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Well here is where theology gets fun.... Jeordam Send a noteboard - 04/04/2013 09:48:50 PM

The entire Bible is the Word of God....so whether Jesus specifically said it or not is not relevant. It is interesting to note that Jesus (and the rest of the Bible) is not a big fan of abusing/neglecting children. Yet we as a society are totally cool with it. The Bible is very clear about sexual sins, yet we as a society asked to be unashamed of it. The Bible is very very clear that the only path to God is through Jesus, yet we as a society dare not say that.

And most relevant to this thread, the Bible is very clear that it is the church's job to care for the poor. It is the Christian who is to decide to do that...to love their neighbor as themself...to care for the widow, orphan, or the alien in their land. It is the Christian's job to have compassion on the poor...to feed them, clothe them, and/or visit them in jail. And in caring for that person, to share with them the message of Salvation that is found in Jesus alone.

The government is not equipped (nor is it allowed) to minister (minister as defined as care for the poor's material needs & share with them the message of Salvation) to the poor. And I think herein is the problem...the aspect of forced charity. I have no problem helping those in need, but I resent being forced to do so.

~Jeordam

ex-Admin at wotmania (all things wot & art galleries)
Saving the Princess, Humanity, or the World-Entire since 1985
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Liberalism has officially failed - Poverty reaches 1960 levels - - 04/04/2013 12:33:15 AM 1196 Views
As has Conservatism. - 04/04/2013 12:37:23 AM 698 Views
I know it hurts.....but the truth about liberalism will set you free! - 04/04/2013 12:42:57 AM 802 Views
Have you ever tried to fish when really hungry? - 04/04/2013 06:32:17 AM 725 Views
HA! HA! In your dreams that's how liberalism works. How about..... - 04/04/2013 04:59:33 PM 662 Views
and lo, Jesus said unto the poor gathered to him: "begone freeloaders! the wealthy need more money" - 04/04/2013 06:43:32 PM 749 Views
Interestingly enough.... - 04/04/2013 09:20:06 PM 707 Views
Re: Interestingly enough.... - 04/04/2013 09:31:27 PM 727 Views
Well here is where theology gets fun.... - 04/04/2013 09:48:50 PM 770 Views
The entire post...as well as many of the sub-threads....prompts the question of: - 04/04/2013 09:39:16 PM 771 Views
it depends on what your definition of "succeed" is i guess.... - 04/04/2013 10:27:30 PM 822 Views
And that is certainly your opinion.... - 04/04/2013 10:54:08 PM 816 Views
Re: And that is certainly your opinion.... - 04/04/2013 11:57:34 PM 889 Views
Hmm good questions - 04/04/2013 10:29:45 PM 804 Views
you contradicted yourself - 04/04/2013 10:44:47 PM 724 Views
Re: you contradicted yourself - 04/04/2013 10:54:35 PM 793 Views
i think i understand where you're coming from.... - 05/04/2013 07:33:32 PM 773 Views
I see the problem - 04/04/2013 06:45:53 PM 726 Views
since you don't trust the gov't, what are you doing to help the poor survive? - 04/04/2013 12:58:49 AM 799 Views
A few serious answers, if you can handle them..... - 04/04/2013 04:15:32 AM 700 Views
Re: A few serious answers, if you can handle them..... - 04/04/2013 06:42:00 PM 825 Views
Perhaps its time to try a little fact checking. - 04/04/2013 03:34:44 AM 972 Views
I'm happy you agree with me, liberalism has failed and it's time for something different. - 04/04/2013 03:47:17 AM 687 Views
Oh the cleverness of you. - 04/04/2013 03:52:07 AM 851 Views
Wow, I'm shocked. Yes, let's stick with the failed status quo. Good plan! - 04/04/2013 04:17:32 AM 644 Views
Who said anything about the status quo? I just said I didn't agree with your solution. *NM* - 04/04/2013 04:19:37 AM 433 Views
Then time to step up, what's your idea? - 04/04/2013 04:22:58 AM 643 Views
As you might say, "What do you expect, a free ride?" - 04/04/2013 11:45:02 AM 866 Views
How typicaly conservative! And no. - 04/04/2013 02:05:00 PM 685 Views
Agreed and this is how we will finance such a move - 04/04/2013 04:01:46 AM 762 Views
I'm glad you agree! - 04/04/2013 04:21:25 AM 717 Views
No, in Europe, liberalism is generally successful - 04/04/2013 06:15:34 AM 703 Views
Liberalism & Conservatism 'officially fail' about ever other year I've noticed, still around though *NM* - 04/04/2013 09:02:42 AM 336 Views
Yes. I wonder if there will ever be an age of fiscally responsible/conservative liberals. - 05/04/2013 03:41:09 AM 768 Views
I guess it depends on how you define the terms - 05/04/2013 08:52:25 AM 916 Views
*nod* - 05/04/2013 01:30:47 PM 769 Views
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Off topic: are you gardening yet? - 05/04/2013 02:25:06 PM 621 Views
Initial stuff - 05/04/2013 03:21:25 PM 612 Views
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I didn't know they make LED grow lights! - 06/04/2013 12:18:25 AM 880 Views
It's a bit newer because of the price, that's been dropping - 06/04/2013 01:20:10 AM 751 Views
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Yes, the logical step is to go for Nordic style socialism. - 04/04/2013 03:19:17 PM 750 Views
well that and a tiny homogenous population funded by large oil reserves - 04/04/2013 06:57:51 PM 708 Views
Eh, you're describing norway. - 04/04/2013 08:11:25 PM 673 Views
The Economist (of all people) was singing the praises of the Nordic countries recently. - 04/04/2013 08:49:36 PM 726 Views
Hey, guess what? - 04/04/2013 08:55:59 PM 681 Views
Awesome. - 04/04/2013 09:22:13 PM 597 Views
Oh my gosh! - 04/04/2013 09:27:17 PM 613 Views
Yes! - 04/04/2013 09:33:45 PM 650 Views
Yay! - 04/04/2013 09:37:40 PM 672 Views
We're Maryland, actually, as I recall. - 04/04/2013 10:15:49 PM 649 Views
Eh survival of the fittest - 04/04/2013 06:18:52 PM 765 Views
Excuse me? - 04/04/2013 08:42:24 PM 699 Views
Cry me a river - 04/04/2013 08:55:40 PM 723 Views
Funny. - 04/04/2013 09:18:15 PM 718 Views
Re: Funny. - 04/04/2013 10:19:35 PM 732 Views
good for you for making it but you are so full of bullshit - 04/04/2013 10:38:45 PM 735 Views
Re: good for you for making it but you are so full of bullshit - 04/04/2013 10:49:14 PM 716 Views
Wow. - 04/04/2013 11:27:06 PM 731 Views
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congrats on being part of the problem.... *NM* - 05/04/2013 04:48:58 AM 378 Views
It's pointless to argue with those who don't understand the psychology of generational poverty. *NM* - 05/04/2013 03:43:40 AM 357 Views
Clearly. *NM* - 05/04/2013 07:32:21 PM 322 Views
Oh the "it's nobody's fault excuse" - 05/04/2013 08:56:51 PM 691 Views
Get back to me when you know wtf you're talking about. *NM* - 05/04/2013 09:03:08 PM 356 Views
I'm back *NM* - 06/04/2013 01:40:47 AM 337 Views
You're over-generalizing a bit - 06/04/2013 01:49:02 AM 809 Views

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