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As you might say, "What do you expect, a free ride?" heartbreak Send a noteboard - 04/04/2013 11:45:02 AM

Anything that is valuable is going to have a cost. Otherwise what good is it?

Our current department of education has not been successful under either republicans or democrats but just slashing its funding isn't going to fix the problem either.

We need to figure out how to fund our public schools, pay our teachers a salary that makes it beneficial for them to teach, instead of relying on their love of teaching to keep them in the position.

We also need to support things like Khan Academy and Udacity.

This message last edited by heartbreak on 04/04/2013 at 12:05:08 PM
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Liberalism has officially failed - Poverty reaches 1960 levels - Anonymous2000 - 04/04/2013 12:33:15 AM 1071 Views
As has Conservatism. Dannymac - 04/04/2013 12:37:23 AM 548 Views
I know it hurts.....but the truth about liberalism will set you free! Anonymous2000 - 04/04/2013 12:42:57 AM 634 Views
That's a flawed analogy these days, since conservative policies are anti-education spending. Burr - 04/04/2013 01:24:22 AM 623 Views
Have you ever tried to fish when really hungry? Dannymac - 04/04/2013 06:32:17 AM 564 Views
HA! HA! In your dreams that's how liberalism works. How about..... Anonymous2000 - 04/04/2013 04:59:33 PM 518 Views
and lo, Jesus said unto the poor gathered to him: "begone freeloaders! the wealthy need more money" moondog - 04/04/2013 06:43:32 PM 539 Views
Interestingly enough.... Jeordam - 04/04/2013 09:20:06 PM 569 Views
Re: Interestingly enough.... nossy - 04/04/2013 09:31:27 PM 570 Views
Well here is where theology gets fun.... Jeordam - 04/04/2013 09:48:50 PM 633 Views
The entire post...as well as many of the sub-threads....prompts the question of: Jeordam - 04/04/2013 09:39:16 PM 627 Views
it depends on what your definition of "succeed" is i guess.... moondog - 04/04/2013 10:27:30 PM 667 Views
And that is certainly your opinion.... Jeordam - 04/04/2013 10:54:08 PM 682 Views
Re: And that is certainly your opinion.... moondog - 04/04/2013 11:57:34 PM 745 Views
Hmm good questions Nighthawk - 04/04/2013 10:29:45 PM 651 Views
you contradicted yourself moondog - 04/04/2013 10:44:47 PM 581 Views
Re: you contradicted yourself Nighthawk - 04/04/2013 10:54:35 PM 646 Views
i think i understand where you're coming from.... moondog - 05/04/2013 07:33:32 PM 612 Views
I see the problem random thoughts - 04/04/2013 06:45:53 PM 573 Views
since you don't trust the gov't, what are you doing to help the poor survive? moondog - 04/04/2013 12:58:49 AM 662 Views
A few serious answers, if you can handle them..... Anonymous2000 - 04/04/2013 04:15:32 AM 566 Views
Re: A few serious answers, if you can handle them..... moondog - 04/04/2013 06:42:00 PM 686 Views
Perhaps its time to try a little fact checking. heartbreak - 04/04/2013 03:34:44 AM 795 Views
I'm happy you agree with me, liberalism has failed and it's time for something different. Anonymous2000 - 04/04/2013 03:47:17 AM 546 Views
Oh the cleverness of you. heartbreak - 04/04/2013 03:52:07 AM 694 Views
Wow, I'm shocked. Yes, let's stick with the failed status quo. Good plan! Anonymous2000 - 04/04/2013 04:17:32 AM 500 Views
Who said anything about the status quo? I just said I didn't agree with your solution. *NM* heartbreak - 04/04/2013 04:19:37 AM 357 Views
Then time to step up, what's your idea? Anonymous2000 - 04/04/2013 04:22:58 AM 502 Views
As you might say, "What do you expect, a free ride?" heartbreak - 04/04/2013 11:45:02 AM 681 Views
How typicaly conservative! And no. Dannymac - 04/04/2013 02:05:00 PM 562 Views
Variaitons of this plan have been tried elsewhere with lesser or negligible resistance Isaac - 04/04/2013 03:31:22 PM 627 Views
Agreed and this is how we will finance such a move Roland00 - 04/04/2013 04:01:46 AM 614 Views
I'm glad you agree! Anonymous2000 - 04/04/2013 04:21:25 AM 581 Views
No, in Europe, liberalism is generally successful Sports_Gambler - 04/04/2013 06:15:34 AM 549 Views
Liberalism & Conservatism 'officially fail' about ever other year I've noticed, still around though *NM* Isaac - 04/04/2013 09:02:42 AM 274 Views
Yes. I wonder if there will ever be an age of fiscally responsible/conservative liberals. Avendesora - 05/04/2013 03:41:09 AM 607 Views
I guess it depends on how you define the terms Isaac - 05/04/2013 08:52:25 AM 758 Views
*nod* Avendesora - 05/04/2013 01:30:47 PM 630 Views
Re: *nod* Isaac - 05/04/2013 03:12:17 PM 527 Views
Off topic: are you gardening yet? Avendesora - 05/04/2013 02:25:06 PM 497 Views
Initial stuff Isaac - 05/04/2013 03:21:25 PM 462 Views
Re: Initial stuff moondog - 05/04/2013 07:10:57 PM 537 Views
Re: Initial stuff Avendesora - 05/04/2013 08:19:16 PM 581 Views
Re: Initial stuff Isaac - 05/04/2013 11:21:56 PM 584 Views
I didn't know they make LED grow lights! Avendesora - 06/04/2013 12:18:25 AM 728 Views
It's a bit newer because of the price, that's been dropping Isaac - 06/04/2013 01:20:10 AM 609 Views
Re: Initial stuff Isaac - 05/04/2013 11:11:12 PM 690 Views
Re: Initial stuff Avendesora - 05/04/2013 07:56:47 PM 590 Views
Re: Initial stuff Isaac - 06/04/2013 12:36:10 AM 725 Views
Re: Initial stuff Avendesora - 06/04/2013 02:01:59 AM 632 Views
Re: Initial stuff Isaac - 06/04/2013 03:19:39 AM 475 Views
Yes, the logical step is to go for Nordic style socialism. jh - 04/04/2013 03:19:17 PM 602 Views
well that and a tiny homogenous population funded by large oil reserves random thoughts - 04/04/2013 06:57:51 PM 568 Views
Eh, you're describing norway. jh - 04/04/2013 08:11:25 PM 523 Views
The Economist (of all people) was singing the praises of the Nordic countries recently. Legolas - 04/04/2013 08:49:36 PM 537 Views
Hey, guess what? nossy - 04/04/2013 08:55:59 PM 532 Views
Awesome. Legolas - 04/04/2013 09:22:13 PM 429 Views
Oh my gosh! nossy - 04/04/2013 09:27:17 PM 475 Views
Yes! Legolas - 04/04/2013 09:33:45 PM 513 Views
Yay! nossy - 04/04/2013 09:37:40 PM 531 Views
We're Maryland, actually, as I recall. Legolas - 04/04/2013 10:15:49 PM 508 Views
You need to vist Dallas or LA and tell me what qualifes for a large immigrant population random thoughts - 05/04/2013 03:23:13 AM 519 Views
Eh survival of the fittest Nighthawk - 04/04/2013 06:18:52 PM 611 Views
Excuse me? nossy - 04/04/2013 08:42:24 PM 557 Views
Cry me a river Nighthawk - 04/04/2013 08:55:40 PM 587 Views
Funny. nossy - 04/04/2013 09:18:15 PM 570 Views
Re: Funny. Nighthawk - 04/04/2013 10:19:35 PM 575 Views
good for you for making it but you are so full of bullshit moondog - 04/04/2013 10:38:45 PM 601 Views
Re: good for you for making it but you are so full of bullshit Nighthawk - 04/04/2013 10:49:14 PM 572 Views
Wow. nossy - 04/04/2013 11:27:06 PM 577 Views
Re: Wow. Nighthawk - 05/04/2013 12:18:08 AM 677 Views
congrats on being part of the problem.... *NM* moondog - 05/04/2013 04:48:58 AM 309 Views
It's pointless to argue with those who don't understand the psychology of generational poverty. *NM* Avendesora - 05/04/2013 03:43:40 AM 289 Views
Clearly. *NM* nossy - 05/04/2013 07:32:21 PM 267 Views
Oh the "it's nobody's fault excuse" Nighthawk - 05/04/2013 08:56:51 PM 542 Views
Get back to me when you know wtf you're talking about. *NM* Avendesora - 05/04/2013 09:03:08 PM 293 Views
I'm back *NM* Nighthawk - 06/04/2013 01:40:47 AM 263 Views
You're over-generalizing a bit Isaac - 06/04/2013 01:49:02 AM 653 Views
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