 898 Views
i think i understand where you're coming from.... - 05/04/2013 07:33:32 PM 873 Views
I see the problem - 04/04/2013 06:45:53 PM 818 Views
since you don't trust the gov't, what are you doing to help the poor survive? - 04/04/2013 12:58:49 AM 900 Views
A few serious answers, if you can handle them..... - 04/04/2013 04:15:32 AM 797 Views
Re: A few serious answers, if you can handle them..... - 04/04/2013 06:42:00 PM 934 Views
Perhaps its time to try a little fact checking. - 04/04/2013 03:34:44 AM 1068 Views
I'm happy you agree with me, liberalism has failed and it's time for something different. - 04/04/2013 03:47:17 AM 772 Views
Oh the cleverness of you. - 04/04/2013 03:52:07 AM 953 Views
Wow, I'm shocked. Yes, let's stick with the failed status quo. Good plan! - 04/04/2013 04:17:32 AM 734 Views
Who said anything about the status quo? I just said I didn't agree with your solution. *NM* - 04/04/2013 04:19:37 AM 486 Views
Then time to step up, what's your idea? - 04/04/2013 04:22:58 AM 734 Views
As you might say, "What do you expect, a free ride?" - 04/04/2013 11:45:02 AM 947 Views
How typicaly conservative! And no. - 04/04/2013 02:05:00 PM 758 Views
Agreed and this is how we will finance such a move - 04/04/2013 04:01:46 AM 864 Views
I'm glad you agree! - 04/04/2013 04:21:25 AM 797 Views
No, in Europe, liberalism is generally successful - 04/04/2013 06:15:34 AM 782 Views
Liberalism & Conservatism 'officially fail' about ever other year I've noticed, still around though *NM* - 04/04/2013 09:02:42 AM 383 Views
Yes. I wonder if there will ever be an age of fiscally responsible/conservative liberals. - 05/04/2013 03:41:09 AM 853 Views
I guess it depends on how you define the terms - 05/04/2013 08:52:25 AM 1015 Views
*nod* - 05/04/2013 01:30:47 PM 848 Views
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Off topic: are you gardening yet? - 05/04/2013 02:25:06 PM 691 Views
Initial stuff - 05/04/2013 03:21:25 PM 688 Views
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I didn't know they make LED grow lights! - 06/04/2013 12:18:25 AM 952 Views
It's a bit newer because of the price, that's been dropping - 06/04/2013 01:20:10 AM 851 Views
Re: Initial stuff - 05/04/2013 11:11:12 PM 939 Views
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Yes, the logical step is to go for Nordic style socialism. - 04/04/2013 03:19:17 PM 840 Views
well that and a tiny homogenous population funded by large oil reserves - 04/04/2013 06:57:51 PM 795 Views
Eh, you're describing norway. - 04/04/2013 08:11:25 PM 742 Views
The Economist (of all people) was singing the praises of the Nordic countries recently. - 04/04/2013 08:49:36 PM 806 Views
Hey, guess what? - 04/04/2013 08:55:59 PM 761 Views
Awesome. - 04/04/2013 09:22:13 PM 679 Views
Oh my gosh! - 04/04/2013 09:27:17 PM 700 Views
Yes! - 04/04/2013 09:33:45 PM 734 Views
Yay! - 04/04/2013 09:37:40 PM 782 Views
We're Maryland, actually, as I recall. - 04/04/2013 10:15:49 PM 724 Views
Eh survival of the fittest - 04/04/2013 06:18:52 PM 880 Views
Excuse me? - 04/04/2013 08:42:24 PM 787 Views
Cry me a river - 04/04/2013 08:55:40 PM 816 Views
Funny. - 04/04/2013 09:18:15 PM 793 Views
Re: Funny. - 04/04/2013 10:19:35 PM 797 Views
good for you for making it but you are so full of bullshit - 04/04/2013 10:38:45 PM 811 Views
Re: good for you for making it but you are so full of bullshit - 04/04/2013 10:49:14 PM 797 Views
Wow. - 04/04/2013 11:27:06 PM 805 Views
Re: Wow. - 05/04/2013 12:18:08 AM 926 Views
congrats on being part of the problem.... *NM* - 05/04/2013 04:48:58 AM 430 Views
It's pointless to argue with those who don't understand the psychology of generational poverty. *NM* - 05/04/2013 03:43:40 AM 401 Views
Clearly. *NM* - 05/04/2013 07:32:21 PM 369 Views
Oh the "it's nobody's fault excuse" - 05/04/2013 08:56:51 PM 761 Views
Get back to me when you know wtf you're talking about. *NM* - 05/04/2013 09:03:08 PM 400 Views
I'm back *NM* - 06/04/2013 01:40:47 AM 370 Views
You're over-generalizing a bit - 06/04/2013 01:49:02 AM 891 Views

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