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give a coherent reason for the shutdown and the label of economic terrorist will go away moondog Send a noteboard - 07/10/2013 08:11:27 PM

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It is a big deal but let's not get melodramatic here, we already had to put up with moondog's useless insane remarks on the subject we don't need another thread of wild hyper-partisan claims about how the GOP/Dems are all [insert over the top garbage, terrorists and communists seem the current favorites] bent on destroying the country.

glad to see you acknowledge it as a big deal. but as the saying goes: if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck...

or to paraphrase Jon Stewart's take on the matter: the NY Giants got beat by the Eagles 36-21 yesterday. but they aren't going around saying "give us 16 points or else we shut down the NFL".

your folks lost the last election where the issue of removing Obamacare should have been settled. not only that, but you've had the better part of four years to actually use the legislative process to try to make it into something else. you've squandered your chances to do something useful and now all you have left is extortion and coercion. i could throw sedition in there too since i'm sure impeachment proceedings against Obama will follow the debt ceiling showdown. so if you don't want comparisons to terrorists or other derogatory labels then republicans need to show they have actual ideas. otherwise you're just manufacturing fake outrage in order to get what you want and legislatively behaving like a 3 year old throwing a tantrum.

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Government "shutdown" my ass..... Anonymous2000 - 06/10/2013 06:48:02 PM 1629 Views
Why would your government shut down your ass? Yunalesca - 06/10/2013 08:03:57 PM 1123 Views
Actually, it is... Dannymac - 07/10/2013 04:12:30 AM 1058 Views
Must we do this again? Isaac - 07/10/2013 05:45:00 AM 1037 Views
A whole generation has voted DNC twice. Dannymac - 07/10/2013 04:18:25 PM 877 Views
It voted RNC twice right before that, then DNC twice before that, then RNC thrice before that Isaac - 07/10/2013 05:18:31 PM 904 Views
elections are a cyclical affair by nature. the gop won't always be the party of stupid.... *NM* moondog - 07/10/2013 08:02:44 PM 495 Views
Not to mention they've gerrymandered like there's no tomorrow. Legolas - 07/10/2013 05:49:23 PM 946 Views
I hope we do default. ranagrande - 07/10/2013 07:04:24 PM 942 Views
Uhm. Legolas - 07/10/2013 09:09:45 PM 804 Views
Well it has been 70 years since we had a World War Isaac - 07/10/2013 09:37:14 PM 1011 Views
You see in America we don't shoot stupid Roland00 - 08/10/2013 06:59:53 AM 854 Views
never going to happen Praziquantel - 08/10/2013 01:13:10 PM 1035 Views
When gerrymandering there is no tomorrow, just the current decade Isaac - 07/10/2013 07:29:39 PM 938 Views
I'm curious as to why you say "unpopular bill" here Larry - 08/10/2013 09:02:49 AM 953 Views
Force of habit or slip of tongue, "Unpopular set of laws" Isaac - 08/10/2013 03:05:18 PM 969 Views
Ha! Larry - 09/10/2013 08:37:25 AM 966 Views
Bad enough, no? Legolas - 08/10/2013 06:32:06 PM 790 Views
Certainly Isaac - 08/10/2013 08:23:34 PM 1045 Views
give a coherent reason for the shutdown and the label of economic terrorist will go away moondog - 07/10/2013 08:11:27 PM 1062 Views
Why should I try to discourage you from using a label that makes you look like a fanatic? Isaac - 07/10/2013 09:23:40 PM 938 Views
i guess i should have put the disclaimer you asked for so you would know to be offended, is that it? moondog - 07/10/2013 10:49:43 PM 931 Views
It's pretty fucking sad any of us think we need a reason to act civilly, courtesy is its own reward *NM* Isaac - 08/10/2013 07:50:00 AM 531 Views
So you mean I shouldn't call you "an uncle fucking horsefucker" then? Larry - 08/10/2013 09:04:06 AM 884 Views
That's correct Larry, that would be unproductive Isaac - 08/10/2013 04:04:39 PM 975 Views
Of course it would; I rarely use such words toward people who might be still involved in a convo Larry - 09/10/2013 08:39:22 AM 840 Views
Re: Of course it would; [...] Isaac - 09/10/2013 05:25:28 PM 904 Views
hey, i've given plenty of reasonable alternatives, i don't see why you can't compromise with me *NM* moondog - 08/10/2013 10:09:44 PM 455 Views
Compromises? You've called my party terrorists and made it clear it wasn't hyperbole in your eyes Isaac - 08/10/2013 10:23:05 PM 953 Views
read what you wrote, direct it at your party, and look up "satire" if you still don't get it..... *NM* moondog - 08/10/2013 10:43:31 PM 558 Views
It's always painful when people think they're being funny or clever rather than sullen Isaac - 08/10/2013 11:33:36 PM 899 Views
remember that time when the Dems shut down the government to stop the iraq war? oh wait.... moondog - 09/10/2013 12:42:53 AM 950 Views
Probably a bad analogy pick, many of the Dem-initiated shutdowns were over defense spending Isaac - 09/10/2013 01:11:38 AM 850 Views
ok, henceforth instead of terrorists i will use "tea-hadists". is that more to your liking? moondog - 09/10/2013 10:26:36 PM 1069 Views
No. Overdue, insincere, and half-assed attempts at marginal courtesy is not 'to my liking' Isaac - 09/10/2013 10:40:57 PM 917 Views
and here is the big picture, in a nutshell moondog - 10/10/2013 12:26:18 AM 994 Views
"Here's the big picture" remarks shouldn't start by complaining about your personal paycheck Isaac - 10/10/2013 12:37:34 AM 912 Views
i think 800,000 federal workers would disagree but YMMV moondog - 10/10/2013 12:44:29 AM 1163 Views
The GOP House already voted to give them back pay Isaac - 10/10/2013 01:21:27 AM 913 Views
the House is good at making empty gestures without actually addressing the causes moondog - 11/10/2013 05:17:34 PM 963 Views
How is agreeing to backpay an empty gesture? Isaac - 11/10/2013 05:37:58 PM 1284 Views
it's empty because the shutdown persists. end the shutdown and they won't need back pay moondog - 11/10/2013 11:02:20 PM 1000 Views
Make up your mind, you complained early that you weren't getting paid Isaac - 11/10/2013 11:21:57 PM 874 Views
Clever. Did you make that one up yourself? I like it, will have to remember that one... *NM* Legolas - 09/10/2013 11:31:22 PM 478 Views
i can't claim to have invented it, but use it as you wish *NM* moondog - 09/10/2013 11:34:39 PM 507 Views
I do remember the time when some Democrats were tarnished with that pejorative brush... Larry - 09/10/2013 08:48:50 AM 975 Views
Re: I do remember the time when some Democrats were tarnished with that pejorative brush... moondog - 09/10/2013 09:51:22 PM 972 Views
That schtick got old a long time ago. You need newer, better material. Larry - 10/10/2013 03:43:31 AM 894 Views
you'll be rid of me for good soon enough, don't worry about it moondog - 11/10/2013 05:10:00 PM 1094 Views
I couldn't care less either way. Just make stronger arguments. *NM* Larry - 11/10/2013 05:55:05 PM 501 Views
you do realize you would come out a loser in said anarchy don't you? random thoughts - 11/10/2013 03:56:24 AM 940 Views
You do realize that when I say "there are moments when I..." that it implies something else? Larry - 11/10/2013 08:22:26 AM 989 Views
the republicans won more elections now the democrats have shutdown the government random thoughts - 09/10/2013 06:37:31 PM 954 Views
to quote Jon Stewart: "if you're gonna shut it down, OWN IT! Don't fart and then point at the dog" *NM* moondog - 09/10/2013 09:37:28 PM 517 Views
I agree. So now Obama and the senate need to step up and own it. *NM* random thoughts - 10/10/2013 06:02:56 PM 410 Views
That's about it. MonCul - 09/10/2013 12:36:30 AM 772 Views
Also, I wish you wouldn't egg them on Isaac - 07/10/2013 05:46:20 AM 931 Views
While I agree with your sentiment, "Big Government" is not a cause. Palatine - 07/10/2013 03:34:40 PM 1125 Views
Wow. Been a long time since we had a thread like this. I like it! :-) *NM* everynametaken - 10/10/2013 03:55:50 AM 492 Views
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