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As you might say, "What do you expect, a free ride?" heartbreak Send a noteboard - 04/04/2013 11:45:02 AM

Anything that is valuable is going to have a cost. Otherwise what good is it?

Our current department of education has not been successful under either republicans or democrats but just slashing its funding isn't going to fix the problem either.

We need to figure out how to fund our public schools, pay our teachers a salary that makes it beneficial for them to teach, instead of relying on their love of teaching to keep them in the position.

We also need to support things like Khan Academy and Udacity.

This message last edited by heartbreak on 04/04/2013 at 12:05:08 PM
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Liberalism has officially failed - Poverty reaches 1960 levels - Anonymous2000 - 04/04/2013 12:33:15 AM 1370 Views
As has Conservatism. Dannymac - 04/04/2013 12:37:23 AM 825 Views
I know it hurts.....but the truth about liberalism will set you free! Anonymous2000 - 04/04/2013 12:42:57 AM 946 Views
That's a flawed analogy these days, since conservative policies are anti-education spending. Burr - 04/04/2013 01:24:22 AM 960 Views
Have you ever tried to fish when really hungry? Dannymac - 04/04/2013 06:32:17 AM 880 Views
HA! HA! In your dreams that's how liberalism works. How about..... Anonymous2000 - 04/04/2013 04:59:33 PM 808 Views
and lo, Jesus said unto the poor gathered to him: "begone freeloaders! the wealthy need more money" moondog - 04/04/2013 06:43:32 PM 907 Views
Interestingly enough.... Jeordam - 04/04/2013 09:20:06 PM 901 Views
Re: Interestingly enough.... nossy - 04/04/2013 09:31:27 PM 887 Views
Well here is where theology gets fun.... Jeordam - 04/04/2013 09:48:50 PM 919 Views
The entire post...as well as many of the sub-threads....prompts the question of: Jeordam - 04/04/2013 09:39:16 PM 922 Views
it depends on what your definition of "succeed" is i guess.... moondog - 04/04/2013 10:27:30 PM 971 Views
And that is certainly your opinion.... Jeordam - 04/04/2013 10:54:08 PM 969 Views
Re: And that is certainly your opinion.... moondog - 04/04/2013 11:57:34 PM 1043 Views
Hmm good questions Nighthawk - 04/04/2013 10:29:45 PM 957 Views
you contradicted yourself moondog - 04/04/2013 10:44:47 PM 854 Views
Re: you contradicted yourself Nighthawk - 04/04/2013 10:54:35 PM 974 Views
i think i understand where you're coming from.... moondog - 05/04/2013 07:33:32 PM 942 Views
I see the problem random thoughts - 04/04/2013 06:45:53 PM 894 Views
since you don't trust the gov't, what are you doing to help the poor survive? moondog - 04/04/2013 12:58:49 AM 968 Views
A few serious answers, if you can handle them..... Anonymous2000 - 04/04/2013 04:15:32 AM 869 Views
Re: A few serious answers, if you can handle them..... moondog - 04/04/2013 06:42:00 PM 1006 Views
Perhaps its time to try a little fact checking. heartbreak - 04/04/2013 03:34:44 AM 1143 Views
I'm happy you agree with me, liberalism has failed and it's time for something different. Anonymous2000 - 04/04/2013 03:47:17 AM 842 Views
Oh the cleverness of you. heartbreak - 04/04/2013 03:52:07 AM 1027 Views
Wow, I'm shocked. Yes, let's stick with the failed status quo. Good plan! Anonymous2000 - 04/04/2013 04:17:32 AM 793 Views
Who said anything about the status quo? I just said I didn't agree with your solution. *NM* heartbreak - 04/04/2013 04:19:37 AM 510 Views
Then time to step up, what's your idea? Anonymous2000 - 04/04/2013 04:22:58 AM 789 Views
As you might say, "What do you expect, a free ride?" heartbreak - 04/04/2013 11:45:02 AM 1038 Views
How typicaly conservative! And no. Dannymac - 04/04/2013 02:05:00 PM 835 Views
Variaitons of this plan have been tried elsewhere with lesser or negligible resistance Isaac - 04/04/2013 03:31:22 PM 929 Views
Agreed and this is how we will finance such a move Roland00 - 04/04/2013 04:01:46 AM 930 Views
I'm glad you agree! Anonymous2000 - 04/04/2013 04:21:25 AM 857 Views
No, in Europe, liberalism is generally successful Sports_Gambler - 04/04/2013 06:15:34 AM 853 Views
Liberalism & Conservatism 'officially fail' about ever other year I've noticed, still around though *NM* Isaac - 04/04/2013 09:02:42 AM 416 Views
Yes. I wonder if there will ever be an age of fiscally responsible/conservative liberals. Avendesora - 05/04/2013 03:41:09 AM 918 Views
I guess it depends on how you define the terms Isaac - 05/04/2013 08:52:25 AM 1084 Views
*nod* Avendesora - 05/04/2013 01:30:47 PM 910 Views
Re: *nod* Isaac - 05/04/2013 03:12:17 PM 847 Views
Off topic: are you gardening yet? Avendesora - 05/04/2013 02:25:06 PM 767 Views
Initial stuff Isaac - 05/04/2013 03:21:25 PM 750 Views
Re: Initial stuff moondog - 05/04/2013 07:10:57 PM 835 Views
Re: Initial stuff Avendesora - 05/04/2013 08:19:16 PM 891 Views
Re: Initial stuff Isaac - 05/04/2013 11:21:56 PM 886 Views
I didn't know they make LED grow lights! Avendesora - 06/04/2013 12:18:25 AM 1018 Views
It's a bit newer because of the price, that's been dropping Isaac - 06/04/2013 01:20:10 AM 923 Views
Re: Initial stuff Isaac - 05/04/2013 11:11:12 PM 1019 Views
Re: Initial stuff Avendesora - 05/04/2013 07:56:47 PM 919 Views
Re: Initial stuff Isaac - 06/04/2013 12:36:10 AM 1053 Views
Re: Initial stuff Avendesora - 06/04/2013 02:01:59 AM 956 Views
Re: Initial stuff Isaac - 06/04/2013 03:19:39 AM 809 Views
Yes, the logical step is to go for Nordic style socialism. jh - 04/04/2013 03:19:17 PM 912 Views
well that and a tiny homogenous population funded by large oil reserves random thoughts - 04/04/2013 06:57:51 PM 858 Views
Eh, you're describing norway. jh - 04/04/2013 08:11:25 PM 815 Views
The Economist (of all people) was singing the praises of the Nordic countries recently. Legolas - 04/04/2013 08:49:36 PM 879 Views
Hey, guess what? nossy - 04/04/2013 08:55:59 PM 821 Views
Awesome. Legolas - 04/04/2013 09:22:13 PM 749 Views
Oh my gosh! nossy - 04/04/2013 09:27:17 PM 765 Views
Yes! Legolas - 04/04/2013 09:33:45 PM 800 Views
Yay! nossy - 04/04/2013 09:37:40 PM 862 Views
We're Maryland, actually, as I recall. Legolas - 04/04/2013 10:15:49 PM 801 Views
You need to vist Dallas or LA and tell me what qualifes for a large immigrant population random thoughts - 05/04/2013 03:23:13 AM 816 Views
Eh survival of the fittest Nighthawk - 04/04/2013 06:18:52 PM 941 Views
Excuse me? nossy - 04/04/2013 08:42:24 PM 848 Views
Cry me a river Nighthawk - 04/04/2013 08:55:40 PM 881 Views
Funny. nossy - 04/04/2013 09:18:15 PM 870 Views
Re: Funny. Nighthawk - 04/04/2013 10:19:35 PM 874 Views
good for you for making it but you are so full of bullshit moondog - 04/04/2013 10:38:45 PM 881 Views
Re: good for you for making it but you are so full of bullshit Nighthawk - 04/04/2013 10:49:14 PM 895 Views
Wow. nossy - 04/04/2013 11:27:06 PM 865 Views
Re: Wow. Nighthawk - 05/04/2013 12:18:08 AM 993 Views
congrats on being part of the problem.... *NM* moondog - 05/04/2013 04:48:58 AM 475 Views
It's pointless to argue with those who don't understand the psychology of generational poverty. *NM* Avendesora - 05/04/2013 03:43:40 AM 427 Views
Clearly. *NM* nossy - 05/04/2013 07:32:21 PM 393 Views
Oh the "it's nobody's fault excuse" Nighthawk - 05/04/2013 08:56:51 PM 821 Views
Get back to me when you know wtf you're talking about. *NM* Avendesora - 05/04/2013 09:03:08 PM 425 Views
I'm back *NM* Nighthawk - 06/04/2013 01:40:47 AM 397 Views
You're over-generalizing a bit Isaac - 06/04/2013 01:49:02 AM 958 Views
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