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Wow. nossy Send a noteboard - 04/04/2013 11:27:06 PM

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You chose the wrong profession if you wanted to make money. It was something to do with landscaping right? You probably chose it because you love it. But if not struggling and not being poor was your goal, you would have chosen a better profession. You are very smart and very pretty, a very good combination to have. I know you could easily make money if that's what you wanted!

Um. Well, I appreciate the compliment, but you basically just told me I could manipulate people by using my looks. Why is that better than making less money in an honest way? Is it just about making what you can, regardless? Most Americans in my generation started out by being told they could be whatever they want, and that they should go for it. I like landscaping, but I have to now - I was on the other side of many school loans before I realized that it wasn't a magical world of wonders just because I had a degree. Again, I am NOT saying that people should never make changes or should never try something else - I'm just saying that you don't know how or why things happen, and there isn't some express ticket out - like being a pretty girl.
View original postMaybe you should read the plethora of studies that show attractive people get paid more and get more promotions. Go on, I'll wait.

Those people are probably willing to wiggle the bootie and/or throw around the smiles a little more often. I am not. In fact, I am the opposite. If I make something of myself, it is going to be by my talent.
View original postYes, actually, I do want a cookie. I'm on a diet and I've been jonesing for a cookie. People on foodstamps have made poor choices in life or they wouldn't be on foodstamps. The path to success begins with making smart choices. You have no room to complain if your choices led you to where you are. I would work 3 jobs before getting on fucking foodstamps.

You can work 3 jobs, presumably. What about the mother of three kids whose husband left her for the "pretty girl?" Does she deserve no help if she hits bottom and goes looking for it? Do her children deserve to suffer because of those "poor choices?" And again, is this rare?
View original postPeople take care of their children all the time, where did they get the money for that? And I have absolutely no sympathy for homeless people. They can't be redeemed. Ther are a blight on society.

And some people can take care of their kids by buying ramen noodles and clothes from walmart. Others have tens of thousands of dollars in hospital bills because of the handicapped individual they have given up their job to protect.

~Sigh~ You have no idea why any given individual is homeless. If we ... what? Started killing off people with mental illness, we'd be short a lot of people who turned out to be geniuses.


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View original postYes, anybody can do it! That's the point! But when know they have a safety net, they don't try so hard.

That is not true. Why did you try so hard? Why did I? What were we thinking about the safety net at that point?
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Liberalism has officially failed - Poverty reaches 1960 levels - Anonymous2000 - 04/04/2013 12:33:15 AM 1273 Views
As has Conservatism. Dannymac - 04/04/2013 12:37:23 AM 738 Views
I know it hurts.....but the truth about liberalism will set you free! Anonymous2000 - 04/04/2013 12:42:57 AM 866 Views
That's a flawed analogy these days, since conservative policies are anti-education spending. Burr - 04/04/2013 01:24:22 AM 867 Views
Have you ever tried to fish when really hungry? Dannymac - 04/04/2013 06:32:17 AM 785 Views
HA! HA! In your dreams that's how liberalism works. How about..... Anonymous2000 - 04/04/2013 04:59:33 PM 727 Views
and lo, Jesus said unto the poor gathered to him: "begone freeloaders! the wealthy need more money" moondog - 04/04/2013 06:43:32 PM 827 Views
Interestingly enough.... Jeordam - 04/04/2013 09:20:06 PM 777 Views
Re: Interestingly enough.... nossy - 04/04/2013 09:31:27 PM 799 Views
Well here is where theology gets fun.... Jeordam - 04/04/2013 09:48:50 PM 835 Views
The entire post...as well as many of the sub-threads....prompts the question of: Jeordam - 04/04/2013 09:39:16 PM 839 Views
it depends on what your definition of "succeed" is i guess.... moondog - 04/04/2013 10:27:30 PM 885 Views
And that is certainly your opinion.... Jeordam - 04/04/2013 10:54:08 PM 876 Views
Re: And that is certainly your opinion.... moondog - 04/04/2013 11:57:34 PM 960 Views
Hmm good questions Nighthawk - 04/04/2013 10:29:45 PM 874 Views
you contradicted yourself moondog - 04/04/2013 10:44:47 PM 770 Views
Re: you contradicted yourself Nighthawk - 04/04/2013 10:54:35 PM 875 Views
i think i understand where you're coming from.... moondog - 05/04/2013 07:33:32 PM 854 Views
I see the problem random thoughts - 04/04/2013 06:45:53 PM 798 Views
since you don't trust the gov't, what are you doing to help the poor survive? moondog - 04/04/2013 12:58:49 AM 883 Views
A few serious answers, if you can handle them..... Anonymous2000 - 04/04/2013 04:15:32 AM 774 Views
Re: A few serious answers, if you can handle them..... moondog - 04/04/2013 06:42:00 PM 917 Views
Perhaps its time to try a little fact checking. heartbreak - 04/04/2013 03:34:44 AM 1054 Views
I'm happy you agree with me, liberalism has failed and it's time for something different. Anonymous2000 - 04/04/2013 03:47:17 AM 751 Views
Oh the cleverness of you. heartbreak - 04/04/2013 03:52:07 AM 932 Views
Wow, I'm shocked. Yes, let's stick with the failed status quo. Good plan! Anonymous2000 - 04/04/2013 04:17:32 AM 711 Views
Who said anything about the status quo? I just said I didn't agree with your solution. *NM* heartbreak - 04/04/2013 04:19:37 AM 474 Views
Then time to step up, what's your idea? Anonymous2000 - 04/04/2013 04:22:58 AM 711 Views
As you might say, "What do you expect, a free ride?" heartbreak - 04/04/2013 11:45:02 AM 927 Views
How typicaly conservative! And no. Dannymac - 04/04/2013 02:05:00 PM 742 Views
Variaitons of this plan have been tried elsewhere with lesser or negligible resistance Isaac - 04/04/2013 03:31:22 PM 844 Views
Agreed and this is how we will finance such a move Roland00 - 04/04/2013 04:01:46 AM 845 Views
I'm glad you agree! Anonymous2000 - 04/04/2013 04:21:25 AM 780 Views
No, in Europe, liberalism is generally successful Sports_Gambler - 04/04/2013 06:15:34 AM 765 Views
Liberalism & Conservatism 'officially fail' about ever other year I've noticed, still around though *NM* Isaac - 04/04/2013 09:02:42 AM 375 Views
Yes. I wonder if there will ever be an age of fiscally responsible/conservative liberals. Avendesora - 05/04/2013 03:41:09 AM 831 Views
I guess it depends on how you define the terms Isaac - 05/04/2013 08:52:25 AM 991 Views
*nod* Avendesora - 05/04/2013 01:30:47 PM 832 Views
Re: *nod* Isaac - 05/04/2013 03:12:17 PM 753 Views
Off topic: are you gardening yet? Avendesora - 05/04/2013 02:25:06 PM 677 Views
Initial stuff Isaac - 05/04/2013 03:21:25 PM 670 Views
Re: Initial stuff moondog - 05/04/2013 07:10:57 PM 740 Views
Re: Initial stuff Avendesora - 05/04/2013 08:19:16 PM 806 Views
Re: Initial stuff Isaac - 05/04/2013 11:21:56 PM 808 Views
I didn't know they make LED grow lights! Avendesora - 06/04/2013 12:18:25 AM 933 Views
It's a bit newer because of the price, that's been dropping Isaac - 06/04/2013 01:20:10 AM 830 Views
Re: Initial stuff Isaac - 05/04/2013 11:11:12 PM 918 Views
Re: Initial stuff Avendesora - 05/04/2013 07:56:47 PM 822 Views
Re: Initial stuff Isaac - 06/04/2013 12:36:10 AM 959 Views
Re: Initial stuff Avendesora - 06/04/2013 02:01:59 AM 867 Views
Re: Initial stuff Isaac - 06/04/2013 03:19:39 AM 704 Views
Yes, the logical step is to go for Nordic style socialism. jh - 04/04/2013 03:19:17 PM 824 Views
well that and a tiny homogenous population funded by large oil reserves random thoughts - 04/04/2013 06:57:51 PM 777 Views
Eh, you're describing norway. jh - 04/04/2013 08:11:25 PM 725 Views
The Economist (of all people) was singing the praises of the Nordic countries recently. Legolas - 04/04/2013 08:49:36 PM 789 Views
Hey, guess what? nossy - 04/04/2013 08:55:59 PM 740 Views
Awesome. Legolas - 04/04/2013 09:22:13 PM 662 Views
Oh my gosh! nossy - 04/04/2013 09:27:17 PM 685 Views
Yes! Legolas - 04/04/2013 09:33:45 PM 718 Views
Yay! nossy - 04/04/2013 09:37:40 PM 762 Views
We're Maryland, actually, as I recall. Legolas - 04/04/2013 10:15:49 PM 707 Views
You need to vist Dallas or LA and tell me what qualifes for a large immigrant population random thoughts - 05/04/2013 03:23:13 AM 739 Views
Eh survival of the fittest Nighthawk - 04/04/2013 06:18:52 PM 859 Views
Excuse me? nossy - 04/04/2013 08:42:24 PM 765 Views
Cry me a river Nighthawk - 04/04/2013 08:55:40 PM 798 Views
Funny. nossy - 04/04/2013 09:18:15 PM 777 Views
Re: Funny. Nighthawk - 04/04/2013 10:19:35 PM 776 Views
good for you for making it but you are so full of bullshit moondog - 04/04/2013 10:38:45 PM 797 Views
Re: good for you for making it but you are so full of bullshit Nighthawk - 04/04/2013 10:49:14 PM 777 Views
Wow. nossy - 04/04/2013 11:27:06 PM 785 Views
Re: Wow. Nighthawk - 05/04/2013 12:18:08 AM 902 Views
congrats on being part of the problem.... *NM* moondog - 05/04/2013 04:48:58 AM 419 Views
It's pointless to argue with those who don't understand the psychology of generational poverty. *NM* Avendesora - 05/04/2013 03:43:40 AM 391 Views
Clearly. *NM* nossy - 05/04/2013 07:32:21 PM 362 Views
Oh the "it's nobody's fault excuse" Nighthawk - 05/04/2013 08:56:51 PM 743 Views
Get back to me when you know wtf you're talking about. *NM* Avendesora - 05/04/2013 09:03:08 PM 393 Views
I'm back *NM* Nighthawk - 06/04/2013 01:40:47 AM 363 Views
You're over-generalizing a bit Isaac - 06/04/2013 01:49:02 AM 863 Views
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