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Re: So abortion is OK to save a pregnant womans life then? Cannoli Send a noteboard - 14/08/2013 12:50:07 PM


And lethal force is NOT OK to protect property (since "life is of the highest value," and so trumps property)? Yeah, try again.

I would like to point out that two of the Ten Commandments cover protection of property and only one protects life.

It's more like "MY property is more important than YOUR life, Mr. Thief." Conservatism and Christianity are highly individualistic philosophies. Even the exhortation to love one another and give alms to the poor is more in the life of self-improvement than actually being invested in the fates of others. Your salvation is only and entirely about you and no one else. A happy ending for a Christian is going to heaven, regardless of whatever else happens to anyone else you love. Your parents, spouse and kids all being damned doesn't mean anything next to your own salvation. Such choices being strictly hypothetical of course, since there is no way to buy salvation at anyone else's expense, but at its core, Christianity is extremely individualistic, which is why it overlaps so much with conservatism.

Cannoli
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I don't understand many things about Conservatives but one thing baffles me more than most. callandor1000 - 12/08/2013 05:39:06 AM 1557 Views
You are missing something. Dannymac - 12/08/2013 06:01:27 AM 937 Views
Because guns would never be misused if we all had one. Joel - 12/08/2013 06:02:25 AM 887 Views
I think you're confusing "pro life" with "anti killing." Aemon - 12/08/2013 07:34:14 AM 1182 Views
*dingdingding*. We have a winner! in addition... Avendesora - 12/08/2013 12:11:06 PM 971 Views
Eseentially my position HyogaRott - 12/08/2013 12:26:19 PM 868 Views
So abortion is OK to save a pregnant womans life then? Joel - 13/08/2013 03:35:58 AM 1143 Views
It sounds like you have a very specific view of what each position constitutes. Aemon - 13/08/2013 05:20:29 AM 1103 Views
Just going by party platforms, candidate/officeholder statements and proposed/enacted law. Joel - 13/08/2013 07:58:49 AM 921 Views
Re: It sounds like you have a very specific view of what each position constitutes. Cannoli - 14/08/2013 01:17:09 PM 944 Views
For what it is worth, you and I are not so far apart on abortion. Joel - 14/08/2013 03:22:07 PM 1213 Views
Re: So abortion is OK to save a pregnant womans life then? Cannoli - 14/08/2013 12:50:07 PM 875 Views
"Love your brother as you love yourself" is about self-improvement? Joel - 14/08/2013 02:02:22 PM 1186 Views
I know right? ironclad - 12/08/2013 08:16:32 AM 1047 Views
Conversely, how can liberals be pro-abortion but anti-death penalty? Avendesora - 12/08/2013 12:28:24 PM 1040 Views
In my case, because of the areas certainty exists and those where it is impossible. Joel - 13/08/2013 04:14:15 AM 1058 Views
Well. You know where you stand. *NM* Avendesora - 13/08/2013 01:50:02 PM 492 Views
At any given moment, at least. Joel - 13/08/2013 07:01:44 PM 883 Views
Re: In my case, because of the areas certainty exists and those where it is impossible. Novo - 13/08/2013 02:01:51 PM 974 Views
That is a very good point, too, one that had never occurred to me. Joel - 13/08/2013 06:57:34 PM 1012 Views
I'm baffled you find it bizarre honestly Isaac - 12/08/2013 04:14:01 PM 920 Views
So abortion is OK to save a pregnant womans life? Prevent her maiming? A childs lifelong torment? Joel - 13/08/2013 05:00:06 AM 915 Views
Joel, I'm going to strongly suggest you don't try to discuss anything political with me Isaac - 13/08/2013 06:31:02 AM 898 Views
"...all of this operates on a principle that says that you do not take life without a good cause..." Joel - 13/08/2013 08:10:28 AM 1041 Views
You are still missing the point, but at least you're trying Isaac - 13/08/2013 06:48:34 PM 926 Views
Abortion is "not germane" to asking how one can reconcile opposing abortion while supporting guns? Joel - 14/08/2013 12:48:21 AM 887 Views
Discussing Supreme Court rulings on abortion in detail is not *NM* Isaac - 14/08/2013 05:08:06 AM 444 Views
Not in detail, just in both citing "good cause," yet interpreting it VERY differently. Joel - 14/08/2013 05:43:50 AM 875 Views
This is mostly a US Christian Conservative obsession...not conservatism in general. *NM* Wibble - 12/08/2013 04:39:15 PM 428 Views
Keep me, O Lord, from the hands of the wicked, preserve me from the violent man Tom - 13/08/2013 03:20:24 PM 959 Views
My biggest problem with that from a religious perspective is preempting the chance to repent. Joel - 14/08/2013 01:39:57 AM 1086 Views
*NM* everynametaken - 19/08/2013 04:12:14 PM 392 Views
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